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Carney & Wehofer Family
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1869 - Yes, date unknown
Generation: 1
Generation: 2
2. | Alfred B THOMPSON was born in 1843 in Butler, Choctaw Co, Alabama; died on 30 Mar 1918 in Buried At MT Carmel, Cordova, Walker Co, AL. Other Events:
- _UID: 5E0B43A0969D4FC1AC98B96817586D71418A
Notes:
Alfred B. Thompson was a private in Co,. "D", 40th AL Reg't. He enlisted in
1861 at Choctaw County, Butler, AL and was discharged in 1865. He was
60 yrs. old when he signed his pension application on July 23, 1902.
Evidently he married a second time after his first wife died, because on Apr.
5, 1918, S. E. Thompson filed for a Widows Pension. This marriage record
can probably be found in Walker Co, AL.
A. B. Thompson and Louisa Thompson were members of the Methodist Church, Pleasant Valley now Pleasant Hill, in 1874
located in Choctaw Co, Al.
SEE "OUR FAMILY LINEAGE, BY EDITH O DOGGETT AND I J OATES", P 266-67. HOOLE U AL
Information from notebook of Alice Baker, my grandmother
Lived in Selma before moving to Fayette, Co, AL
This Family found on the 1870 Choctaw Co, Al Census, Butler P. O., family #352 Township 11
Alfred Thompson 28 AL
Louisa 24 AL
Henry 3 AL
Harrison 1 AL
See my saved image of this page.
1880 Choctaw Co AL Census Butler P O HH 183
BUTLER CIRCUIT, DEMOPOLIS DISTRICT
METHODIST EPISCOPAL CHURCH SOUTH
Some 1874 members
Hazel R. Collins Ivison collected this information which appeared in Confederate Echoes, November 1965, issued by Dorothy Ivison Moffett, Mobile.
I found this publication in the Mobile Public Library, copied it, & brought it home. After re-typing some of the lists, the "magic machine" alphabetized all the names for us.
Ivison had the members under male and female headings. I have identified the female members whose first names were initials only by adding (female).
Some of these churches are disbanded, or have changed their names, This is our best guess as to the area they were located in in 1874.
"Out at New Hope Church near Dicks' mill" was in The Choctaw County News, September 19, 1878. The Putnam Dicks family lived at Chappell Hill, near Christopher Chapel Church, or present day Jachin.
Thompson, A. B.---- Pleasant Valley
Thompson, Annie---- Pleasant Valley
Thompson, F. G.---- Pleasant Valley
Thompson, F. T?---- Sharon
Thompson, J. R. ----Pleasant Valley
Thompson, L. (female)---- Pleasant Valley
Thompson, Louiza---- Pleasant Valley
Thompson, Sarah---- Brightwater
Alfred married Louiza Jane CARNEY on 2 Aug 1865 in Butler, Choctaw Co, AL Rev. D W Write Or Wright Officiating. Louiza (daughter of Harmon M CARNEY and Lidda P CARR) was born in 1845 in Choctaw County, Alabama; died on 4 Nov 1906 in Buried At MT Carmel, Cordova, Walker Co, AL. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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3. | Louiza Jane CARNEY was born in 1845 in Choctaw County, Alabama (daughter of Harmon M CARNEY and Lidda P CARR); died on 4 Nov 1906 in Buried At MT Carmel, Cordova, Walker Co, AL. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: L144-J6Q
- _UID: B44B0E1454814420BCCD5F77432E622DB93F
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Generation: 3
6. | Harmon M CARNEY was born in 1824 in Clarke County, Mississippi (son of John "Jack" CARNEY and Mary Ann SIMMONS); died after 1880 in Choctaw County, Alabama. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: LZNH-L4T
- Name: Bud CARNEY
- _UID: C37A973EAAE84515BA8F116F029B47A95477
- Alt. Death: 26 Apr 1893, Lusk, Choctaw, Alabama
Notes:
Harmon and Lydia's marriage recorded in Lawrence Co MS
Mississippi Marriages, 1826-1900
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CARNEY, HARMON M.
