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Bertram HARBOTTLE, Of Beamish & Tanfield, Esq

Bertram HARBOTTLE, Of Beamish & Tanfield, Esq

Male Abt 1426 - 1462  (~ 36 years)

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Bertram HARBOTTLE, Of Beamish & Tanfield, Esq was born about 1426 in Horton, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England (son of Robert HARBOTTLE, Of Preston, Esq and Margery (Margaret) De OGLE); died on 2 Aug 1462 in Beamish & Tanfield, Durham, England.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Bertram HARBOTEL
    • _UID: B270607C0B51416EB597FFBEE01F60F667AF
    • Alt. Death: 1466; Alt. Death

    Notes:

    Bertram Harbotel, d. 1466; m. 1439, Joan, daughter of Thomas Lord Lumley. [Magna Charta Sureties]

    Bertram married Joan De LUMLEY in 1439 in 1st Husband. Joan was born about 1430 in Little Lumley, Chester Le Street, Durham, England; died after 9 Dec 1492. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. Margaret HARBOTTLE was born about 1462 in Dalton Travers, North Riding Yorkshire, England; and died.

Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Robert HARBOTTLE, Of Preston, Esq was born about 1400 in Preston, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England; died on 14 Mar 1442-1443.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Robert HARBOTEL
    • _UID: 8D42C73C719243C6970A173725D0C5A62D91

    Robert married Margery (Margaret) De OGLE in Jun 1424 in 1st Husband. Margery (daughter of Robert De OGLE, Sir Knight and Maud GREY) was born about 1406 in Kirkley, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Margery (Margaret) De OGLE was born about 1406 in Kirkley, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England (daughter of Robert De OGLE, Sir Knight and Maud GREY); and died.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 212B08AF9E93482592B954B801B2275B2DB0

    Notes:

    Margaret Ogle; m. Sir Robert Harbotel, d. 14 Mar 1443. [Magna Charta Sureties]

    Children:
    1. 1. Bertram HARBOTTLE, Of Beamish & Tanfield, Esq was born about 1426 in Horton, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England; died on 2 Aug 1462 in Beamish & Tanfield, Durham, England.


Generation: 3

    Children:
    1. 2. Robert HARBOTTLE, Of Preston, Esq was born about 1400 in Preston, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England; died on 14 Mar 1442-1443.

  • 6.  Robert De OGLE, Sir Knight was born between 1379 and 1383 in Ogle, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England; died on 12 Aug 1436.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: C15C0A41BC2B46F98AE28B84AECBB2023646
    • Alt. Birth: Between 1369 and 1373; Alt. Birth

    Notes:

    Sir Robert Ogle, Knight, b. 1369/73, d. 12 Aug 1436, warden of Roxborough Castle. [Ancestral Roots]

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    SIR ROBERT DE OGLE, knight, son and heir, was said variously to be aged 26 and 30 in 1409. In 1400, on some unknown occasion, he had been made prisoner by the Scots. In February 1402/3 he was appointed by the Bishop of Durham constable of Norham Castle, and justice, seneschal, sheriff and escheator in Norhamshire and Islandshire for 7 years; and in September for life. He had the King's writ for livery of his inheritance, 3, and livery 12 May 1410, being then a knight (d1). In May 1410 he was one of the commissioners to treat of a truce with Scotland, and in July commissioner of array in Northumberland. Sheriff of Northumberland, 1417-18, and Knight of the Shire, 1419-21, 1425 and 1435- In 1419 he recaptured Wark from William de Haliburton. In 1422 and succeeding years he was a commissioner of the peace. He was lieutenant of the Duke of Bedford as captain of Berwick Castle in 1423; and in the following year one of the escort appointed to conduct the King of Scots from Durham to Scotland. From 1425 to 1435 he was warden of Roxburgh Castle; in 1426 was one of the commissioners in Northumberland to arrange a short-term loan to the King; and in 1435 sheriff of Hexhamshire. He married, on or before 21 May 1399, Maud, daughter of Thomas GREY, lord of Wark. He died 12 or 13 August 1436 (d2). His widow was living 22 August 1451 (e). [Complete Peerage X:28-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    (d1) He had, upon his father's death, violently contested the possession of Bothal with his younger brother John. The Commons presented a petition on behalf of John in the Parliament that met in Jan 1490/10, setting forth that at midnight on the day after their father's death Robert came to Bothal with 200 men-at-arms, some of whom were hired men, and some "even Scots" and enemies of the King, and besieged the castle with "escales, pavises, hurdises et autres orinances de guerre," till after 4 days' siege John was obliged to surrender. Robert remained in possession, and the Commons prayed that the matter should be referred to the Council--"considerantz qe les ditz Chastell & Manoir sont sy pres le Est-Marche d'Escoce, qe sufficeant remedie au dit suppliant par cours de la Commune Ley illoeqes ne poet estre fait." Robert was summoned to answer before the Council, and must have made his peace before the issue of his writ of livery.

