Elizabeth ERSKINE

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• Title: ; Lord of Erskine
• Title (Nobility): ; 14th Earl of Mar
• Title (Nobility): ; 7th Lord of Garioch
• Name: James ERSKINE
• Name: Thomas ERSKINE

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Thomas Erskine, 1st Lord Erskine (d. 1494), de jure 14th Earl of Mar, was a Scottish peer.

Erskine was the son of Robert Erskine, 1st Lord Erskine, and Elizabeth, daughter of David Lindsay, 1st Earl of Crawford. He married Janet Douglas. They had several children. One daughter, Helen, married Humphrey Colquhoun of Luss, son of Sir John Colquhoun of Luss. Another daughter, Margaret, married William Keith, 1st Earl Marischal.[1]

Lord Erskine died in 1494 and was succeeded by his son, Alexander.

http://www.erskinclan.com/gene4.html

Thomas Erskine, the King's bodyguard, foiled the Gowrie Conspiracy and was enobled as Lord Erskine by James II in 1460.

http://www.instirling.com/sight/tower.htm

https://www.clanmacfarlanegenealogy.info/genealogy/TNGWebsite/getpe...

The identity of Thomas Erskine's wife is not certain. She may not have been a daughter of the 1st Earl of Morton although that is often stated, sometimes as Elizabeth but perhaps more often as Janet. Cunningham gedcom source says this Janet died without male issue which would seem to promote Elizabeths claim to the position of wife of Thomas Erskine and mother of his heir and probably other children.

https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/erskine/378/

[These are the dates for Thomas, father of the 1st Lord !]

Parents: Sir Robert Erskine 1st Lord Erskine and Elizabeth Lindsay.

1st wife: Janet Douglas, heiress of Dalkeith, who died at the birth of her first child[This Janet Douglas was the 1st wife ofThomas, father of the 1st Lord]

He was married to Janet Douglas before 1445 in Scotland. Douglas' Peerage Vol. 5, pg. 105 - "He married, before 1445, Janet Douglas States in Douglas' Peerage she is the daughter of James, Earl of Morton, granddaughter of King James I.

[This is impossible, Janet dau of James, Earl of Morton by Joan, dau of King James I cannot have been born before 1459 ? the date of her parent's marriage.She married Bef. 1 Feb 1480/1 to Patrick Hepburn, 1st Earl of Bothwell, and died Bef. 1491.IfJanet Douglas, wife of Thomas, 2nd Lord Erskine was of the Morton family then she came from a previous generation, nothing can be stated with any certainty.She was his wife in Aug 1489]

2nd wife: Janet Keith or Barclay, widow of Sir David Barclay; It was Janet's heritage that connected the Erskine family with the Earldom of Mar.

[Janet Keith was the 2nd wife ofThomas, father of the 1st Lord ? vide supra]

children:[These are misplaced - children of Sir Thomas, father of the 1st Lord] i. - Sir Robert Erskine ii. - John Erskine - ancestor of the Erskines of Dun and of Pittodrie iii. - Elizabeth Erskine - married to Duncan Wemyss of Rires iv. - Margaret Erskine - married to Lord James Rutherfurd[Two of her ?!?]

Children were: Alexander Erskine 3rd Lord Erskine Helen Erskine Isobel Erskine Elizabeth Erskine Mariota Erskine Margaret Erskine - married Lord James Rutherfurd II[Not shown in SP V, p. 606-7.If their first child ? Peter was b Abt. 1450 then she CANNOT have been born after 1435.Her supposed parents were married Bef .1445 ? vide supra.Thomas d in or Abt. 1493, his parents m Aft. 1400, he was no doubt of age in 1441 ? therefore his birth had to occur between 1401-20, probably much towards the end of that range given his death date]

https://books.google.com/books?id=2ss6AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA75&lpg=PA75&dq=...

Thomas, second Lord Erskine, who married Lady Elizabeth Douglas, daughter of James, Earl Of Morton, and dying before 1494, had Alexander, third Lord Erskine, guardian to K. James the IVth.

