Alianore TAILBOYS

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Family/Spouse: Hugh TYLNEY, Of Skirbeck & Boston, Sir. Hugh (son of Philip TILNEY, Of Boston, Sir and Isabel De THORPE) was born about 1436 in Boston, Lincolnshire, England; died in Deceased in Skirbeck, Lincolnshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Agnes TYLNEY was born about 1483 in Skirbeck, Lincolnshire, England; died in May 1545 in Lambeth, London, Middlesex, England; was buried on 31 May 1545 in Thetford Abbey, Norfolk, England.

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Sir Robert Tailboys (or Talboys), Knight, Lord Kyme, MP 1472, 1477-78, sheriff of Lincolnshire 1480, b. c 1451, d. 30 Jan 1494/5; m. Elizabeth, daughter of John Heron. There is no evidence that Elizabeth is daughter of Sir John Heron & his cousin Elizabeth Heron. [Ancestral Roots]

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BARONY OF KYME (VIII) 1472

SIR ROBERT TAILBOYS, of Kyme, son and heir, aged 40 at his mother's death in 1491. The attainder of his father was reversed in 1472, whereby his father's honours were restored to him, and he became dejure LORD KYME. M.P. for co. Lincoln, 1472 and January 1477/8. Sheriff of co. Lincoln, 1480. He married Elizabeth, daughter of Sir John HERON. He died 30 January 1494/5, and was buried in Kyme Priory. Will as Sir Robert Tailboys, of Redesdale and Kyme, Knight, dated 6 April 1493 and testament 16 November 1494, proved 19 June 1495. [Complete Peerage VII:361, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Robert married Elizabeth HERON. Elizabeth (daughter of John HERON, Of Ford, Sir Knight and Elizabeth HERON) was born about 1451 in Ford, Glendale, Northumberland, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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According to both Ancestral Roots & Magna Charta Sureties, probably referring to the citation by The Complete Peerage given below , there is no evidence that Elizabeth is daughter of Sir John Heron & Elizabeth Heron, whom I have as her parents. They do not state that she is not a daughter, just that there is no evidence; therefore I am placing her as their daughter, without evidence, based on numerous people in World Connect who have done so and the citation from CP.

Note: Elizabeth's father John Heron & Robert's father William Tailboys held Croydon Manor together, so there was a family connection.

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He [Robert Tailboys] married Elizabeth, daughter of Sir John HERON. He died 30 January 1494/5, and was buried in Kyme Priory. Will as Sir Robert Tailboys, of Redesdale and Kyme, Knight, dated 6 April 1493 and testament 16 November 1494, proved 19 June 1495. [Complete Peerage VII:361, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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Sir William Tailboys (or Talboys), Knight, son of 1st unkown wife (received none of the inheritance of Alice Stafford), Lord Kyme, knighted 19 Feb 1460/1, b. c 1415, beheaded 26 May 1464; m. Elizabeth Bonville, d. 14 Feb 1490/1, daughter of Sir William, Lord Bonville, KG, d. 1461 and (1) wife Margaret Grey. [Ancestral Roots]

