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Elias Helias GIFFARD, Lord Of Brimsfield

Elias Helias GIFFARD, Lord Of Brimsfield

Male Abt 1060 - Bef 1130  (~ 69 years)

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  1. 1.  Elias Helias GIFFARD, Lord Of Brimsfield was born about 1060 in Longueville-Sur-Scie, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France (son of Osbern II Seigneur De Longueville De BOLEBEC and Avelina (Aveline) De Normandie FITZRICHARD); died before 1130 in Brimpsfield, Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Elias I Lord Of Brimsfield De BOLEBEC
    • Name: Elis GIFFARD
    • _UID: 4C408CCCD1F245B697FC3B2C7BBC3C1B2A5B
    • Alt. Birth: Abt 1072; Alt. Birth

    Notes:

    Named in 1090, in the chartulary of St. Peter of Gloucester, and with his wife Ala and his son Helias, appears in 1121 in the same chartulary. Dead by 1130 when his son paid 100 marks for his relief [PR, 31 Henry I]

    According to the Gloucestershire Assize Roll, 5 Henry III [1221], an Elias Giffard of Brimsfield was sued by the Abbot of Cirencester for erecting a gallows at Brimsfield. which the Abbot claimed to be within his liberty. Elias Giffard defended his right to have a gallows, and stated that a certain Osbert Giffard, his ancester, who came at the Conquest of England, had held the Manor of Brimesfield, with a right of gallows, and had hanged thieves there, and after him Elias his son had had the same liberty and had hanged thieves there, and after him Elias the son of the said Elias and the father of the defendant, had held the same liberty and had hanged a thief there in the reign of King Henry, the King's grandfather. Elias, the defendant in this suit, died in 33 Henry III [1249], leaving a son John, aged 16 years. Cf. Wrottesley (Giffards, pp. 7. 8). who shows that the defendant in this suit, Elias Giffard, omitted the name of one of his ancestors, another Elias, and that there were four Eliases between Osbert and John.

    Alt. Birth:
    Brimsfield, Gloucestershire, England

    Elias married Ala D' EVEREAUX about 1099. Ala (daughter of Edward D' EVEREAUX) was born about 1080 in Brimsfield, Gloucestershire, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Elias II Lord Of Brimsfield De GIFFARD was born about 1100 in Brimsfield, Gloucestershire, England; died about 1166 in Brimsfield, Gloucestershire, England.
    2. Gilbert GIFFARD was born about 1100 in Brimsfield, Gloucestershire, England; and died.
    3. Mathilda De GIFFARD was born about 1115; died in 1227.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Osbern II Seigneur De Longueville De BOLEBEC was born about 979 in Bolbec, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France (son of Osbern (Osbert) Lord Of Longueville De DE BOLBEC and Woerta (Wevia) DE CREPON); died in 1063 in France.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Osbern De BOLBEC
    • Name: Osbern De BOLEBEC
    • _UID: 734174FD45C04D5FAA4D95E219DFAE08F2BD

    Notes:

    Source: lorenfamily.com

    Osbern married Avelina (Aveline) De Normandie FITZRICHARD. Avelina (daughter of Richard II "The Good" Duke Of NORMANDY, 4rd and Judith Of Brittany DE BRETAGNE) was born about 995 in Longueville, Normandie, France; died in in France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Avelina (Aveline) De Normandie FITZRICHARD was born about 995 in Longueville, Normandie, France (daughter of Richard II "The Good" Duke Of NORMANDY, 4rd and Judith Of Brittany DE BRETAGNE); died in in France.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: 8XJV-44
    • Name: Avelina (Aveline) De NORMANDIE
    • _UID: C0BC879A343C46E0A3CA613D4EACED7A9F7D

    Notes:

