Gwaithfoed "Fawr" Ap CLODIEN, Of Powys

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• Name: Fawr
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• Alt. Birth: Abt 924; Alt. Birth

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Note: From the notes below there appears to be a difference of opinion about when Gwaithfoed lived. Harold died 1066 (of course), which fits with Gwaithfoed's death date of 1057. But Edgar lived from 943 to 975, so if he was contemporary with both, he lived a long and prosperous life, marrying both early and very late in life, which is how I portray him.

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All of the following information came from Jane Williams Flank, World Connect db=jwflank, rootsweb.com:

Gwaethfoed, Lord of Cardigan and Gwynfai (d 1057), lived in the time of Harold the Saxon; m. Morfydd, dau. of Ivor (or Ynyr), King of Gwent, and one of his heirs. [Annals and Antiquities of Wales II:208]

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Gwaethvoed was contemporary with Edgar, king of Saxons, and was, in conformity with the vassalage of those periods, summoned, with other Welsh chieftains, by Edgar, to meet him at Chester, to row him, in his royal barge, on the river Dee, in proof of his fealty. Gwaethvoed, in answer to his summons, said he could not row, and that he would not, if he could, except it were to save a person's life, whether king or vassal. Edgar sent a second and very imperious message, which Gwaethvoed did not seem at all to notice, until the messenger begged to know what reply he should deliver to the king; when Gwaethevoed, in the Welsh language, answered thus: 'Say to him, fear him who fears not death.: This stern reply, discovering at once to Edgar the fearless unbending character he had to deal with, he prudently changed his autocratic decree into a desire of mutual friendship, and going to Gwaethvoed, gave the chief his hand in pledge of his sincerity. Gwaethvoed married Morfydd, one of the daughters and co-heirs of Ivor, king or lord of Gwent. [Burke's Commoners III:387]

Sources:

Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales; Dr Thomas Nicholas {1875}, p. II:208.

Ancestors of Evelyn Wood Keeler; Josephine C Frost {1939}, p. 425
Note: Cites as references for Welsh lineages: Royal Families of England, Scotland, Wales: Volume I & 2; Genealogical Tables of the Sovereigns of the World; Maunder's Biographical Treasures; Universial Biography; etc.

The Mathew Mathes Family in America, I C VanDeventer {1929}, Page: 13.

History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland, John Burke {1834-1838}, III:387

Family/Spouse: Unknown First WIFE. Unknown was born about 964 in Wales, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Neiniad Ap GWAETHFOED was born about 982 in Wales, England; and died.

Gwaithfoed married Morfudd Verch YNYR in 2ND Wife ?. Morfudd was born about 990 in Gwent, Monmouthshire, Wales; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Gwilym Ap GWAITHFOED, Lord Of Gwynfai was born about 1010 in Gwynfai, Cardiganshire, Wales; and died.

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Note: The ancestry is a little confused at this point. Apparently 'Ancestors of Evelyn Wood Keeler', indicated below agrees with the way I have it, with Clodien marrying Morfydd verch Owain. but the 'Annals & Antiquities of Wales' has Morfydd, born about the same time, marrying Clodien's father, Gwrydr, and was thus not Gwaithfoed's mother, but his grandmother. Since the latter would make Gwaithfoed born much later, this scheme goes hand-in-hand with Gwaithfoed living more contemporaneously with Harold than with Edgar of England. (see notes under Gwaithfoed). I have tried to muddle through supporting both an early and late Gwaithfoed, so I am leaving Morfydd as married to Clodien.

All of the following information came from Jane Williams Flank, World Connect db=jwflank, rootsweb.com:

Sources:

Ancestors of Evelyn Wood Keeler; Josephine C Frost {1939}, p. 425
Note: Cites as references for Welsh lineages: Royal Families of England, Scotland, Wales: Volume I & 2; Genealogical Tables of the Sovereigns of the World; Maunder's Biographical Treasures; Universial Biography; etc.

Gwrydr married Morfydd Verch OWAIN. Morfydd was born about 920 in Wales, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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