Spouse: CARR, LYDIA Marriage Date: 29 Jan 1837
County: Lawrence State: MS
Harmon is found in the 1850 Choctaw Co AL Census as follows:
H. Carney 26 MS
Lidda P. 28 MS
Wm 11 MS
Catherine 9 MS
Jesse 6 AL
Louisa 5 AL
Harmon 3 AL
Mary Jane 1 AL
1860 Choctaw Co AL Census
Harmon Carna 46 MS (notice the spelling in this census "Carna" HH #342 Bladen Springs Townships 9, 10, 11, 12
Lidia 30 MS
Alzeda C 20 MS
Jesse 18 AL
Louisa 15 AL
Harrison 13 AL (harmon)
Mary J 11 AL
John 8 AL
Duncan 6 AL
Gabriel H 3 AL
See my saved image of this census
1870 Choctaw Co AL Census HH 334 Butler Township 11
Harmon Carney 56 MS
Lydia 54 AL
John 19 AL
Duncan 16 AL
Gabriel 13 AL
Martha 10 AL
See my saved view of this image
Harmon and Lydia listed in the 1880 Choctaw Co, Al Census as follows:
#152 Harmon Carney 64 MS TN TN (mistake in age)
Lydia 56 MS US US
Martha 18 AL
These Carney were listed as going to these churches in Choctaw Co AL 1874
Carney, Duncan ----Pleasant Valley
Carney, George H. ----Brightwater
Carney, H. ----Pleasant Valley
Carney, Harman Jr. ----Pleasant Valley
Carney, Harriet---- Brightwater
Carney, John---- Pleasant Valley
Carney, Lidea---- Pleasant Valley
Carney, Margret---- Pleasant Valley
Carney, Sarah ----Brightwater
Carney, Susan ----Brightwater
1n 1844, Harmon acquried 80 acres of land in Lawerence Co MS as follows:
CARNEY, HARMON
Land Office: WASHINGTON Sequence #:
Document Number: 5864 Total Acres: 80
Misc. Doc. Nr.: Signature: Yes
Canceled Document: No Issue Date: May 07, 1844
Mineral Rights Reserved: No Metes and Bounds: No
Survey Date: Statutory Reference: 3 Stat. 566
Multiple Warantee Names: No Act or Treaty: April 24, 1820
Multiple Patentee Names: No Entry Classification: Sale-Cash Entries
Accession/Serial #: MS0470__.009 BLM Serial #: MS NO S/N
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Patent Description Legal Land Description Document Image Certified Copy
Aliquot
Parts Sec./
Block Township Range Fract.
Section Meridian State Counties Survey
Nr.
5 16/ 5-N 12-E No Washington MS Lawrence
10 16/ 5-N 12-E No Washington MS Lawrence
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In June 1, 1860. Harmon Carney acquire 240 acres of land in Choctaw Co AL, as follows:
http://www.glorecords.blm.gov/PatentSearch/Detail.asp?
Accession=AL1560%5F%5F%2E211&Index=1&QryID=47321%2E84&DetailTab=2
CARNEY, HARMON
Land Office: ST STEPHENS Sequence #:
Document Number: 15846 Total Acres: 240
Misc. Doc. Nr.: Signature: Yes
Canceled Document: No Issue Date: June 01, 1860
Mineral Rights Reserved: No Metes and Bounds: No
Survey Date: Statutory Reference: 3 Stat. 566
Multiple Warantee Names: No Act or Treaty: April 24, 1820
Multiple Patentee Names: No Entry Classification: Sale-Cash Entries
Aliquot
Parts Sec./
Block Township Range Fract.