    Source: lorenfamily.com

    Children:
    1. Walter "The Elder" Earl Of Buckingham GIFFARD was born about 1011 in Of, Longueville, Normandy, France; died in in France.
    2. Berenger GIFFARD was born about 1012 in Of, Longueville, Normandy, France; and died.
    3. 1. Elias Helias GIFFARD, Lord Of Brimsfield was born about 1060 in Longueville-Sur-Scie, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; died before 1130 in Brimpsfield, Cirencester, Gloucestershire, England.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  Osbern (Osbert) Lord Of Longueville De DE BOLBEC was born about 940 in Brimesfield, Gloucestershire, England; died in in France.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Osbern (Osbert) Lord De Bolbec GIFFARD
    • Name: Osbern De BOLEBEC
    • Name: Osborne (Osbert) GIFFARD
    • _UID: 58D63369513B400B86DC71600A18BF14C91D
    • Alt. Birth: Abt 953; Alt. Birth
    • Titled: Between 1028 and 1035

    Notes:

    Source: lorenfamily.com

    Alt. Birth:
    Longueville, Normandie, France

    Titled:
    Lord of Longueville, Normandie

    Osbern married Woerta (Wevia) DE CREPON. Woerta (daughter of Herbastus DE CREPON, King Of Denmark and Gunnhild OLAFSDOTTIR) was born about 942 in Port-Audemer, Normandy, France; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Woerta (Wevia) DE CREPON was born about 942 in Port-Audemer, Normandy, France (daughter of Herbastus DE CREPON, King Of Denmark and Gunnhild OLAFSDOTTIR); and died.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: GJNH-MZP
    • Name: Eva Senfrie (Sainfrie) De CREPON
    • Name: Senfrida (Senfria) CREPON
    • Name: Senfrie (Sainfrie) De CREPON
    • _UID: 31FD3CDCFA69441D92BD0186F7B4E0F8634E
    • Alt. Birth: Abt 946; Alt. Birth
    • Alt. Birth: Abt 959; Alt. Birth

    Notes:

    1. Histoire de la Maison de Harcourt" by La Roque (vol. 1, pp. 36-58).
    2. Burke's "Dormant, Abeyant, and Extinct Peerages" (pp. 42 and 399-400).

    Avelina, sister of Gundra, wife of Richard I, Duke of Normandy. [Burke's Peerage]
    -------------------
    Wevia, the only other sister of Gunnor named by Torigny, married Osbern de Bolbec (who is otherwise unknown to history). They had at least two sons: Walter Giffard, ancestor of the English Giffard/Gifford families, and also, through his daughter, of the Clare family; and Godfrey, whose son William de Arques had two daughters and co-heiresses.

    Note; I have Wevia's son as Gozeline (or Godfrey) and grandfather of William de Arques.

    Alt. Birth:
    Arque, Normandie, France

    Children:
    1. 2. Osbern II Seigneur De Longueville De BOLEBEC was born about 979 in Bolbec, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; died in 1063 in France.
    2. Beatrice De BOLEBEC was born about 980 in Longueville, Normandie, France; and died.
    3. Godfrey (Gozeline) Vicomte D' ARQUES was born about 987 in Longueville-Sur-Scie, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; died after 1035 in Arques-La-Bataille, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France.

  3. 6.  Richard II "The Good" Duke Of NORMANDY, 4rd was born on 20 Nov 974 in Normandie (Normandy), France (son of Richard I "Sans Peur" Duke Of NORMANDY, 3rd and Gunnora (Gonnor) DE CREPON); died on 28 Aug 1026 in L'abbaye DE Fecamp; was buried on 29 Aug 1026 in F?camp, Normandie (Normandy, France).

    Other Events:

    • Alt. Burial: Alt. Burial
    • Name: Richard II The Good Of NORMANDY
    • Name: The Good
    • _UID: CA743EFB35B4419BAF1F5B2C8DC94918484C
    • Alt. Birth: Abt 958
    • Alt. Birth: Abt 963; Alt. Birth
    • Titled: Between 996 and 1026
    • Alt. Death: 28 Aug 1027; Alt. Death

    Notes:

    Name Suffix: Duke of Normandy
    Ancestral File Number: 9HMD-XR
    Sourc es: RC 89, 141, 167, 176; Kraentzler 1156, 1174, 1194, 1211, 1218, 1225,
    1239, 1264, 1443; K and Q of Britain, Onslow; Coe, A. Roots 121, 132, 132A; 177;
    Pf afman; Butler; AIS.
    RC and K: Richard II, le Bon (the Good). Duke of Normandy.
    AIS: Richard II, Duke of Normandy.