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BARONY OF KYME (VII) 1444

SIR WILLIAM TAILBOYS, of Kyme, co. Lincoln, de jure LORD KYME, son and heir, born circa 1415, being aged 28 at his father's death. He had licence, 8 January 1444, for an oratory within his dwelling in the diocese of Lincoln. He is called the "King's esquire" 7 June 1444, when Harbottle Castle was restored to him. From 1441 onwards he was a justice of the Peace in Lincolnshire and in Northumberland. He supported Croyland Abbey in a dispute with Thomas Dacre concerning Whaplode. Here, and later, in official records, up to 1460, he is called "esquire," but, apparently in consequence of having inherited the castle and estate of Kyme, he was generally known as the "Earl of Kyme." He gave a release, 2 April 1446, as Lord of Reddesdale and of Kyme. In 1448 he and his servants were charged with many outrages in Lincolnshire, and he was imprisoned in the Marshalsea, his pardon being procured by the Duke of Suffolk, whose adherent. he was. On 10 October 1449 he was appointed a Commissioner in an inquiry in co. Lincoln. Later he was accused of having made an attempt to murder Ralph, Lord Cromwell, in the Star Chamber at Westminster on 28 November 1449. On 18 February 1458/9 be was appointed a Commissioner of Array in Lincolnshire and on 19 February 1460/1 was knighted at the battle of St. Albans, where, as at Towton on 29 March following, he fought on the Lancastrian side. On 14 May 1461 the new King, Edward IV, ordered Kyme and other manors of William Tailboys, knight, to be taken into his hand, the said William being a rebel and adherent of the King's enemies of France and Scotland. On 26 June following he took part in a Lancastrian assembly in Durham and in August was with Queen Margaret in Scotland. On 4 November 1461 he was attainted, whereby all his honours became forfeited. He was Captain of Alnwick Castle for Henry VI when it was besieged in July 1462, and surrendered it on condition of life and property being spared. He fought on the Lancastrian side at the battle of Hexham, 15 May 1464, and, escaping after the defeat, was captured in a coal pit near Newcastle (or in Redesdale, according to one account) towards the end of the month, and beheaded.

He married Elizabeth, daughter of William, LORD BONVILLE. He died at Newcastle-on-Tyne, circa 26 May 1464, and was buried in the Grey Friars at Newcastle. His widow, who was allowed one-third of his lands in December 1464, died 14 February 1490/1. [Complete Peerage VII:359-61, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

William married Elizabeth BONVILLE. Elizabeth (daughter of Baron William BONVILLE, Of Chewton, Kg, Sir and Margaret De GREY) was born about 1420 in Shute, Axminster, Devonshire, England; died on 14 Feb 1490-1491. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Elizabeth Bonville, d. 14 Feb 1490/1, daughter of Sir William, Lord Bonville, KG, d. 1461 and (1) wife Margaret Grey. [Ancestral Roots]

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He [William Tailboys] married Elizabeth, daughter of William, LORD BONVILLE. He died at Newcastle-on-Tyne, circa 26 May 1464, and was buried in the Grey Friars at Newcastle. His widow, who was allowed one-third of his lands in December 1464, died 14 February 1490/1. [Complete Peerage VII:359-61, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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Sir John Heron, Knight, son of William and Isabel (Scott) Heron, b. 1415/18, Sheriff of Northumberland 1440-1441, 1451-1452, 1456-57, slain at battle of Towton, 29 Mar 1461. [Ancestral Roots]

Note: WRONG! AR is using CP VI:488-489 as part of its source on this. If one reads CP, they say John was son of a different William Heron and Isabel (last name unknown). The William Heron AR refers to (who did m. Isabel Scott, and was Elizabeth's grandfather), d. 10 Nov 1400, while John's father William Heron, d. 20 Jan 1427/8. This misled me for some time.

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She [Elizabeth Heron] m. (disp. 11 July 1438) John, son of her guardian, William Heron aforesaid, by his wife Isabel. John was 10 or 13 years of age in 1428 and then in ward to the King. John and Elizabeth had livery of their lands in Northamptonshire and Elandshire from the Bishop of Durham in 140-41, and, having entered on the other lands of their inheritance without due livery, received the King's pardon in 1449. As "John Heron esq." he was appointed one of the Keepers of Bamborough Castle in 1438, assisting Sir William Elmedon, and in 1448 became sole Keeper on Elmedon's death; in 1459 John's son Roger became joint Keeper with him. He was thrice Sheriff of Northumberland, in 1440-41, 1451-52, and 1456-57. His authority in Redesdale is shown by a letter of apology addressed to him by the Prior of Durham in 1446; in 1455, as "Sir John Heron of Ford, kt.," he, with Robert Manners, "esq.," was thanked by the Privy Council for diligence in resisting the Scots' attack on Berwick. He filled many public offices in the district, being Commissioner of array, justice, &c., down to 1460. He fought on the Lancastrian side in the Wars of the Roses, and was slain at the battle of Towton, 29 March 1461. For having taken part in the execution of Richard, Duke of York, at Wakefield, 30 December 1460, he was attainted, and all his estates and dignities were forfeited, including the manor of Croydon, co. Cambridge, held by him jointly with William Tailboys. Robert Ogle was ordered to take possession of Ford Castle and to seize the body of Roger, Sir John's son and heir. [Complete Peerage VI:488-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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The following post by Chris Phillips to soc.genealogy.medieval indicates that CP is incorrect in its ancestry for John's father William. Instead of William (d. 1427/8), son of William, son of William (d. 1379), it is William (d. 1427/8), son of John (d. 1408), son of John, son of William (d. 1379) (ie. the middle William is replaced by two Johns).