    (d2) He had issue: younger sons John and William, and a daughter Margery, m. to Robert, son and heir of Rober Harbottle, Esq.

    (e) When her son Robert granted a reversion after her death to his brother William. She was probably still alive in 1453/4, when Maud Ogle, widow, paid tithes of Newbigging, in Norham.

    Note: Maybe somebody can't do simple arithmetic, but I get 1379-83 when I compute Robert's birth year from the information in CP. AR and MCS (who say 1369-73) also refer to a publication by Clay on the Extinct Peerages of the Northern Counties of England, so maybe he overrode CP. I think I will stick with CP until I find different.

    Alt. Birth:
    Ogle, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England

    Robert married Maud GREY before 21 May 1399. Maud (daughter of Thomas GREY, Of Heton & Wark, Sir and Joan (Jane) De MOWBRAY) was born about 1386 in Heaton Castle, Wark-On-Tweed, Northumberland, England; died after 22 Aug 1451. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  • 7.  Maud GREY was born about 1386 in Heaton Castle, Wark-On-Tweed, Northumberland, England (daughter of Thomas GREY, Of Heton & Wark, Sir and Joan (Jane) De MOWBRAY); died after 22 Aug 1451.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 144B0F01209C4B138B528D944F1B87DB538F

    Notes:

    Maud Grey, living 22 Aug 1451; m. c 21 May 1399, Sir Robert Ogle, Knight, b. 1369/73, d. 12 Aug 1436, warden of Roxborough Castle. [Ancestral Roots]

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    He [Robert de Ogle] married, on or before 21 May 1399, Maud, daughter of Thomas GREY, lord of Wark. He died 12 or 13 August 1436. His widow was living 22 August 1451. [Complete Peerage X:28-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    Children:
    1. Elizabeth (Anne) De OGLE was born about 1404 in Kirkley, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England; and died.
    2. 3. Margery (Margaret) De OGLE was born about 1406 in Kirkley, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England; and died.


  • Generation: 4

      Children:
      1. 6. Robert De OGLE, Sir Knight was born between 1379 and 1383 in Ogle, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England; died on 12 Aug 1436.

  • 14.  Thomas GREY, Of Heton & Wark, Sir was born about 1359 in Heaton Castle, Wark-On-Tweed, Northumberland, England; died about 30 Nov 1400.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 5F6849892150470089C1DB70F5C4700716A5

    Notes:

    Jane de Mowbray; m. Sir Thomas Gray of Wark. [Ancestral Roots]

    Joan de Mowbray; m. Sir Thomas Grey of Heaton, d. c 30 Nov 1400. [Magna Charta Sureties]

    Note: Sometimes it is hard to recognize that these two sources are talking about the same people

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    "With the croked foot", Knight, of Heaton in Northumberland; M.P. for Northumberland. In 1398 he obtained the castle, manor, and lordship of Wark-on-Tweed from Ralph, Earl of Westmorland, in exchange for other manors.

