Maldred Lord Of Carlisle & ALLERDALE

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• Name: Aldred Earl Of NORTHUMBRIA
• _UID: C49FF5AC87D646DFA0E1D26391B853DAB2BA

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Maldred, brother of Duncan I "The Gracious" King of Strathclyde 1018-34 and King of Scots 1034-40 (for Maldred's previous ancestry and a discussion as to what extent this may derive from Eochu Mugmedon, High King of Ireland in the mid 14th century, see American Presidential Families, pp.40-41 and 45-46, Morris Genealogical Books, SA, 1994); feudal Lord Allerdale; married Ealdgyth or Aldgyth, daughter of Uchtred, Ughtred, or Uhtred Earl of Northumberland or Northumbria by his 3rd wife Elgiva or Aelgifu, daughter of Ethelred II "The Unready" King of England 979-1013 and 1014-16, and was probably killed in battle 1045 when trying to avenge his brother's murder by Macbeth. [Burke's Peerage]

Maldred married about 1035. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: Crinan The THANE
• _UID: 3634A6F05EEA4BAA9449275D589A11B2536A

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Crinan; Lay Abbot of Dunkeld; married c1000 Bethoc, elder daughter of Malcolm II, and was killed 1045 in battle against Macbeth (the historic figure who murdered Crinan's elder son Duncan I, and subsequently is portrayed as having usurped the Scottish throne, most famously by Shakespeare), leaving (Maldred), with an elder son (Duncan I "The Gracious" King of Scots 1034-40; ancestor of the Sovereigns of England and later England, Ireland, Scotland, Great Britain, etc.). [Burke's Peerage]

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Crinan the Thane (Albanock, Grimus), of the kin of St. Columba, Lord of the Isles, Governor of Scots Island, Earl of Strathclye, hereditary Abbot of Dunkeld.

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The following additional information was given in a post-em by Curt Hofemann, [email protected]:

given name spelled: Cr?n?n [Ref: Henry Project]

Lay Abbot of Dunkeld, Governor of the Scots Islands [Ref: Weis AR7 170:19]
Heriditary Abbott of Dunkeld, or the Kindred of St. Columba [Ref: Royal Highness: Ancestors of the Royal Child by Sir Ian Moncreiffe, 1982, Hamish Hamilton, London Pg 20] note: "or the kindred of" = ? Either was or wasn't... Curt

In what was probably a shrewd political move, Malcolm II married his daughter Bethoc to a representative of the other major center of political power in Scotland, the church. Considering the close ties between ruling dynasties and the offices of major abbacies throughout Ireland and Scotland, it is also possible that Crinan was descended from a king of the Scots, which would completely legitimize his son's rule. [Ref: The Genealogy of the Early Medieval Scottish Kings, Edinburgh by Michael R. Davidson 1995, Holland House, Edinburgh, Scotland]

Malcolm's elder daughter Bethoc married Crinan 'the Thane', lay abbot of Dunkeld. At this period, when Celtic Monasticism was in decline, lay abbots appear to have been as accepted a part of the ecclesiastical structure as they became centuries later on the eve of the Reformation. Crinan was a great nobleman, as his title implies, and he possessed the added prestige of belonging to the kindred of St. Columba. It was from his abbacy of Dunkeld that the new royal House took its name, for Crinan and Bethoc were the parents of King Duncan I...Meanwhile, Macbeth consolidated his triumph by defeating and slaying Duncan's father, Crinan, in a battle at Dunkeld in 1045. [Ref: The Kings and Queens of Scotland] note: sorry, I sourced this early-on before I realized one also has to list author, publisher, date, etc.-we get too soon old & too late smart... Curt

Macbeth...probably a grandson of Malcolm II...asserted his claim to the throne against Duncan I, whom he killed near Elgin. In 1045 he killed Crinan, Duncan's father in battle, but in 1057 he was himself killed by Duncan's son, Malcolm Canmore (Malcolm III). [Ref: A Dictionary of British History by J.P. Kenyon, 1983 Stein and Day, Scarborough House, Briarcliff Manor, NY]

Research note: Supposed father: Since the abbacy of Dunkeld appears to have been hereditary in Cr?n?n's family (his grandson ?thelred held the title), it has sometimes been suggested that Cr?n?n may have been the son of this earlier abbot of Dunkeld whose death is known form both the Irish and Scottish sources [e.g., AU; ESSH 1: 471, 473, 577; KKES 252]. While the relationship is not impossible (assuming that Cr?n?n's father died when he was an infant), there is no known evidence to support it, and it cannot be accepted without further evidence [Ref: Henry Project citing:

AU = Se?n Mac Airt and Gear?id Mac Niocaill, The Annals of Ulster, Dublin, 1983
ESSH = Alan Orr Anderson, Early Sources of Scottish History, 2 vols. (Edinburgh, 1922, reprinted Stamford, 1990)
KKES = Marjorie Ogilvy Anderson, Kings and Kingship in Early Scotland (Edinburgh, Totowa, NJ, 1973)]

Jim, I recommend highly the Henry Project of which I've prevously supplied the URL. If you've not already, spend some time there. A most realistic scholarly work. He even debunks some connections common all over the internet & explains why. Quite a refreshing change from the normal junk genealogy that is these days prevalent. Not to condemn today's amateur genealogists - junk genealogy is not new - look at some of the earlier genealogies of the Habsburgs linking them back to the Old Testament (depending on which genalogist at the time, in different ways).