Section Meridian State Counties Survey
Nr. W?SW 11/ 11-N 3-W No St Stephens AL Choctaw S?NW 11/ 11-N 3-W No St Stephens AL Choctaw NENW 11/ 11-N 3-W No St Stephens AL Choctaw SWNE 11/ 11-N 3-W No St Stephens AL Choctaw
Legal Land Description:
# Aliquot Parts Block # Base Line Fractional Section Township Range Section #
1 W?SW ST STEPHENS No 11N 3W 11
2 S?NW ST STEPHENS No 11N 3W 11
3 NENW ST STEPHENS No 11N 3W 11
4 SWNE ST STEPHENS No 11N 3W 11
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1 5 WASHINGTON No 5N 12E 16
2 1 WASHINGTON No 5N 12E 16
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1860 United States Federal Census
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Carna, Harmon View Image Online
State: Alabama Year: 1860
County: Choctaw Roll: M653_5
Township: Townships 9, 10, 11, 12 Page: 431
Image: 434
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Carna, Hiram View Image Online
State: Alabama Year: 1860
County: Choctaw Roll: M653_5
Township: Townships 9, 10, 11, 12 Page: 447
Image: 450
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Carna, William J. View Image Online
State: Alabama Year: 1860
County: Choctaw Roll: M653_5
Township: Townships 9, 10, 11, 12 Page: 431
Image: 434
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Harmon married Lidda P CARR on 29 Jan 1837 in Lawrence Co, MS. Lidda was born between 1821 and 1822 in Mississippi; died after 1880 in Choctaw County, Alabama. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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7. | Lidda P CARR was born between 1821 and 1822 in Mississippi; died after 1880 in Choctaw County, Alabama. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: LZNH-L5J
- _UID: B15339B6815D47C791F847ACEE8AFACC9985
Children:
- William J CARNEY was born in 1839 in Mississippi; and died.
- Alzeda Catherine CARNEY was born in 1841 in Mississippi; and died.
- Jesse CARNEY was born in 1844 in Choctaw County, Alabama; and died.
- 3. Louiza Jane CARNEY was born in 1845 in Choctaw County, Alabama; died on 4 Nov 1906 in Buried At MT Carmel, Cordova, Walker Co, AL.
- Harmon CARNEY was born in 1847 in Choctaw County, Alabama; died after 1890.
- Mary Jane CARNEY was born in 1849 in Choctaw County, Alabama; and died.
- John James CARNEY was born on 7 Aug 1852 in Choctaw County, Alabama; died in 1888; was buried in Pleasant Hill Cem, Red Springs Rd, Choctaw Co, AL.
- Duncan CARNEY was born in 1854 in Choctaw County, Alabama; and died.
- Gabriel CARNEY was born on 31 Mar 1858 in Choctaw County, Alabama; died in Mar 1933 in New Orleans, Orleans, Louisiana.
- Martha Emily CARNEY was born on 24 Jan 1860 in Choctaw County, Alabama; and died.
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Generation: 4
12. | John "Jack" CARNEY was born in 1795 in NC Or Tennessee (Borders Moved 1790) (son of John CARNEY and Ann); died in 1865 in Mississippi; was buried in Birdsong Cemetary, Choctaw Co., Alabama. Other Events:
- Fact 1: Fact 1
- FamilySearch ID: LCZC-9GB
- Name: Jack
- _UID: 76F6C9CC6C214F429AE21B39B0034511F828
- Alt. Birth: Abt 1795; Alt. Birth
- Residence: 1850, Choctaw county, Choctaw, Alabama
- Residence: 1860, Pine Woods District, Catahoula, Louisiana
- Alt. Death: WFT Est 1821-1886; Alt. Death
Notes:
He lived first in MS, moved to AL, changed his name to Jack presumeably to prevent confusion, and moved back to MS. Buried 18 miles north of Alexandria, LA (according to one researcher)
1818 MS State Census Lawrence Co, JOHN CARNEY Jun.-1 male over 21, 1male under 21, 1 female over 21
JESSE SIMMONDS - 1 male over 21, 5 males under 21, 1 female over 21, and 2 females under 21. - 6 slaves
John Carney and Mary Ann Simmons were married in Maury Co,., TN, in 1815. Jesse Simmons' will lists one of his daughters as "Mary the wife of John Carney". John Carney signed for her share, Oct 27, 1832, in Lawrence Co, MS
1820 Lawrence Co, MS Census
John Carney: 1 m(16-26), 1 m(0-10)/ 1 f(16-26), 1 f(0-10)[TWP 7]
1830 Marion Co, MS Census
Carney, John, Jr. - 2 m(0-5); 1 m(5-10); 1 m(10-20); 1 m(20-40);/ 1
f(0-10); 1 f(10-20); 1 f(20-40)
John Carney on 1835 Lauderdale Co, MS Tax Roll (now in Lauderdale Co, MS)
1840 Lauderdale Co, MS Census, page 59
Jno Kearney - 2m(5-10), 1m(10-15), 1m(15-20), 1m(50-60)/ 2f(0-5), (The name is spelled Kearney here, but back to Carney later) 1f(40-50)
Harmon is next door as follows:
Harmon Kearney - 1m(0-5), 1m(20-30)/ 1f(16-26)
There is a John Carney listed on the 1840 Sumter Co Al Census also (Choctaw Co was previously part of Sumter). He is on the same page as Joel P Thompson.
