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Malcolm 2Nd Earl Of ATHOLL

Malcolm 2Nd Earl Of ATHOLL[1]

Male Abt 1126 - Bef 1198  (~ 72 years)

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  • Name Malcolm 2Nd Earl Of ATHOLL  [2
    Born Abt 1126  Atholl, Perthshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    _UID EE086F90A47545F08F6A105807D60BBB4778 
    Died Bef Aug 1198  [3
    Person ID I11730  Carney Wehofer Feb 2024 Genealogy
    Last Modified 5 Feb 2012 

    Married Y  [4
    Family ID F13129  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Married 1st Wife Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Last Modified 29 Aug 2016 
    Family ID F5935  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Hextilda Of TYNEDALE,   b. Abt 1122, Tynedale, East Lothian, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married Aft 1179  2ND Husband, 2ND Wife Find all individuals with events at this location  [2, 4
    Last Modified 29 Aug 2016 
    Family ID F5936  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • Malcolm, 2nd Earl of Atholl; married 2nd Hextilda, daughter of Uchtred/Waltheof and widow of Richard Comyn, and died between 1186 and Aug 1198, leaving [Henry], apparently by his 1st wife. [Burke's Peerage]

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      The following post-em by Curt Hofemann, [email protected], adds more information:

      Malcolm, second Earl of Atholl was the son of Madach, but probably by a different wife from Margaret, Hakon's daughter, as Harald Maddadson was apparently her only son. In the Liber Vitae of the Cathedral of Durham, a record of the benefactors to that fane [sic] from its foundation, his name is inserted, by a writer of the thirteenth century, as 'Malcolmus, filius Madi, comes Atholdie.' The Norwegian writers imply that Earl Madach or Maddad survived until near 1152, and Malcolm appears in a charter by King David I to the monks of Deir, which must be granted before 1153, and he is there designed as 'Malmore d Athotla,' being ranked between Duncan, Earl of Fife, and Gillebride, Earl of Angus. He is styled 'Melcolmus Comes' in 1154, in a charter by King Malcolm IV to the monks of Dunfermline; and he is referred to as 'Comes de Athwotle,' in a charter granted in the year 1161-62 by Arnald, Bishop of St. Andrews. He also appears as a witness or a granter of various charters during the reign of King William the Lion, down to about the year 1189, the latest certain notice of him being in a charter, referred to below, which must have granted not earlier than 1182, and not later than 1189. The Earl may have survived beyond that year, though he was dead before 24 August 1198, when his son Henry is styled Earl of Atholl. Malcolm was twice married, but the name of his first wife has not been ascertained. His second wife was Hexilda, Hextilda, or Extilda, widow of Richard Comyn, the first of the name, who died soon after 1176, and she was Countess of Atholl in or after 1182... We learn from this Liber Vitae already cited, where she is styled 'filia Ucthredi,' and from a confirmation by her as Hextilda, Countess 'de Eththetela,' of a grant by her lord, Richar Comyn, in his life, though the date of her writ is uncertain. She was thus the same Hextilda, daughter of Uchtred (or Godrith), son of Waldeve of Tynedale, by Bethoc, daughter of King Donalbane, through whom in 1291, the Cumuns claimed the crown of Scotland. Both of his wives are referred to by Earl Malcolm in a charter by him between 1182 and 1189, granting to the monks of Dunfermiline, for the welfare of the souls of his wife, and the Kings his predecessors reposing there, the church of Moulin and certain lands on condition that he and his wife Extilda, when they died, shall be buried there. It is doubtful if Earl Malcolm, had any children by his second wife. But he had by his first wife:-

      1. Simon, named in the Liber Vitae.
      2. Henry, who succeeded him, but who may not have been the eldest son, as Simon is named before him in the Liber Vitae.
      3. Duncan, and
      4. Malcolm,
      are named in charters as brothers of Henry, Duncan also appearing in the Liber Vitae. Malise, brother of Earl of Atholl, appears was a witness to a charter by Earl Henry. The Liber Vitae gives as sisters of Henry: (1) Bethoc; (2) Cristina; and (3) Margaret. Bedoc apparently was marrried and had a son, whose name is written 'Kelehathonin.' Another sister, perhaps Christina or Margaret, seems to have married Thomas of Lundin, the 'Ostarius,' or Doorward, as in a charter (dated perhps in 1202) by Earl Henry, he refers to his nephew Colin, while Sir Colin of Lundyn appear at a later date as witness to a charter by Conan, son of Earl Henry, and he was younger brother of Alan the Durward, who held that office from 1233 to 1275. The Liber Vitae also names a 'Constatine' as nephew of Henry."

      From the footnotes:
      "The Liber Vitae...as printed by the Surtees Society, gives on p. 100 the entry as 'Malcolmus filius Mal...' a reading which has caused various writers, as Sir Noel Paton...and others to assume that Malcolm was the son of a Malcolm ... The present article was at first written to the same effect, but while examining, for another matter, a fine autotype of f. 60 of the Liber Vitae, kindly lent by Sir Archibald Hamilton Dunbar..., the writer discoverd that the original words were 'Malcolm filius Madi...' which appear clearly to prove tht Malcolm was the son as well as the successor of Madach, and thus to remove all chronological difficulties."

      "The order followed here is not that which may be deduced gramatically from the Liber Vitae, but it is the order which seems best supported by the charter evidence. The arrangement of the Liber Vitae is 'Malcolmsu filius Madi, comes Atholdie. Hextilda filius Utcthredi uxor eius. Simon filius eius. Henricus filius eius. Dunecanus frater eius. Bedoch soror eius. Kelehathonin filius eius. Cristina soror eius. Margereta soror eius. Constantinus nepos eius."

      Thus is explained why the SP does not follow the grammatical text. [Ref: Robert S. Baxter 10 Aug 2002 msg to Gen-Medieval citing: Scots Peerage-Ancient Earls of Atholl]

      Regards,
      Curt

  • Sources 
    1. [SAuth] Jim Carney, compiled by James H Carney [(E-ADDRESS), & MAILING ADDRESS FOR PRIVATE USE], Buderim, Queensland 4556 AUSTRALIA.

    2. [S845] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999, 121a-25 (Reliability: 3).

    3. [S289] Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles M o s l e y Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 26 May 2003., 2716 (Reliability: 3).

    4. [S289] Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles M o s l e y Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 26 May 2003., 2715 (Reliability: 3).