    SOURCES:
    1. Stuart, Roderick W. _Roy alty for Commoners_. 2nd Edition. Baltimore,
    MD: Genealogical Publishing Com pany, Inc., 1992; line 89-32.
    2. Ancestral File (AFN:9HMD-XR).

    1 NAME Richard II the Good of /Normandy/

    Sources: RC 89, 141, 167, 176; Kraentzler 1156, 1174, 1194, 1211, 1218, 1225,
    1239, 1264, 1443; K and Q of Britain, Onslow; Coe, A. Roots 121, 132, 132A; 177 ;
    Pfafman; Butler; AIS.
    RC and K: Richard II, le Bon (the Good). Duke of Norm andy.
    AIS: Richard II, Duke of Normandy.

    SOURCES:
    1. Stuart, Roderick W. _Royalty for Commoners_. 2nd Edition. Baltimore,
    MD: Genealogical Publishing Company, Inc., 1992; line 89-32.
    2. Ancestral File (AFN:9HMD-XR).


    Richard II, byname RICHARD THE GOOD, French RICHARD LE BON (d. 1026/27), duke of Normandy (996-1026/27), son of Richard I the Fearless. He held his own against a peasant insurrection, helped Robert II of France against the duchy of Burgundy, and repelled an English attack on the Cotentin Peninsula that was led by the Anglo-Saxon king Ethelred II the Unready. He also pursued a reform of the Norman monasteries. [Encyclopaedia Britannica CD '97]

    Alt. Burial:
    Fbecamp, Normandie

    Relationship (J,M&L):
    33rd Great-grandparent

    Alt. Birth:
    of, Normandy, France

    Alt. Birth:
    , Normandie

    Titled:
    Duc (Duke) de Normandie (Normandy)

    Alt. Death:
    Fbecamp, Normandie

    Richard married Judith Of Brittany DE BRETAGNE in 1000 in , Normandy, France. Judith (daughter of Conan I "The Crooked" Rennes Count Of BRITTANY and Ermengarde D'ANJOU) was born in 982 in Bretagne, Normandy, France; died on 16 Jun 1017 in Normandie (Normandy), France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 7.  Judith Of Brittany DE BRETAGNE was born in 982 in Bretagne, Normandy, France (daughter of Conan I "The Crooked" Rennes Count Of BRITTANY and Ermengarde D'ANJOU); died on 16 Jun 1017 in Normandie (Normandy), France.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Judith De BRETAGNE
    • Name: Judith De BRETAGNE
    • _UID: D88F19A832974ECD860EAA9BE68B6830EEAB
    • Alt. Birth: Abt 982; Alt. Birth
    • Alt. Death: 16 Jun 1017; Alt. Death

    Notes:

    Name Suffix: Princess
    Ancestral File Number: 9HML-RQ
    Sources: RC 8 9, 141, 167, 176; Onslow; Coe, Pfafman, A. Roots 121, 121E,
    132, 132A, 177; Kr aentzler 1156, 1174, 1194, 1211, 1218, 1225, 1239, 1264.
    RC: Judith of Rennes (Brittany), or Judith of Brittany (Rennes). Or of
    Bretagne. K: Judith de Bre tagne.
    Roots: Judith of Brittany. Founded abbey of Bernay, Normandy, ca. 1026. Had
    many children by Richard II.
    AF listed another daughter N.N., born about 1007. Onslow, however, says
    Eleanor was the youngest daughter, born 1005.


    This information is assumed correct, but may contain erroneous links. Please don't assume it to be the absolute truth. I've tried to double check most of the work to assure myself of its accuracy...but you can never be 100% sure. Th ank you, and enjoy.

