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Carney & Wehofer Family
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Aft 1565 - Yes, date unknown
Generation: 1
Generation: 2
2. | Sir Bernard Barnaby "Ray" ROGERS was born in 1543 in Wittenberg, Saxony, Sachsen, Prussia (son of Rev. John ROGERS and Adriana De Wyden PRATT); died on 8 Jul 1587 in Bath, Somerset, England. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: LTFW-72X
- Name: Bernard Fitz ROGERS
- Name: Bernard FITZ ROGERS
- Name: Ray
- _UID: 14F78536E856432481BE2DAAFCE8588441A7
Notes:
"Bernard Rogers, b. 1543-at Wittenburg, Saxony; who after receiving some education in Germany & upon reaching maturity, also returned to England, went to the northern part there of and finally crossed the border into Scotland & got his wife, where he is alleged to have temporarily settled and m. ab. 1564, N.N. (q.v.); and had known issue of a son Thomas Matthew--called after the nom de plune used by the Martyr in publishing the "Byble" (Rogers family traditions, corroborated by research of W. L. Underwood--when Consul, at Glasgow, Scotland; and by Dr. Wm. Byrd Rogers of Virginia--though he thought that the middle name, Matthew, might have come from the Furneaux ancestor; however, it is of little moment how he got the name--the main thing being that such a man lived."
(by John Cox Underwood-published in 1911)
There are those that believe that Bernard died on: 11 Novemeber 1563 in St Dunstan in the West, City of London ("England Deaths and Burials, 1538-1991," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JDHZ-22W : 10 February 2018), Barnard Rogers, burial 11 Nov 1563; citing St. Dunstan-In-The-West, London, England, index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 396,193.), the same parish that his brother, Ambrose, lived in, and that he never married or had children. And that his name was used in conjunction with Thomas Matthew as part of a fraudulent scheme in the 1900's to connect people with money, to a pedigree with Bernard's father, John Rogers the 1555 martyr.
Here is a link everyone might want to read, where more information can be obtained.
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Rogers-136
Bernard married Mary "Matilda" LEETE on 18 Oct 1562 in Purton, Wiltshire, England. Mary (daughter of Sir John William LEETE and Flora "Flower" BROWN) was born on 11 Feb 1542 in Chelmsford, Essex, England; died on 15 Apr 1600 in Chelmsford, Essex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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Generation: 3
4. | Rev. John ROGERS was born on 4 Feb 1507 in Deritend, Aston, Warwickshire, England; was christened on 4 Feb 1507 in Deritend, Warwickshire, England (son of Thomas John ROGERS, Jr. and Margaret (Margery) WYATT); died on 4 Feb 1554 in Smithfield, England; was buried on 6 Feb 1555 in Marian Martyrs' Monument Smithfield, City of London, Greater London, England. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: L5K5-WDY
- Life Sketch: ; My 13th Great Grandfather, Reverend John “The Martyr” Rogers Jr. (February 4th 1507-February 4th 1555), who translated and published the first completed English version of the Christian Bible in 1537, under the pseudonym of Thomas Matthews, commonly know
- Note: ; 1st Protestant burnt on the stake under Queen "Bloody" Mary I
- Name: John "The Martyr" ROGERS
- _UID: 87936CEE8C7C458D9C816F3ACC403664BA79
- Note 1: 1525, Graduated from Cambridge
- Martyrdom: 4 Feb 1555, Smithfield, London, England, United Kingdom; Burned to death under Queen Mary's persecutions of Protestants
Notes:
Wrote under the pseudonym of Thomas Matthews and wrote the first English Protestant translation of the Bible, Matthews Bible, for which he was burned at the stake in Smithfield, England in 1555, with his eleven children watching. Took Roman Catholic Orders 1526 after leaving Cambridge - before becoming involved in the Protestant Reformation.
Died:
He was Martyred at Smithfield.
John married Adriana De Wyden PRATT in 1536 in Antwerp, Brabant, Belgium. Adriana (daughter of De Weyden PRATT and Joan Van METEREN) was born in 1511 in Brabant, Antwerp, Belgium; died on 8 Aug 1572 in Smithfield, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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5. | Adriana De Wyden PRATT was born in 1511 in Brabant, Antwerp, Belgium (daughter of De Weyden PRATT and Joan Van METEREN); died on 8 Aug 1572 in Smithfield, England. Other Events:
- AKA: Adriana Alids De Weyden
- FamilySearch ID: 99S4-39J
- _UID: 514C218F0E544CD1857567D8E3CD2C15F687
Notes:
Alias: Alide or Alids de Weyden /Pratt/
Children:
- Susan ROGERS was born in Jan 1532 in Brabant, Antwerp, Belgium; and died.