From: Chris Phillips ([email protected])
Subject: CP correction: Heron
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2003-01-23 03:29:03 PST

I have placed some draft corrections to the Complete Peerage article on Heron at:
http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/HeronCorrections.shtml

These are the outcome of several months' discussion with Tony Ingham and Rosie Bevan.

I should make it clear that it was Tony who came up with the corrected genealogical scheme, and most of the supporting evidence from primary sources, and Rosie provided further evidence and discussion. I have tried to supplement the evidence from London sources as far as possible.

The main genealogical correction concerns the ancestry of John Heron (killed 1461), who married Elizabeth, daughter and heir of William Heron (d. 1425) (Sir William being the son of William (d. 1400), the son of Roger (d. by 1400), the eldest son of William (d. 1379)).

John was certainly the son of William Heron (killed 1427/8). CP identifies this William as a son of William, the second son of William Heron (d. 1379). But the evidence shows that he was in fact the son of John Heron (d. 1408), who was in all probability the son of John, the third son of William (d. 1379). (Just possibly John (d. 1408) was identical with William's son John, although this seems chronologically unlikely.)

Comments, criticisms and corrections will be welcomed.

Chris Phillips

John married Elizabeth HERON on 11 Jul 1438 in Dispensation Date. Elizabeth (daughter of William HERON, Of Croydon, Sir and Elizabeth (Anne) De OGLE) was born in 1422 in Croydon, Cambridgeshire, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Elizabeth Heron, b. 1422; m. her cousin, under dispensation, 11 July 1438, Sir John Heron, Knight, son of William and Isabel (Scott) Heron, b. 1415/18, Sheriff of Northumberland 1440-1441, 1451-1452, 1456-57, slain at battle of Towton, 29 Mar 1461. [Ancestral Roots]

No evidence that the Elizabeth Heron who m. Sir Robert Tailboys is their daughter. Hedley's "Northumberland Families" shows no daughter Elizabeth. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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5. ELIZABETH, daughter and heir, was 3 years of age at her father's death, and the Bishop of Durham granted her wardship and marriage to William Heron, of Ford, who was slain at Etal, near Ford, 20 January 1427/8. She married (dispensation 11 July 1438) John, son of her guardian, William HERON afsd., by his wife Isabel. John was 10 or 13 years of age in 1428 and then in ward to the King. John and Elizabeth had livery of their lands in Northamptonshire and Elandshire from the Bishop of Durham in 140-41, and, having entered on the other lands of their inheritance without due livery, received the King's pardon in 1449. As "John Heron esq." he was appointed one of the Keepers of Bamborough Castle in 1438, assisting Sir William Elmedon, and in 1448 became sole Keeper on Elmedon's death; in 1459 John's son Roger became joint Keeper with him. He was thrice Sheriff of Northumberland, in 1440-41, 1451-52, and 1456-57. His authority in Redesdale is shown by a letter of apology addressed to him by the Prior of Durham in 1446; in 1455, as "Sir John Heron of Ford, kt.," he, with Robert Manners, "esq.," was thanked by the Privy Council for diligence in resisting the Scots' attack on Berwick. He filled many public offices in the district, being Commissioner of array, justice, &c., down to 1460. He fought on the Lancastrian side in the Wars of the Roses, and was slain at the battle of Towton, 29 March 1461. For having taken part in the execution of Richard, Duke of York, at Wakefield, 30 December 1460, he was attainted, and all his estates and dignities were forfeited, including the manor of Croydon, co. Cambridge, held by him jointly with William Tailboys. Robert Ogle was ordered to take possession of Ford Castle and to seize the body of Roger, Sir John's son and heir. [Complete Peerage VI:488-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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Walter Tailboys (or Talboys), sheriff of Lincolnshire 1423, JP 1442-43, Lord Kyme, b. 1391, d. 13 Apr 1444; m. (1) unknown; m. (2) Alice, heiress of Stafford Earls of Devon, dead by 24 Apr 1448, widow of Sir Henry Cheyney, Knight, and daughter of Sir Humphrey Stafford. [Ancestral Roots]