Regards,
Curt

Crinan married Bethoc (Beatrix) Princess Of SCOTLAND in 1000 in Scotland. Bethoc (daughter of Malcolm II Mackenneth King Of SCOTLAND and Hvarflad (Svanlaug) (Nereid) HLODVERSDATTER) was born about 984 in Atholl, Perthshire, Scotland; died in 1045 in Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• _UID: 57B4C335C593477886C59A5361A586B290E1
• Alt. Birth: Abt 984; Alt. Birth

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Relationship (J,M&L):
30th Great-grandparent

Titled:
Heiress of Scone

Alt. Birth:
Of, Atholl, Perthshire, Scotland

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• _UID: BD9813FFE83F49C5A6F325B2746B36FF20BA

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Commanded the Scottish left wing at the battle of Luncarty (c990) where the Danes were so crushingly defeated that their raids on that part of what subsequently became Perthshire, hitherto periodic and devastating, were terminated; had (Crinan), with two younger sons ((1) Grim, Thane (hereditary tenant of the Crown) of Strathearn (west of Perth) and Baille (functionary with judicial powers) of Dule, killed 1010 at Battle of Mortlach, where Malcolm II King of Scots defeated invading Norsemen; (2) Duncan, ancestor of the Irving's of Dumfries and Forbes Irvine's of Drum). [Burke's Peerage]

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• Alt. Burial: Alt. Burial
• Name: Malcolm II Albany King Of SCOTLAND
• Name: Malcolm II Of ALBA
• _UID: CBD580F353824BD5AB7DCB6793D2EAFFB084
• Alt. Birth: Abt 958; Alt. Birth
• Alt. Death: 25 Nov 1034; Alt. Death

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Malcolm took advantage of the fact that the English were preoccupied with Danish raids and marched south, winning the Battle of Carham against the Angles in 1018 and thereby regaining Lothian. Thirteen years later King Canute invaded Scotland and forced Malcolm to submit to him. However, Canute seems to have recognized Malcolm's possession of Lothian.

After Malcolm II's reign, Scottish succession was based on the principle of direct descent. Previously, succession was determined by tanistry - during a king's lifetime an heir was chosen and known as "tanaiste rig" (second to the king).

Alt. Burial:
, Iona, Argyllshire, Scotland

Relationship (J,M&L):
32nd Great-grandparent

Titled:
King of Scotland

Alt. Birth:
, Scotland

Alt. Death:
, Glamis, Forfarshire, Scotland

Malcolm married Hvarflad (Svanlaug) (Nereid) HLODVERSDATTER about 983 in , Scotland. Hvarflad was born about 962 in Of, Orkney Islands, Scotland; died after 984. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• AFN: 9G83-RG
• Name: Aegifu
• Name: Hvarflad (Svanlaug) Hlodversdatter Of ORKNEY
• Name: Miss Orkney Queen Of SCOTLAND
• Name: ORKNEY
• _UID: C4DD3C48B7EE424F9C3FE0162ADFC4D8D138
• Alt. Birth: Abt 962; Alt. Birth
• Alt. Birth: Abt 962; Alt. Birth

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Source: lorenfamily.com

Alt. Birth:
, Scotland

Alt. Birth:
Scotland

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• _UID: C7D3F6B0D6ED476A94359F8E699C164B106A

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Fought for Colin in loss against Duff, son of Malcolm I. [Burke's Peerage]

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• Name: Kenneth II King Of SCOTLAND
• _UID: 058DD8B7A2EA4FC6BE60B9124E8285FCFC64

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In 973 he acknowledged Edgar, King of England as his lord in return for recognition that he held Lothian, which he had seized from the Angles. In about 994, he broke his promise and invaded England. He was defeated and lost Lothian again. He killed Culen (the prior king's brother in 977 and was himself killed in a blood feud by Culen's son, Constantine, who became the next king of Scotland.

RULED:
971-995

Kenneth married Miss De LEINSTER. Miss was born about 935 in Leinster, Ireland; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• _UID: EEC7BDA85D91426EA73D51072AD2649BEFDD