- John ROGERS was born on 21 Nov 1538 in Wittenberg, Saxony, Sachsen, Prussia; died on 3 Jul 1601 in Chelmsford, Essex, England; was buried in Chelmsford, Essex, England.
- Daniel ROGERS was born in 1540 in Wittenberg, Saxony, Sachsen, Prussia; died on 11 Jan 1590.
- Ambrose ROGERS was born in 1541 in Wittenberg, Saxony, Sachsen, Prussia; and died.
- 2. Sir Bernard Barnaby "Ray" ROGERS was born in 1543 in Wittenberg, Saxony, Sachsen, Prussia; died on 8 Jul 1587 in Bath, Somerset, England.
- Samuel ROGERS was born in 1545 in Wittenberg, Sachsen, Germany; and died.
- Philip ROGERS was born in 1547 in Wittenberg, Sachsen, Germany; and died.
- Augustine ROGERS was born in 1550 in London, Middlesex, England; and died.
- Beverly ROGERS was born in 1552 in London, Middlesex, England; and died.
- Elizabeth ROGERS was born in 1553 in London, Middlesex, England; and died.
- Hester ROGERS was born in 1555 in London, Middlesex, England; and died.
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6. | Sir John William LEETE was born on 1 May 1525 in Eversden, Cambridgeshire, England; died on 29 Jun 1560 in Cambridge, Cambridgeshire, England. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GJMJ-QJY
- _UID: C16CDDC6A8714606A26F0ACF6C4FBDA83F54
John married Flora "Flower" BROWN in 1545 in Melbourne, Derbyshire, England. Flora was born on 4 Feb 1520 in York, East Riding, Yorkshire, England; died on 25 Apr 1580 in Kingston, Cambridgeshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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7. | Flora "Flower" BROWN was born on 4 Feb 1520 in York, East Riding, Yorkshire, England; died on 25 Apr 1580 in Kingston, Cambridgeshire, England. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GJMN-T6T
- _UID: B0567DCBD8B64869BA6E2157679AD7A1A6A6
Children:
- 3. Mary "Matilda" LEETE was born on 11 Feb 1542 in Chelmsford, Essex, England; died on 15 Apr 1600 in Chelmsford, Essex, England.
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Generation: 4
8. | Thomas John ROGERS, Jr. was born in 1485 in Deritend, Aston, Warwickshire, England (son of Thomas John ROGERS, Sr. and Catherine COURTENAY); died on 10 Mar 1537 in Aston, Warwickshire, England; was buried in 1541 in Aston, Warwickshire, England. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: LLQD-ZP1
- Name: Rogers of Deritend
- Occupation: Deritend, Birmingham (Warwickshire), England; Lorimer (a person who made bits, spurs, and other small metal objects)
- _UID: 2C3D69C0B029429F86159CAB128BAF75EF7D
Notes:
Per pedigree of: "John Rogers of Derytend in the parish of Aston Com. Warwick":
John Rogers, Lorimer (a person who made bits, spurs, and other small metal objects) of Deritend - Birth: about 1487 Died: December 1540
Immediate Family: Son of John Rogers, of Sutton Valence, Kent, England
Brother: Nicholas Rogers
Wife: Margaret Wyatt, daughter of prominent tanner in Deritend
here are two Margaret Wyatts that are being confused. This one was the daughter of a Deritend tanner named John Wyatt. She married John Rogers a lorimer in Deritend. The other Margaret Wyatt was born the daughter of Henry Wyatt lived in a castle and married Sir Anthony Lee. They were not the same person.
Children: John Rogers, 1555 martyr (married Adriana de Weyden), William Rogers (died prior to 1540), Eleanor Rogers (married Robert Malward), Joan Rogers (married Baldwin Broke), Edward Rogers
Settled in Deritend, Aston, Birmingham, Warwick
Also called "John Rogers of Birmingham"
Left a Will made in December 1540, proved at Litchfield 25 December 1541
It appears that Thomas Rogers of Bradford and his second wife, Katherine de Courtnay, had a son known as "John Rogers of Sutton Valence in Kent". The Will of Katherine de Courtenay makes it clear that John and William Rogers were not her sons, but children of of her second husband, Thomas Rogers of Bradford. From the Visitations he (John Rogers of Sutton Valence in Kent) is noted as having had a son referred to as "John Rogers of Sutton Valence", who married a "Miss Coppinger" and he had a son named "Ralph Rogers." His son "John Rogers of Sutton Valence" left a Will and died in 1528.