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BARONY OF KYME (VI) 1417

WALTER TAILBOYS, DE JURE LORD KYME, son and heir, aged 26 in 1417. He was Sheriff of co. Lincoln in 1423. On the death of Sir Robert de Umfravillc (January 1436/7) he inherited the castle of Harbottle and the manor of Otterburn. Justice of the Peace, co. Lincoln, 1442-43. He married (? as 2nd wife), in or before 1432, Alice, widow of Sir Edmund CHEYNEY, knight, and daughter of Sir Humphrey STAFFORD, knight. He died intestate, 13 April 1444. Admonishment of his goods to his son "William Taylboys, esquire," 26 June 1444. She was dead by 24 April 1448. [Complete Peerage VII:358-9, XIV:420, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Walter married Alice STAFFORD, Heiress Of Hook & Southwick before 1432 in 2ND Husband, 2ND Wife. Alice (daughter of Humphrey STAFFORD, Of Hook & Southwick, Sir and Elizabeth MALTRAVERS, Heiress Of Hook) was born in 1391 in Hooke, Dorset, England; died before 24 Apr 1448 in Southwick, Westbury, Wiltshire, England; was buried in All Saints Churchyard, Westbury, Wiltshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Alice, heiress of Stafford Earls of Devon, dead by 24 Apr 1448, widow of Sir Henry Cheyney, Knight, and daughter of Sir Humphrey Stafford. [Ancestral Roots]

Note: Alice was widow of Edmond, not Henry Cheyney - see notes from Doug Gentile below.

Note: Burke's Peerage, p. 832, on the history of the Earldom of Devon, states "Subsequently a member of the Stafford family who were for a while Dukes of Buckingham (see Stafford, Baron) was created Earl of Devon in 1469 by Edward IV. On joining an uprising in the North of England, however, he was executed later the same year, having held the title exactly three months." This is the only Stafford Earl of Devon (the rest were almost all Courtenay family), which makes the "Earls" plural in the above citation from AR a little bit of an exageration. On p. 2680, Stafford, Baron, Burke's lists Humphrey Stafford, 1st Duke of Buckingham, b. 15 Aug 1402 (too late to be Alice's father), d. 10 July 1460. There were no Humphrey's listed before him and no one was listed who was Earl of Devon or died in 1469 (It is very small text with the 1st Duke's family going on for 2 long pages, and I have been known to miss things, but I did search thoroughly). Who the Humphrey cited above is or his relationship to the "Stafford Earls of Devon" or Dukes of Buckingham or Earls/Barons of Stafford is a mystery.

Subsequent Note: According to Doug Gentile, soc.genealogy.medieval newsgroup, in a 20 Oct 1999 posting, Humphrey's ancestry is:

1. Humphrey Stafford of Hooke, Knight, c1380-27 May 1442; m. Oct 1397
....Elizabeth Mautravers d, c1426, daughter & heir of Sir John Mautravers of Hooke. (I spell it Maltravers)

2. Humphrey Stafford of Southwick in North Bradley, Wiltshire, Knight, c1343-15 Oct 1413; m1. c1365
3. Alice Greville, b. c1345, daughter & heir of Sir John Greville of Southwick in North Bradley, Knight.
....m2. 1386-8, Elizabeth d'Aumarle, 2nd daughter & coheir of Sir William d'Aumarle of Woodbury, Knight

4. Sir John Stafford of Bramshall, Knight, c1302-c Aug 1373, m1. c1327
....Elizabeth Somerville, c1320-1341, daughter and coheir of Sir Philip Somerville of Wychnor, c1278-1355
5. m2. c1342 Margaret Stafford, daughter of Ralph Stafford, 1st Earl Stafford, 1301-1372.

