Beatrice De BRAOSE

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• Name: Beatrice De BREWES
• _UID: DC28C943563944B8B5324E4A6C4A7CCB17B5

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Beatrice de Brewes, daughter of 1st and last (no descendant of his was summoned to Parliament in this so-called peerage) Lord (Baron) Braouse/Brewes/Brewose. [Burke's Peerage]

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He [William de Say] married Beatrice, daughter and in her issue heir of Thomas (DE BREWES), LORD BREWES) by Beatrice, widow of Edward, son and heir apparent of Thomas (DE BROTHERTON), EARL OF NORFOLK, and daughter of Roger (DE MORTIMER), EARL OF MARCH. He died before 7 August 1375. [Complete Peerage XI:477, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Family/Spouse: William VII 3Rd Baron De SAY, Sir. William was born on 17 Jun 1340 in Birling, Malling, Kent, England; died before 7 Aug 1375 in Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. John 4Th Baron De SAY was born about 1373 in Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire, England; died on 27 Jul 1382.

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• Name: Thomas 1St\Last Baron De BREWES
• _UID: 79A2F286191E41D6BE861938A60A9FD79CB1

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1st and last (no descendant of his was summoned to Parliament in this so-called peerage) Lord (Baron) Braouse/Brewes/Brewose. [Burke's Peerage]

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Thomas (DE BREWES), LORD BREWES) m. Beatrice, widow of Edward, son and heir apparent of Thomas (DE BROTHERTON), EARL OF NORFOLK, and daughter of Roger (DE MORTIMER), EARL OF MARCH. [Complete Peerage XI:477, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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BARONY OF BREWOSE, BREOUSE, or BREWES (I)

Sir Thomas de BREWOSE or BREOUSE of Manningford Bruce, Wilts, Tetbury, co. Gloucester, Weaverthorpe, co. York, Chesworth, Sedgwick, and Bidlington, Sussex, Bookham and Bramley, Surrey, son and heir of Sir Piers DE BREWOSE, of Tetbury, by Agnes, widow of Sir Henry Husee of Harting, Sussex, etc. [died 27 August 1290], born 8 September 130I. He succeeded his father in 1311/2. He was summoned for Military Service, 27 March 1335 and 12 November 1342, to six Councils, 25 February 1341/2 to 10 October 1359, and to Parliament, 20 November 1348, by writs directed Thome de Breus, Brewes, or Brewosa, by which last named writ he is held to have become LORD BREWOSE, but none of his descendants were ever summoned to Parliament.

He married, circa August 1334, Beatrice, widow of Edward (s. and h. ap. of Thomas OF BROTHERTON), EARL OF NORFOLK), daughter of Roger (DE MORTIMER), EARL OF MARCH. by Joan, daughter and coheir, eventually heir, of Piers DE GENEVILLE, of Ludlow, Salop, 2nd but 1st surviving son and heir apparent of Geoffrey, 1st Lord Geneville. He died 9 or 16 June 1361. His widow died 16 October 1383. [Complete Peerage II:308, XIV:111, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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The following is a post-em from Curt Hofemann, [email protected]:

name: Thomas de Brewse of Tetbury [Ref: Paget p19]

His IPM reveals that both he and Mary, Countess of Norfolk had an interest in the same manor of Boseham, Sussex. Thomas de Brewes' wife, Beatrice de Mortimer, had received it as a gift for life from Thomas de Brotherton.

Beatrice and Thomas held two parts, and Mary held a third part in dower.
CIPM, v.XI, p.28
"THOMAS DE BREWOSA, or DE BREOUSA, or DE BREWES, knight SUSSEX.
Inq taken at Cicestre, 20 September, 35 Edward III [1361]
Boseham. Two parts of the manor, held in right of Beatrice his wife, who had the manor for her life by gift of Thomas de Brothertone, earl of Norfolk and Marshal of England. The whole manor is held of the king in chief by service of two knights' fees. The third part is in the hand of the countess Marshal by way of dower after the death of the earl Marshal her husband." [Ref: Rosie Bevan 28 Apr 2002 message to Gen-Medieval]

Regards,
Curt

Thomas married Beatrice De MORTIMER about Aug 1334 in 2ND Husband. Beatrice (daughter of Roger De MORTIMER, Sir/1St Earl Marche/8Th Baron and Joan De GENEVILLE, Lady) was born about 1318 in Wigmore, Ludlow, Herefordshire, England; died on 16 Oct 1383. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• _UID: 1B8F3549B58D40E2B7E35ECCD1D1FB1C098F

