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Carney & Wehofer Family
Genealogy Pages
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 1508 - 1577 (69 years)
Generation: 1
| 1. | Roland MORGAN was born in 1508 in Machen, Gwynllwg, Monmouthshire, Wales (son of Thomas MORGAN and Elizabeth VAUGHAN); died in 1577 in Machen, Gwynllwg, Monmouthshire, Wales. Other Events:
- _UID: 83C95EEE0ECC49EFA14B68EDA6584B00343A
Family/Spouse: Blanch THOMAS. Blanch was born in 1512 in Tre-Owen, Wonastow, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in 1534 in Machen, Gwynllwg, Monmouthshire, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- Thomas MORGAN was born in 1534 in Machen, Gwynllwg, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in 1603 in Machen, Gwynllwg, Monmouthshire, Wales.
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Generation: 2
| 3. | Elizabeth VAUGHAN was born about 1486 in Porthaml, Talgarth, Breconshire, Wales (daughter of Roger VAUGHAN, Of Porthaml, Sir Knight and Elizabeth (Eleanor) SOMERSET); and died. Other Events:
- _UID: 3C539D6F3D3A42A9B2BAA20591D47AA6959A
Children:
- 1. Roland MORGAN was born in 1508 in Machen, Gwynllwg, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in 1577 in Machen, Gwynllwg, Monmouthshire, Wales.
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Generation: 3
| 6. | Roger VAUGHAN, Of Porthaml, Sir Knight was born about 1435 in Porthaml, Talgarth, Breconshire, Wales (son of Roger VAUGHAN, Of Tretwr, Sir Knight and Denise Verch THOMAS); died about 1500 in Porthaml, Talgarth, Breconshire, Wales. Other Events:
- _UID: 3AA76DFFBC4A418E98E8F15B75A4C05118EE
Notes:
Sir Roger Vaughan, Knight, of Talgarth and Portheme, son of Sir Roger Vaughan and Denise. [Magna Charta Sureties]
Roger married Elizabeth (Eleanor) SOMERSET after 1481 in 2ND Wife. Elizabeth was born about 1459 in Raglan Castle, Usk, Monmouthshire, Wales; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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| 7. | Elizabeth (Eleanor) SOMERSET was born about 1459 in Raglan Castle, Usk, Monmouthshire, Wales; and died. Other Events:
- _UID: AFF0E31CE2E74186B1DC96ED1342489F7A8D
Notes:
Elizabeth Somerset [daughter of Elizabeth Browne, d. between 20 April and 23 Oct 1565; married bef 1527, as his 2nd wife, Sir Henry Somerset, KG, Earl of Worcester, d. 26 Nov 1549, son of Charles Somerset, KG, Earl of Worcester and Elizabeth Herbert); married Sir Roger Vaughan, Knight, of Talgarth and Portheme, son of Sir Roger Vaughan and Denise. [Magna Charta Sureties]
Evidences to this point are adequate. Next 5 generations [starting with marriage of Elizabeth and Roger Vaughan] require further research and support. Neither Burke nor Jones says that Elizabeth Somerset married Sir Roger Vaughan, and Jones gives an entirely different wife. [Magna Charta Sureties]
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The above citation with comments from MCS indicates doubt as to this marriage, though they did publish the citation. Certainly I would agree that Roger in no way married the daughter of a 1527 marriage. However at least one source on World Connect (George F. Moyer, db=gfmjr13) has Roger's wife as Eleanor Somerset, illegitimate daughter of Sir Henry Somerset's grandfather, Henry Beaufort, Duke of Somerset by Joan Hill (note that Henry Somerset and Henry Beaufort, Duke of Somerset are similar names). The dates for this Eleanor or Elizabeth fit with her being a 2nd wife of Roger and mother of Elizabeth Vaughan, who was born about 5 years after 1st wife Jane/Joan Whitney's death. Roger seems to have been too minor of a noble to marry a Duke's legitimate daughter (or even the Earl of Worcester's legitimate daughter), but an illegitimate daughter, even of a Duke, would be more fitting.
Children:
- 3. Elizabeth VAUGHAN was born about 1486 in Porthaml, Talgarth, Breconshire, Wales; and died.
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Generation: 4
| 12. | Roger VAUGHAN, Of Tretwr, Sir Knight was born about 1410 in Tretwr, Llnfhngl Cwm Du, Breconshire, Wales (son of Roger VAUGHAN, Of Bredwardine, Sir Knight and Gwladus Verch DAFYDD); died in 1471 in Beheaded. Other Events:
- _UID: 3212E2841D1346568EF0E33A1E6427F6B089
Notes:
All people that have a death date for Roger, state that it is 1471, yet Royal Descents has Margaret Touchet marrying 2nd Richard Grey, Baron of Powis, who supposedly died 1466.
Roger married Denise Verch THOMAS in 1st Wife. Denise was born about 1416 in Tyle-Glas, Glasbury, Radnorshire, Wales; died before 1438. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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| 13. | Denise Verch THOMAS was born about 1416 in Tyle-Glas, Glasbury, Radnorshire, Wales; died before 1438. Other Events:
- _UID: E116FC3662684FD8898634F3029D3D87B367
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