Note: Doug Gentile states that Alice had children by Edmund (NOT Henry) Cheyney of Brook in Westbury, Knight, 1401-1430; and that she was the de facto eventual heiress of Humphrey, even though he had 4 sons and 2 daughters. One of the sons, William, had a son Humphrey, who became Earl of Devon 7 May 1469. but dsp.

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Sir William Bonville, KG, b. 13 Aug 1393, beheaded 18 Feb 1460/1, Lord Bonville, sheriff of Devon, Seneschal of Aquitaine; m. (1) c 12 Dec 1414 Margaret Grey, daughter of Reginald, 3rd Lord Grey, of Ruthyn, co. Denbigh, by Margaret Ros; m. (2) c 9 Oct 1427, Elizabeth, d. 1471, widow of John, Lord Harrington, and daughter of Edward Courtenay, Earl of Devon, by Maud, daughter of Thomas Camoys. [Ancestral Roots]

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1st Lord (Baron) Bonville, so created by writ of summons to Parliament 10 March 1448/9). [Burke's Peerage]

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BARONY OF BONVILLE (I)

William Bonville, of Chewton, Somerset, son and heir, of John Bonville, by Elizabeth, daughter and heir of John Fitz Roger, of Chewton aforesaid, was b. at Shute, near Colyton, co. Devon, 20 Aug 1393, succeeded his grandfather, Sir William Bonville, of Shute, 14 Feb 1407/8 (who had m. Alice (Inq.p.m. 1425-6), and survived John Bonville, abovenamed, his son and heir apparent), and succeeded his mother in the lands of Chewton, etc., 15 Apr 1414. He was knighted before 1417. Seneschal of Aquitaine 7 Jan 1442/3, for 12 months. From 10 Mar 1448/9 to 30 July 1460, he was summoned to Parliament by writs directed (mostly) "Willelmo Bonville domino Bonville et de Chuton", whereby he is held to have become Lord Bonville. Nominated KG 8 Feb 1460/1, at a Chapter held at the Bishop of London's Palace, near St. Paul's. Having joined the fortunes of the House of York, he was, after the Lancastrian victory at St. Albans, 17 Feb 1460/1, executed the next day, by order of Margaret, the Queen Consort, in spite of a promise of safety from the King.

He m. 1stly Margaret (who was living 15 Kal. May 1426). He m. 2ndly "per verba presenti, nontamen in facie ecclesie" (bull confirming the marriage 9 Oct 1427), Elizabeth, widow of John, Lord Harington (who d. 11 Feb 1417/8), daughter of Edward (Courtenay), Earl of Devon, by Maud, daughter of Thomas Camoys. He d. aged 67, being beheaded as aforesaid, 18 Feb 1460/1, but never attainted, as within 3 weeks of his death the Yorkist King was enthroned. Inq.p.m. 1 Edward IV. Admon. 17 July 1461 at Lambeth. His widow, for her husband's services, was assigned a large dower. She dsp 18 Oct 1471, Inq.p.m. 11 Edward IV. [Complete Peerage II:218-9]

William married Margaret De GREY about 1418 in Chewton, Somerset, England. Margaret (daughter of Reginald DE GREY and Margaret De ROS) was born in 1395 in Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales; died after 15 May 1426; was buried after 15 May 1426. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Margaret Grey, daughter of Reginald, 3rd Lord Grey, of Ruthyn, co. Denbigh, by Margaret Ros. [Ancestral Roots]