According to the professionals that I talked to, the coat of arms of John Rogers of Deritend's family and the coat of arms used by Thomas Rogers of Bradford seem to indicate that they are of the same family.....it is just being a little difficult to figure how it fits together. The only sons of Thomas Rogers of Bradford that I can find reference to are the two he had with his first wife, Cecily Bessil, William and John Rogers of Sutton Valence in Kent, and George the only child that Thomas had with his second wife, Katherine de Courtenay.
According to the 4 pedigree of Thomas Rogers of Bradford, it appears that he and his second wife, Katherine de Courtenay, had a son known in pedigrees #4 and #2 as "John Rogers of Sutton Valence in Kent". The Will of Katherine de Courtenay makes it clear that John and William Rogers were not her sons, but children of of her second husband, Thomas Rogers of Bradford. This "John Rogers of Sutton, the second", was the son of that "John Rogers of Sutton Valence in Kent". He married a Miss Coppinger and had a son named Ralph. He left a Will in August of 1528 which was proved in January of 1528/9.
This could not have been the John Rogers of Deritend, as he left a Will in Deritend in the year 1540
The person on the top of the family pedigree for John Rogers, 1555 martyr is a man recorded as: ....Rogers of "Sutton Vallens in Kent." I am hoping to find more clarification as to exactly who was the father to John Rogers of Deritend the father of John Rogers 1555 martyr.
Thomas married Margaret (Margery) WYATT in 1505 in Deritend, Aston, Warwickshire, England. Margaret (daughter of Sir Henry WYATT and Anne SKINNER) was born in 1490 in Allington Castle, Boxley, Kent, England; died in 1540 in Dorset, Dorsetshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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9. | Margaret (Margery) WYATT was born in 1490 in Allington Castle, Boxley, Kent, England (daughter of Sir Henry WYATT and Anne SKINNER); died in 1540 in Dorset, Dorsetshire, England. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: G6CV-KG3
- _UID: B51BCC900A6F478DB4D3EDB973D3A24DDBBB
- Alt. Birth: Abt 1490, Allington Castle, Kent, England
- Alt. Death: 1561, Quarendon, Buckingham, England
Children:
- 4. Rev. John ROGERS was born on 4 Feb 1507 in Deritend, Aston, Warwickshire, England; was christened on 4 Feb 1507 in Deritend, Warwickshire, England; died on 4 Feb 1554 in Smithfield, England; was buried on 6 Feb 1555 in Marian Martyrs' Monument Smithfield, City of London, Greater London, England.
- William ROGERS, Sr. was born about 1510 in Watford, Northamptonshire, England; died after 10 Apr 1553 in Watford, Northamptonshire, England; was buried after 10 Apr 1553 in Watford, Northamptonshire, England.
- Edward ROGERS was born about 1511 in Deritend, Aston, Warwickshire, England; and died.
- Eleanor ROGERS was born about 1514 in Deritend, Aston, Warwickshire, England; and died.
- Joan ROGERS was born about 1515 in Deritend, Aston, Warwickshire, England; and died.
- William ROGERS was born in 1516 in Deritend, Aston, Warwickshire, England; died between 1516 and 1614.
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10. | De Weyden PRATT was born before 1473 in Brabant, Antwerp, Belgium; and died. Other Events:
- _UID: C8C7C34A2FF8485DA7F4EBD10997C50F3383
Notes:
Alias: /Mcheydon/
De married Joan Van METEREN between 1506 and 1510 in Antwerp, Brabant, Belgium. Joan was born in 1490 in Brabant, Antwerp, Belgium; died in 1567 in Brabant, Antwerp, Belgium. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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11. | Joan Van METEREN was born in 1490 in Brabant, Antwerp, Belgium; died in 1567 in Brabant, Antwerp, Belgium. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: L5NY-YYZ
Children:
- 5. Adriana De Wyden PRATT was born in 1511 in Brabant, Antwerp, Belgium; died on 8 Aug 1572 in Smithfield, England.
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