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Beatrice, widow of Edward, son and heir apparent of Thomas (DE BROTHERTON), EARL OF NORFOLK, and daughter of Roger (DE MORTIMER), EARL OF MARCH. [Complete Peerage XI:477, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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He [Thomas de Breworse or Breouse] married, circa August 1334, Beatrice, widow of Edward (s. and h. ap. of Thomas OF BROTHERTON), EARL OF NORFOLK), daughter of Roger (DE MORTIMER), EARL OF MARCH. by Joan, daughter and coheir, eventually heir, of Piers DE GENEVILLE, of Ludlow, Salop, 2nd but 1st surviving son and heir apparent of Geoffrey, 1st Lord Geneville. He died 9 or 16 June 1361. His widow died 16 October 1383. [Complete Peerage II:308, XIV:111, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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Piers married Agnes De CLIFFORD. Agnes was born about 1274 in Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England; died before 1332. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• _UID: B3A0D7EA0EDE4C24A2EAF957640FFB47019B

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• AFN: 9QF9-FM
• _UID: 2EE7C51E7B62486287598AE62AA5BCD52F36

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MISC: He was ISABELLA's (wife of Edward II) lover. She and her English lover, Roger Mortimer, Earl of March, plotted the overthrow and murder of Edward II in 1327.

OCCUPATION: Sir Roger, Baron de Mortimer, of Wigmore, created Earl of Marche, Oct 1328; executed for treason in 1330 (ALSO OF Royal Descent) 1st Earl of Marche.Roger Mortimer, 2nd Baron Mortimer, was summoned to Parliament 1306-1326. This nobleman, notorious in our histories as the paramour of Isabel, Queen Consort of Edward II, was in his sixteenth year at the death of his father. He married Jaone, daughter of Peter de Genville, Lord of Trim, in Ireland. In 34th of Edward I, about 1306, he received the honour of Knighthood. He aided in the Scottish wars, and in 3rd of Edward II, 1310, he was made Governor of the Castle of Buelt, and later was Lord Lieutenant of Ireland. During the latter part of Edward II's reign he attached himself to the Queen, and at length fled with her and Prince Edward to France. He later returned and was made Earl of March soon after the accession of Edward III. He hereupon became proud beyond measure (so that his son Geoffrey called him the King of Folly) and assumed royal authority. His career was not however of long continuance, for King Edward III, becoming sensible of his folly and vices, had him seized in the Castle of Queen Isabel in Nottingham and was convicted under various charges, the first was complicity in the murder of Edward II, and receiving sentence of death was hanged in 1330. He left by Joan de Geneville 4 sons and 7 daughters.

rootsweb poliksaDEATH: CAUSE Executed via hanging at command of Edward III.

Roger Mortimer, 2nd Baron Mortimer, of Wigmore, summoned to parliament from 22 February, 1306, to 3 December, 1326 (from the accession of Edward II in 1307, with the addition of "De Wigmore"). This nobleman, so notorious in our histories as the paramour of Isabel, queen consort of the unfortunate Edward II, was in his sixteenth year at the time of his father's decease and was placed by the king (Edward I) in ward with Piers Gaveston, so that, to redeem himself and for permission to marry whom he please, he was obliged to pay Gaveston 2500 marks, and thereupon m. Joane, dau. of Peter de Genevill, son of Geffrey de Genevill, Lord of Trim, in Ireland. In the 34th Edward I [1306], he received the honour of knighthood and in the same year attended the king into Scotland, where we find him again in the 3rd Edward II [1310], and the same year he was constituted governor of the castle of Buelt, in Brecknockshire. In the 7th, 8th, and 10th years, he was likewise in Scotland and was then appointed lord-lieutenant of Ireland. During the remainder of the unhappy Edward's reign he attached himself to the interests of the queen and, at length, fled with her and Prince Edward into France. Returning, however, and his party triumphing, he was advanced to the dignity of Earl of March soon after the accession of King Edward III and he held a round table the same year at Bedford. But hereupon becoming proud beyond measure (so that his own son, Geffrey, called him the King of Folly), he kept a round table of knights in Wales in imitation of King Arthur. "Other particulars," says Dugdale, "of his haughtiness and insolence were these, viz., that with Queen Isabel, he caused a parliament to be held at Northampton, where an unworthy agreement was made with the Scots and Ragman's Roll of Homage of Scotland was traitorously delivered as also the black cross which King Edward I brought into England out of the abbey of Scone and then accounted a precious relique. That (with the queen) he caused the young king to ride twenty-four miles in one night, toward Bedford, to destroy the Earl of Lancaster and his adherents, saying that they imagined the king's death. That he followed Queen Isabel to Nottingham and lodged in one house with her. That he commanded the treasure of the realm and assumed the authority which, by common consent in parliament, was conferred upon Henry, Earl of Lancaster, at the king's coronation." His career was not, however, of long continuance for, the king becoming sensible of his folly and vices, had him suddenly seized in the castle of Nottingham and conveyed prisoner to London, where, being impeached before parliament, he was convicted under various charges, the first of which was privity to the murder of King Edward II in Berkeley Castle, and receiving sentence of death, was hanged in 1330 at the common gallows, celled Elmes, near Smithfield, where his body was permitted to hang two days and two nights naked before it was interred in the Grey Friars; whence in some years afterwards it was removed to Wigmore.