    1 NAME Judith of /Brittany/
    2 SOUR S033320
    3 DATA
    4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001
    1 BIRT
    2 DATE ABT. 982
    2 PLAC Bret agne, France
    2 SOUR S033320
    3 DATA
    4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001
    1 DEAT
    2 DATE 16 JUN 1017
    2 PLAC Normandy, France
    2 SOUR S033320
    3 DA TA
    4 TEXT Date of Import: Jan 17, 2001


    [De La Pole.FTW]

    Sources: RC 89, 141, 167, 176; Onslow; Coe, Pfafman, A. Roots 121, 121E,
    132, 132A, 177; K raentzler 1156, 1174, 1194, 1211, 1218, 1225, 1239, 1264.
    RC: Judith of Rennes (Brittany), or Judith of Brittany (Rennes). Or of
    Bretagne. K: Judith de Br etagne.
    Roots: Judith of Brittany. Founded abbey of Bernay, Normandy, ca. 1026 . Had
    many children byRichard II.
    AF listed another daughter N.N., born about 1007. Onslow, however, says
    Eleanor was the youngest daughter, born 1005.


    Source: lorenfamily.com

    Relationship (J,M&L):
    33rd Great-grandparent

    Alt. Birth:
    Bretagne, France

    Alt. Death:
    Normandy, France

    Notes:

    Alt. Marriage:
    , Normandie, France

    Children:
    1. William (Nicholas), Monk At Fechamp and died.
    2. Alice (Adelaide, Judith) and died.
    3. 3. Avelina (Aveline) De Normandie FITZRICHARD was born about 995 in Longueville, Normandie, France; died in in France.
    4. Judith De NORMANDY was born about 996; died in in , France.
    5. Richard III Duke Of NORMANDY was born about 997 in Normandy, France; died on 6 Aug 1028.
    6. Countess Eleanor (Saint Adela) Of NORMANDY was born about 1005 in Normandy, France; died in 1071 in As A Nun, At The Benedictine Convent Near Ypres.
    7. Guillaume Nicholas Lord Of Areci De NORMANDIE was born between 1005 and 1010 in Normandie (Normandy), France; died in Jun 1025 in Normandie (Normandy), France.
    8. Robert II "The Devil" Of Normandy ANGEVIN, Duke Of Normandy was born about 1008 in Normandie (Normandy), France; died on 22 Jul 1050 in Nicaea, Bithynia, Turkey; was buried in Nicaea, Bithynia, Turkey.
    9. El?onore (Eleonore) De NORMANDIE was born about 1009 in Normandie (Normandy), France; and died.


Generation: 4

  1. 10.  Herbastus DE CREPON, King Of Denmark was born about 911 in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France (son of Ziemomsyl I PIAST, King of Poland); died on 20 Nov 996 in Dourdan, Essonne, Ile-de-France, France.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: G8ST-XJY
    • Name: Herbastus "Not" De CREPON
    • Name: Herbastus De CREPON
    • Name: Herbastus De CREPON
    • _UID: 8E5995C67F774B15BD5E9C1C8A476BC86F50

    Notes:

    BIOGRAPHY: Royality for Commoners specifies that he is the same as King of Denmark, Haraldblaafand. BIOGRAPHY: History of Normandy; Under Roman domination the region formed part of Gallia Lugdunensis (Celtic Gaul). With the Frankish invasions it was made a constitiuent part of the Kingdom of Neustria. It came to be known as Normandy about 911, when Charles III King of France, turned it over to Rollo, the leader of a menacing band of Viking raiders. In 1066 a descendant of Rollo, William II, duke of Normandy, led an invasion of England and established himself there as William I, King of England. Normandy remained an English possession until conquered in 1204 by Philip II Augustus, King of France. During the Hundred years' War, the region was held at various times by both Frenct and English forces; it was finally recovered by the French in 1450. The Channel Islands, which were once a part of Normandy, remained in the possession of England. Normandy was the location of the Allied invasion of German-occupied france during World War II.

    Apparently there is no evidence of what the name was of the father of Gunnor, Senfrie, Herfast, and Avelina. Ancestral Roots states he was a forester of Arque. He was not of Crepon, but later genealogists mistakenly thought the family was of Crepon because Herbastus' son, Herfast, received lands in Crepon, probably due to the relationship of his sister with Duke Richard.

    I will leave the "de Crepon" name with the family, just as I have the Plantagenet name with that family, although the Plantagenets were not known by that name until Richard, Duke of York in the 1400's. However I will put a "not' in front of everybody but the son, who was "de Crepon".