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    SIR JOHN GRAY or GREY, younger son of Sir Thomas GRAY, of Heton and Wark-on-Tweed, Northumberland (who d. 26 November or 3 December 1400) (c), by Joan, his wife (who was living 30 November 1402). [Complete Peerage VI:136-8, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    (c) He d. Thursday before, or Tuesday after, St. Andrew 2 Henry IV, according to the inquisitions taken in Northumberland and at Newcastle-on-Tyne, respectively. In 1398 he obtained the castle, manor, and lordship of Wark-on-Tweed from Ralph, Earl of Westmorland, in exchange for other manors. He, who was aged 10 in 1369, was son and heir of Sir Thomas Grey, of Heton (author of the "Scalacronica"), by Margaret, daughter and heir of William de Pressene, of Presson, Northumberland. The last-named Thomas, who d. shortly bef. Monday after St. Luke (22 Oct] 1369, had done homage to the Bishop of Durham, and had livery of the manor of Heton 10 Apr 1344. He was son and heir of Sir Thomas de Grey, of Heton in Islandshire, who d. shortly bef. 12 Mar 1343/4, by Agnes, his wife.

    Thomas married Joan (Jane) De MOWBRAY in 1st Husband. Joan (daughter of John de MOWBRAY and Elizabeth De SEGRAVE) was born about 1368 in Epworth, Isle Of Axholme, Lincolnshire, England; died after 30 Nov 1402. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  • 15.  Joan (Jane) De MOWBRAY was born about 1368 in Epworth, Isle Of Axholme, Lincolnshire, England (daughter of John de MOWBRAY and Elizabeth De SEGRAVE); died after 30 Nov 1402.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: L6T8-ZKL
    • _UID: C26DEEED26294403BF640BAB60F5C773088B

    Notes:

    Jane de Mowbray; m. Sir Thomas Gray of Wark. [Ancestral Roots]

    Joan de Mowbray; m. Sir Thomas Grey of Heaton, d. c 30 Nov 1400. [Magna Charta Sureties]

    Note: Sometimes it is hard to recognize that these two sources are talking about the same people.

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    Following copied from Dave Utzinger, World Connect db=utzing, rootsweb.com,
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    Said to be daughter of John de Mowbray and Elizabeth de Segrave. 4 sons & 1 daughter

    There are at least two sources which identity Thomas Gray's wife, Joan, as the daughter of John de Mowbray. The first source is the Visitation of the North taken c. 1480-1500 in which Joan is called "Ionetta filia Johannes Moubray." [Reference: Surtees Soc., 144 (1930): 53-54]. The visitation is one of the earliest visitations on record and one of the best in my opinion.

    The second source is the monumental inscription of Joan (Mowbray) Gray's son, Henry Gray, which reads as follows:
    "Here lyeth Syr Henry Grey, the sonne of Syre Thomas Grey, and Jone, hys wyf, that was systere to the Duke of Norfolk, that dyed at Venis." [Reference: Scott, Memorials of the Family of Scott (1876), p. 126
    footnote p].

    The Duke of Norfolk who died in Venice was Thomas Mowbray, Duke of Norfolk, who died there of pestilence in 1399. He was the son of John de Mowbray, 4th Lord Mowbray, and his wife, Elizabeth de Segrave.

    I trust that answers your question.

    Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

    Children:
    1. John GREY, Of Wark-On-Tweed, Kg, Sir was born after 1384 in Heaton Castle, Wark-On-Tweed, Northumberland, England; died on 22 Mar 1420-1421 in Battle Of Bauge, Anjou, France (Killed).
    2. 7. Maud GREY was born about 1386 in Heaton Castle, Wark-On-Tweed, Northumberland, England; died after 22 Aug 1451.


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