John Carney 1840 Sumter Co AL
This family found in the 1850 Choctaw County Alabama Census.
1850 Choctaw Co, AL Census
John Carney 55 NC Planter HH 100
Mary A. 50 NC
Riley 22 MS
Hiram 17 MS
Mary A. 14 MS
Louisa 12 MS
Houston 6 MS
James L. 3 MS
H. Carney 26 MS
Lidda P. 28 MS
Wm 11 MS
Catherine 9 MS
Jesse 6 AL
Louisa 5 AL
Harmon 3 AL
Mary Jane 1 AL
An interesting fact is that in the 1850 Sumter County Alabama Census, there is a John Kearney listed. Choctaw County was previously part of Sumter County. This John Kearney lived near John Carney and Mary A Simmons. This John Kearney states that he was born in Ireland. It appears that his mother-in-law is also listed, as follows:
1850 Sumter Co,. AL Census
John Kearney 33 M Ireland (born 1817)
Hulda 33 F Alabama
Michael 1 M Alabama
Nancy Nucum 55 F North Carolina (Could be Mother-in-law)
Family is found again in Catahoula Parish:
http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/la/catahoula/census/1860/
This takes you to 1860 - Look down the list - click on - 0549.GIF
p. 123
Catahoula Parish LA 1860
John Carney 65 NC
Mary 64 NC
Houston 18 AL
James 14 AL
(Doris Kennedy kindly referred me to this information)
Other Sources: Over 500 pages of Notes, Records and Files at the Carney DNA Project Jim Carney www.avocadoridge.com/jim March 2010
Fact 1:
John Carney and Jesse P. Wallace lived 4 households apart in 1850
Alt. Birth:
Noth Carolina
John married Mary Ann SIMMONS on 1 Nov 1815 in Maury County, Tennessee. Mary (daughter of Jesse SIMMONS and Charity BUTTS) was born about 1800 in North Carolina; died on 14 Aug 1874; was buried in Black Creek Church Daleville, , Mississippi. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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13. | Mary Ann SIMMONS was born about 1800 in North Carolina (daughter of Jesse SIMMONS and Charity BUTTS); died on 14 Aug 1874; was buried in Black Creek Church Daleville, , Mississippi. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: LXWW-LXD
- _UID: 8C571A21FC1A45109AEB149DDAB5E2A8D8DB
- Residence: 1850, Choctaw county, Choctaw, Alabama
- Residence: 1860, Pine Woods District, Catahoula, Louisiana
Notes:
John Carneyb. 1795 and wife Mary Ann Simmons in a Louisiana census. What were they doing there? Catahoula County...Pine Woods 1860?....
Notes:
Alt. Marriage:
Maury County, Tennessee
Children:
- 6. Harmon M CARNEY was born in 1824 in Clarke County, Mississippi; died after 1880 in Choctaw County, Alabama.
- John CARNEY was born on 17 May 1827 in Mississippi; died on 3 Jul 1895 in Needham, Choctaw Co, Alabama; was buried in Brightwater Cemetary, Choctaw Co, AL..
- Wriley CARNEY was born in 1828 in Mississippi; and died.
- King Hiram CARNEY was born in 1833 in Mississippi; and died.
- Mary Ann CARNEY was born on 15 May 1835 in Mississippi; and died.
- Louisa Jane CARNEY was born in 1838 in Mississippi Or Georgia; and died.
- Houston CARNEY was born in 1844 in Mississippi; and died.
- James S CARNEY was born in 1847 in Washington, Alabama; and died.
- Henry Clay CARNEY was born in 1850 in Tennessee; and died.
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