    Relationship (J,M&L):
    33rd Great-grandparent

    Occupation:
    Forester of Arque

    Herbastus married Gunnhild OLAFSDOTTIR about 959. Gunnhild was born in 923 in Uppsala, Sweden; died in 1000 in Longueville, Aqaluitaine, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 11.  Gunnhild OLAFSDOTTIR was born in 923 in Uppsala, Sweden; died in 1000 in Longueville, Aqaluitaine, France.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: G8ST-QDR
    • Name: Gyrithe Olafsdotter Princess Of SWEDEN
    • Name: Gyrithe OLAFSDOTTER QUEEN OF DENMARK
    • _UID: 17583E47B13D479C99B5FD7C8906FB9DB3A2

    Notes:

    Source: lorenfamily.com

    Relationship (J,M&L):
    35th Great-grandparent

    Children:
    1. Gunnora (Gonnor) DE CREPON was born about 936 in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; died about 1031 in France.
    2. 5. Woerta (Wevia) DE CREPON was born about 942 in Port-Audemer, Normandy, France; and died.
    3. Senfrie (Senfria\Seinfreda) Of CREPON was born about 950 in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; and died.
    4. Duvelina (Eva\Dulceline) Of CREPON was born about 953 in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; and died.
    5. Herfast (Arfastus) De CREPON was born about 955 in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; died in Deceased in Crepon, Calvados, Normandy, France.

  3. 12.  Richard I "Sans Peur" Duke Of NORMANDY, 3rd was born on 28 Aug 933 in F?camp, Normandie (Normandy, France) (son of William I "Longsword" FITZROBERT, 2nd and Sprota (Adela) Of Senlis); died on 20 Nov 996 in F?camp, Normandie (Normandy, France); was buried in F?camp, Normandie (Normandy, France).

    Other Events:

    • Name: Richard I "The Fearless" Duke Of NORMANDY
    • Name: Richard I Of NORMANDY
    • Name: Sans Peur
    • _UID: EB96E81D716F45448714AE90D76A321B568B

    Notes:

    BIOGRAPHY: acceded 942. From Rosamond McKitterick.s, "The Frankish Kingdoms under the Carolingians 751-987", London & NY (Longman) 1983, pp. 238-239: "When in 942 WILLIAM was murdered at the instigation of COUNT ARNULF OF FLANDERS (RIN 2173), his son Richard, still a minor, succeeded him. LOUIS IV (RIN 1617) and HUGH THE GREAT (RIN 1206) each tried to sieze Normandy, and LOUIS took charge of Richard. He then ensconced himself at Rouen and HUGH took Bayeux, which still had a Scandinavian leader called Sictric. Richard escaped from his custody at Laon, retook Rouen, and called on another Viking leader, Harald of the Bassin, for help. The Normans under Richard were able to re-establish their autonomy and from 947 Richard governed in relative peace. In 965 he swore allegiance to the Carolingian king Lothar [son of LOUIS IV] at Gisors. Richard's official marriage was to Emma, daughter of HUGH THE GREAT; they had no children, but by his common-law wife GUNNOR, a Dane, he had many. RICHARD II, son of GUNNOR and Richard I, succeeded his father in 996, another son Robert was archbishop of Rouen from 989 to 1037 and EMMA their daughter became queen of England on her marriage to AETHELREAD, a position she maintained after his death in 1016 by marrying Knut. GUNNOR's nephews and other relatives further more formed the core of the new aristocracy which developed in the course of the eleventh century. Unfortunately we know little about the internal organization and history of Normandy until the reign of RICHARD II."

    Richard married Gunnora (Gonnor) DE CREPON after 962 in France. Gunnora (daughter of Herbastus DE CREPON, King Of Denmark and Gunnhild OLAFSDOTTIR) was born about 936 in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France; died about 1031 in France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 13.  Gunnora (Gonnor) DE CREPON was born about 936 in Arque, Seine-Inferieure, Normandy, France (daughter of Herbastus DE CREPON, King Of Denmark and Gunnhild OLAFSDOTTIR); died about 1031 in France.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: G39Q-HBK
    • Name: Gonnor De CREPON
    • _UID: 5A335DB7DA964FACAA2D335ABBBB4F4F8453

