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Carney & Wehofer Family
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Abt 964 - 1057 (~ 93 years)
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Name |
Gwaithfoed "Fawr" Ap CLODIEN [1] |
Suffix |
Of Powys |
Nickname |
Fawr |
Alt. Birth |
Abt 924 |
Alt. Birth |
Born |
Abt 964 |
Powys (Montgomeryshire), Cymru (Wales) [1] |
Gender |
Male |
Name |
Fawr |
_UID |
95DE331E741941C9A6C11ADD813998F2FDF5 |
Died |
1057 |
Person ID |
I10553 |
Carney Wehofer 2024 Genealogy |
Last Modified |
5 Feb 2012 |
Father |
Gwrydr Ap CARADOG, Of Powys, b. Abt 894, Powys (Montgomeryshire), Cymru (Wales) , d. Yes, date unknown |
Mother |
Morfydd Verch OWAIN, b. Abt 920, Wales, England , d. Yes, date unknown |
Family ID |
F6354 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
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Notes |
- Note: From the notes below there appears to be a difference of opinion about when Gwaithfoed lived. Harold died 1066 (of course), which fits with Gwaithfoed's death date of 1057. But Edgar lived from 943 to 975, so if he was contemporary with both, he lived a long and prosperous life, marrying both early and very late in life, which is how I portray him.
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All of the following information came from Jane Williams Flank, World Connect db=jwflank, rootsweb.com:
Gwaethfoed, Lord of Cardigan and Gwynfai (d 1057), lived in the time of Harold the Saxon; m. Morfydd, dau. of Ivor (or Ynyr), King of Gwent, and one of his heirs. [Annals and Antiquities of Wales II:208]
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Gwaethvoed was contemporary with Edgar, king of Saxons, and was, in conformity with the vassalage of those periods, summoned, with other Welsh chieftains, by Edgar, to meet him at Chester, to row him, in his royal barge, on the river Dee, in proof of his fealty. Gwaethvoed, in answer to his summons, said he could not row, and that he would not, if he could, except it were to save a person's life, whether king or vassal. Edgar sent a second and very imperious message, which Gwaethvoed did not seem at all to notice, until the messenger begged to know what reply he should deliver to the king; when Gwaethevoed, in the Welsh language, answered thus: 'Say to him, fear him who fears not death.: This stern reply, discovering at once to Edgar the fearless unbending character he had to deal with, he prudently changed his autocratic decree into a desire of mutual friendship, and going to Gwaethvoed, gave the chief his hand in pledge of his sincerity. Gwaethvoed married Morfydd, one of the daughters and co-heirs of Ivor, king or lord of Gwent. [Burke's Commoners III:387]
Sources:
Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales; Dr Thomas Nicholas {1875}, p. II:208.
Ancestors of Evelyn Wood Keeler; Josephine C Frost {1939}, p. 425
Note: Cites as references for Welsh lineages: Royal Families of England, Scotland, Wales: Volume I & 2; Genealogical Tables of the Sovereigns of the World; Maunder's Biographical Treasures; Universial Biography; etc.
The Mathew Mathes Family in America, I C VanDeventer {1929}, Page: 13.
History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland, John Burke {1834-1838}, III:387
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