Thomas married Janet Elisabeth DOUGLAS in 1430 in Selkirkshire, Scotland. Janet (daughter of James DOUGLAS, 2nd Lord of Dalkeith and Lady Elizabeth GIFFORD) was born on 7 Mar 1415 in Morton, Dumfriesshire, Scotland; died on 22 Feb 1490 in Selkirkshire, Scotland; was buried in 1490 in Glasgow, Lanarkshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: Janet of Glamis
• Name: Jeannette Elizabeth DOUGLAS

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Robert married Lady Elizabeth LINDSAY, Of Crawford. Elizabeth was born in 1391 in Glenesk, Forfarshire, Scotland; died on 6 Nov 1452 in Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland; was buried in 1452 in Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• TitleOfNobility: ; 2nd Lord of Dalkeith
• He resigend his lands in favour of his son.: 8 Sep 1456

James married Lady Elizabeth GIFFORD in 1417 in Morton, Dumfries-shire, , Scotland. Elizabeth (daughter of James GIFFORD and Beatrice GIFFORD) was born in 1392 in Newton Village, Midlothian, Scotland; was christened in 1392 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland; died on 8 Sep 1456 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland; was buried in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• TitleOfNobility: ; Baroness of Dalkeith
• TitleOfNobility: ; Countess of Morton
• Name: Elizabeth DE GIFFORD
• Name: Elzabeth GIFFORD

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James married Elizabeth STEWART. Elizabeth (daughter of King Robert III STEWART, of Scotland and Annabella DRUMMOND, Queen of Scotland) was born in 1386 in Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland, United Kingdom; died on 3 Nov 1411 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland; was buried in 1411 in Scotland, United Kingdom. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: ELIZABETH
• Name: Elizabeth STUART

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Elizabeth Stewart Princess of Scotland
1387? 1411
BIRTH 1387 ? Dunfermline, Fife, Scotland
DEATH 3 NOV 1411 ? Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland



Sir William Douglas, 6th Baron of Drumlanrig, had a charter as 'son and heir apparent of James Douglas of Drumlanrig' of the Barony and Castle of Drumlanrig, 19 May 1492 (i.e. during his father's lifetime). He also had charters of land in Dalgarnock, 22 Aug 1500; of the Barony of Tibbers, 23 Feb 1509; and of the Barony of Hawick, 15 jun 1511.


Death: Sept 1513 at Flodden, or possibly as a result of wounds sustained at the battle.(1)


Father: James (Sir) (5th Baron of Drumlanrig) Douglas
Mother: Janet Scott, dau of David Scott of Buccleuch

Marriage 1 Elizabeth, dau of Sir John Gordon of Lochinvar

Married: 1470??
He married Elizabeth Stewart, daughter of Sir Robert Stewart.


Children
James (Sir) (7th Baron of Drumlanrig) Douglas
Robert - ancestor of Douglas of Burford. He held the office of Provost of Lincluden
Janet (of Drumlanrig) Douglas = Robert, 5th Lord Maxwell, 4 June 1509 (Some say 4th Lord Maxwell)
Agnes? = Andrew Cunnyngham of Birkshaw (but see also Marion, dau of the 6th Laird
I also record John Douglas, father of Mr Douglas of Craigincune, but this is not recognised by some other sources. He is the forebear of the Douglas of Arlkand family.(2)


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1. Sir William died on 10 September 1513, the day after Flodden, 'on the field of war,' as appears from an inventory of his goods made by his widow, he dying intestate.

2. John, described as brother of James Douglas of Drumlanrig in letters of remission to them and many others for the murder of Thomas Maclellan of Bomby, dated 25 August 1526.
On 2 March 1545-46 he, by a very curious bond, pledged himself to his elder brother that if from that day forward he played at cards, dice, tables, or other games he would renounce all his heritages to his brother, who had given him ?48 money down, gold and silver, to abstain from such play.
He was probably the father of Mr. John Douglas of Craigincune, who in 1578 is described as 'brothir sone' of Sir James Douglas of Drumlanrig.

http://www.douglashistory.co.uk/history/william6thofdrumlanrig.htm#.YqpJ9XbMLb0

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James married Beatrice GIFFORD. Beatrice was born in 1370 in Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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