    Notes:

    Curt Hofemann, [email protected], in a post-em, wrote:

    Apparently she was not "de Crepon" & her parentage is unknown:

    The name of the father of Gunnor is unknown. Herbastus is derived from the name of her brother Herfast/Arfastus, but is unsupported. [Ref: Todd A Farmerie message to Gen-Medieval 6 Nov 1996]

    The greater part of our information about Gunnor and her relations is derived from those additions to the History of William of Jumieges for which Robert de Rotigny is responsible. It is Robert who preserved the story of how Richard I of Normandy became enamoured of the beautiful Senfrie, wife of one of his foresters, and how Senfrie contrived to substitute her sister Gunnor for herself, to the Duke's ultimate satisfaction. [Ref The Sisters and Nieces of Gunnor, Duchess of Normandy by G.H. White in the Genealogist, New Series 1921 v37 p57]

    Parentage of Gunnor and her siblings is unknown. While some sources call her father Herfastus, this was in fact the name of her brother. She has also been claimed as a daughter of the Danish royal family, but there is no evidence for this, and the context of her coming to attention of Richard I and the family's subsequent rise to power militates against her being a royal daughter. Douglas argued, based on the donations of brother Arfast to the monastery of St. Pere, that the root of the family was in the Cotetin region of Normandy, but van Houts has suggested that the Cotetin land was granted to Arfast, rather than inherited by him. Thus we are left with the more ambiguous statement of Torigny and others that she was a member of a Norman family of Danish origins. [Ref: Todd A Farmerie message to Gen-Medieval 5 Jan 1997]

    Gunnora ... was not "de Crepon", nor was she daughter of Herbastus de Crepon of Denmark - her brother Herfastus/Arfast appears to have received Crepon only after Gunnora took up with Richard I, and thus the family was not originally from there. Likewise, while she is said to be of a noble family of Danish ancestry, it is not stated that her father was from Denmark (the family probably arrived with Rollo, in the generation of her (unknown) grandfather. [Ref: Todd A Farmerie message to Gen-Medieval 28 Jul 2000]

    Research note 1: Was her father Herfast de CREPON or King Haraldblaafand of DENMARK? There is a lack of consensus on this. -Charlotte's Web Geneology http://www.charweb.org/gen/rjones/d0042/g0000020.htm#I239

    Research note 2: father: Harald I Blaatand, Bluetooth, King of Denmark [Ref: McBride2 (possibly citing Wurts)]

    My notes on Gunnora:
    This is the same Gunnora known as Gunnora of Crepon, but both are of little value. Gunnora was NOT of Denmark. Some inventive genealogist somewhere along the line decided to make her daughter of Harald Bluetooth, but there is no basis for this, and what we know of her indicates it is not really a possibility worthy of consideration. Her nephew later was called "of Crepon" but he likely gained his posessions through Gunnora's marriage to the Duke, rather than this representing the original home of the clan.

    What can be said of Gunnora's parents? Nothing! She was not daughter of Harfast, as (too) often stated. Her family was likely of the minor Norman nobility, since her oldest sister was married to a forester at the time Richard first bumped into the girls. That's it.

    Richard I of Normandy first bedded, and later married Gunnora, whose ancestry is entirely unknown. She is sometimes said to be daughter of a King of Denmark, but this is incorrect. [taf]

    There are several things going on here. First of all, the father of Gunnora and siblings is not known. Attempts to name him Herbastus probably originated in confusion with her brother. Second, Gunnora had three sisters, Senfria/Senfreda, Wevia, and (Avelina). The first married an otherwise unknown forester. The latter two are confused by our two sources, one claiming that it was Wevia who married Osbern, and the other that Wevia married Turold of Pont Audemer, and by deduction, (Avelina) married Osbern. We know that Osbern married one of them, and a recent analysis suggests that it was Wevia for nomenclatural reasons. (Specifically, Turold and wife had a granddaughter named Duvelina, and it is hyposthesized that she was named for her grandmother, and that Duvelina is the authentic name of the sister, rather than Avelina. Finally, in which generation was Osbern's. This is unambiguous. She was sister of Gunnora and the others. There is no source before recent times that claims otherwise. There are two probable origins for the error that she was niece of Gunnora. First, due to the error in naming her father Herfastus, someone aware that this was the name of Gunnora's brother assumed then that Avelina's father was Gunnora's brother (the name of Gunnora's father being unknown, and probably unknowable). The second possibility is a confusion of uncle and nephew. Harfastus/Arfast had a son Osbern of Crepon, and perhaps someone confused this man with Osbern of Bolbec. Still, we know for certain that Osbern of Bolbec married a sister of Gunnora. [Ref: Dave Utzinger message to Gen-Medieval 29 Jul 2000]