The Earl of March left issue four sons and seven daus., viz., Edmund (Sir); Roger (Sir), who m., 1321, Lady Joane Butler; Geffrey (Sir), Lord of Towyth; John, slain in a tournament at Shrewsbury; Katherine, m. to Thomas de Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick; Joane, m. to James, Lord Audley; Agnes, m. to Laurence, Earl of Pembroke; Margaret, m. 1st, to Robert, 8th Earl of Oxford, and 2ndly, to Thomas (son and heir of Maurice), Lord Berkeley; Maud, m. to John de Cherlton, son and heir of John, Lord Powis; Blanch, m. to Peter de Grandison; Beatrix, m. 1st to Edward, son and heir of Thomas of Brotherton, Earl Marshal of England, and 2ndly, to Sir Thomas de Braose.

Upon the execution and attainder of the earl, all of his honours became forfeited. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage Ltd, London, England, 1883, p. 384, Mortimer, Barons Mortimer, of Wigmore, Earls of March]

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Roger married Joan De GENEVILLE, Lady before 6 Oct 1306 in Of Shropshire, England. Joan was born on 2 Feb 1285-1286 in Ludlow, Shropshire, ENG; died on 19 Oct 1356. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• AFN: 91QG-94
• _UID: 0DA16D59763B4592A2F199B079AB30B3DF44

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MISC: Also spelled JOINVILLE

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• FamilySearch ID: K2XK-VRX
• _UID: 44B65A8F3EC64E78B8D58B558B096FBCD926

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William was only 12 when his father died. The wardship of William and the de Braose lands were granted by Henry III to Peter des Rievaux. On his fall in 1234 these custodies were passed on to the king's brother Richard, Earl of Cornwall. When William came of age he took control of the Braose lands in Gower, Bramber and Tetbury. He confirmed the grants made by his father of the rents of cottages in Tetbury (they are still there) to the priory at Aconbury, founded in the memory of Maud de St Valery by her daughter Margaret.

He was plagued throughout his life by a series of legal battles over land rights with his female relatives.

See Cottages of Tetbury.


William de Braose, in the 41st Henry III [1257], when Llewellyn ap Griffith menaced the marches of Wales with a great army, was commanded by the king to defend his own marches about Gower, and the next year he had a military summons to attend the king Chester. In two years afterwards, he was again in arms under Roger de Mortimer against the Welsh, and was one of the barons who became pledged for King Henry, abiding the award of Louis, King of France. He d. in 1290, leaving by Isabel de Clare, his first wife, a son, William de Braose. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 72, Braose, Baron Braose, of Gower]

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Peter de Braose, half-brother of William, Lord Braose, of Gower. Peter's son, Thomas, was found heir to his grandmother, Mary de Ros (his grandfather, William de Braose's 2nd wife). [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage Ltd, London, England, 1883, p. 73, Braose, Barons Braose]

NOTE: From the above information it is certain which William de Braose was Peter's father, for only this one William was summoned to parliament as a baron. However, in attempting to connect Mary de Ros to William, there are some pretty glaring date inconsistencies. e.g., William died in 1290, and Mary wasn't born until around 1298. It's possible the approximated year of birth for Mary is somewhat off, but surely not that far off. According to Burke, her father, William de Ros, was b. 1255, thus, she could have been born as early as perhaps 1271. Her father d. in 1316, and her grandfather died 16 June, 1285. Her 2nd husband, Thomas of Brotherton, was born 1 June, 1300. Had she been born as early as 1271, she would have been 29 years older than her 2nd husband. It's almost as if there had been two separate individuals named Mary de Ros, yet Burke says "Mary m. 1st, to William Braose, and 2ndly, to Thomas de Brotherton, Duke of Norfolk."

William married Mary De ROS about 1271 in 3rd Wife. Mary was born about 1253 in Helmsley Castle, North Riding Yorkshire, England; died before 23 May 1326. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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