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Gwaithfoed "Fawr" Ap CLODIEN, Of Powys

Gwaithfoed "Fawr" Ap CLODIEN, Of Powys[1]

Male Abt 964 - 1057  (~ 93 years)

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  • Name Gwaithfoed "Fawr" Ap CLODIEN  [2
    Suffix Of Powys 
    Nickname Fawr 
    Alt. Birth Abt 924 
    Alt. Birth 
    Born Abt 964  Powys (Montgomeryshire), Cymru (Wales) Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Gender Male 
    Name Fawr 
    _UID 95DE331E741941C9A6C11ADD813998F2FDF5 
    Died 1057 
    Person ID I10553  Carney Wehofer Feb 2024 Genealogy
    Last Modified 5 Feb 2012 

    Father Gwrydr Ap CARADOG, Of Powys,   b. Abt 894, Powys (Montgomeryshire), Cymru (Wales) Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Mother Morfydd Verch OWAIN,   b. Abt 920, Wales, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Family ID F6354  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 1 Unknown First WIFE,   b. Abt 964, Wales, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Children 
     1. Neiniad Ap GWAETHFOED,   b. Abt 982, Wales, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
    Last Modified 29 Aug 2016 
    Family ID F5277  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Morfudd Verch YNYR,   b. Abt 990, Gwent, Monmouthshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown 
    Married 2ND Wife ? Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Gwilym Ap GWAITHFOED, Lord Of Gwynfai,   b. Abt 1010, Gwynfai, Cardiganshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
    Last Modified 29 Aug 2016 
    Family ID F5278  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • Note: From the notes below there appears to be a difference of opinion about when Gwaithfoed lived. Harold died 1066 (of course), which fits with Gwaithfoed's death date of 1057. But Edgar lived from 943 to 975, so if he was contemporary with both, he lived a long and prosperous life, marrying both early and very late in life, which is how I portray him.

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      All of the following information came from Jane Williams Flank, World Connect db=jwflank, rootsweb.com:

      Gwaethfoed, Lord of Cardigan and Gwynfai (d 1057), lived in the time of Harold the Saxon; m. Morfydd, dau. of Ivor (or Ynyr), King of Gwent, and one of his heirs. [Annals and Antiquities of Wales II:208]

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      Gwaethvoed was contemporary with Edgar, king of Saxons, and was, in conformity with the vassalage of those periods, summoned, with other Welsh chieftains, by Edgar, to meet him at Chester, to row him, in his royal barge, on the river Dee, in proof of his fealty. Gwaethvoed, in answer to his summons, said he could not row, and that he would not, if he could, except it were to save a person's life, whether king or vassal. Edgar sent a second and very imperious message, which Gwaethvoed did not seem at all to notice, until the messenger begged to know what reply he should deliver to the king; when Gwaethevoed, in the Welsh language, answered thus: 'Say to him, fear him who fears not death.: This stern reply, discovering at once to Edgar the fearless unbending character he had to deal with, he prudently changed his autocratic decree into a desire of mutual friendship, and going to Gwaethvoed, gave the chief his hand in pledge of his sincerity. Gwaethvoed married Morfydd, one of the daughters and co-heirs of Ivor, king or lord of Gwent. [Burke's Commoners III:387]

      Sources:

      Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales; Dr Thomas Nicholas {1875}, p. II:208.

      Ancestors of Evelyn Wood Keeler; Josephine C Frost {1939}, p. 425
      Note: Cites as references for Welsh lineages: Royal Families of England, Scotland, Wales: Volume I & 2; Genealogical Tables of the Sovereigns of the World; Maunder's Biographical Treasures; Universial Biography; etc.

      The Mathew Mathes Family in America, I C VanDeventer {1929}, Page: 13.

      History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland, John Burke {1834-1838}, III:387

  • Sources 
    1. [SAuth] Jim Carney, compiled by James H Carney [(E-ADDRESS), & MAILING ADDRESS FOR PRIVATE USE], Buderim, Queensland 4556 AUSTRALIA.

    2. [S39] jweber.ged.