    Regards,
    Curt

    Children:
    1. Robert Count Of Evereaux Of NORMANDY was born about 965 in , Normandie; died in 1037.
    2. Maugher (Mauger) Earl Of Corbeil De NORMANDY was born about 967 in Normandie (Normandy), France; and died.
    3. Hedwig Of NORMANDY was born about 970 in Normandy, France; died on 21 Feb 1033-1034; was buried in Rennes, Bretagne, France.
    4. Mahaud De NORMANDIE was born about 974 in Normandie (Normandy), France; died before 1017.
    5. 6. Richard II "The Good" Duke Of NORMANDY, 4rd was born on 20 Nov 974 in Normandie (Normandy), France; died on 28 Aug 1026 in L'abbaye DE Fecamp; was buried on 29 Aug 1026 in F?camp, Normandie (Normandy, France).
    6. Havoise De NORMANDIE was born about 977 in Normandie (Normandy), France; died on 21 Feb 1033-1034; was buried in , Rennes, Bretagne.
    7. Ralph Auberee Of Normandy Count Of IVRY was born in 978 in Ivry-La-Bataille, Evereux, Eure, Normandie, France; died after 1034.
    8. B?atrix (Beatrix B?atrice) Of NORMANDY was born about 980 in Normandie (Normandy), France; died on 18 Jan 1033-1034.
    9. Emma Princess Of NORMANDY was born about 982 in Normandie (Normandy), France; died on 6 Mar 1051-1052 in , Winchester, Hampshire, England; was buried in St Martin's Church, Winchester, Hampshire, England.
    10. Emma Of Normandy was born in 986; and died.

  5. 14.  Conan I "The Crooked" Rennes Count Of BRITTANY was born about 955 in Bretagne, Normandy, France (son of Judicael BERENGAR, Comte De Rennes and Gerberge); died on 27 Jun 992 in Killed; was buried on 29 Jun 992.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Conan I Duke Of BRETAGNE
    • Name: Conan Ier "Le Tort" De RENNES
    • Name: Conan Ier "Le Tort" De Rennes Duc De BRETAGNE
    • Name: The Crooked
    • _UID: F1AAFB4F73C440498619066C1CD99A8ACF7C

    Notes:

    Source: lorenfamily.com

    Titled:
    Duc (Duke) de Bretagne (Brittany)

    Titled:
    "le Tort" - "The Crooked / Wrong"

    Conan married Ermengarde D'ANJOU in 973 in France. Ermengarde (daughter of Geoffrey I, Count Of Anjou and Adelais DE VERMANDOIS) was born about 950 in Of, Anjou, France; died on 27 Jun 992. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 15.  Ermengarde D'ANJOU was born about 950 in Of, Anjou, France (daughter of Geoffrey I, Count Of Anjou and Adelais DE VERMANDOIS); died on 27 Jun 992.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: 9HPT-8B
    • Name: Ermangarde D' ANJOU
    • _UID: 033BA1F587414E1A9FC9736329ED4A19BB29

    Notes:

    Source: lorenfamily.com

    Children:
    1. Judica?l De Rennes Bishop Of VANNES was born about 975; died in 1037.
    2. Geofroi I Duke Of BRITTANY was born about 980 in Bretagne, Normandy, France; died on 20 Nov 1008 in Killed.
    3. Jutha?l (Juthael) Count Of PORHOET was born about 980; and died.
    4. 7. Judith Of Brittany DE BRETAGNE was born in 982 in Bretagne, Normandy, France; died on 16 Jun 1017 in Normandie (Normandy), France.