John OLIPHANT

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• Name: John OLIPHANT
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John married Lady Isabel (Elizabeth) CAMPBELL before 1485 in Scotland. Isabel (daughter of Lord Colin CAMPBELL, Earl Of Argyll and Isabel (Elizabeth) STEWART) was born on 5 Dec 1458 in Ardkinglass, Lochgoilhead, Argyllshire, Scotland; died about 1515 in Cargill, Perthshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: Laurence OLIPHANT OF ABERDALGIE
• Occupation: ; Sheriff of Perth, Lord of Privy Council.
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• TitleOfNobility: 1458, Alberdalgie, Scotland; 1st Lord of Oliphant
• TitleOfNobility: Between 1464 and 1498; 1st Lord Oliphant

Notes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurence_Oliphant,_1st_Lord_Oliphant
Laurence Oliphant, 1st Lord Oliphant (c. 1434 ? 1498) was a Scottish peer.[1][2][3]
Laurence Oliphant was first styled as Lord Oliphant in July 1455, one month after he came of age.
Laurence Oliphant was the eldest son and heir of Sir John Oliphant of Aberdalgie and Isobel, daughter of Sir Walter Ogilvie of Auchterhouse, Hereditary Sheriff of Angus. Born around 1438, his father was killed fighting in a feud between his Ogilvie brother-in-law and the Lindsays on 23 January 1445 when Laurence was seven or eight years old. He had brothers James Oliphant, 1st of Ardchailzie; John Oliphant and sisters Christian who married Alexander Blair of Balthayock; Elizabeth married James Herring of Tullibole and Lethendy and Margaret who married Sir Henry Wardlaw of Torrie.[3] In 1450, King James II granted "the ward and marriage" of Laurence to Sir David Hay of Yester.[4]
References:
Burke's Landed Gentry 19th Edition, The Kingdom in Scotland
Burke's Peerage & Baronetage 107th Edition
The Red Book of Perthshire by Gordon MacGregor
The Oliphants in Scotland
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Laurence Oliphant, 1st Lord of Oliphant married Elizabeth Cunningham, daughter of Sir Humphrey Cunningham and Marjorie Scot; His 2nd wife.3,4 Laurence Oliphant, 1st Lord of Oliphant married Isabel Hay, daughter of Sir William Hay, 1st Earl of Erroll, 2nd Lord Hay, Constable of Scotland and Beatrix Douglas, before 20 May 1472.5 Laurence Oliphant, 1st Lord of Oliphant died between 1 February 1499 and 8 April 1500.1
Family 1
Elizabeth Cunningham
Family 2
Isabel Hay
Children
John Oliphant, 2nd Lord of Oliphant+1 d. bt 12 Apr 1516 - 18 Nov 1516
William Oliphant2,6
Isabella Oliphant+
Isabel Oliphant+7 b. c 1476
Per Our royal, titled, noble...com sources
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father: Laurence Oliphant 1440? Death before April 8, 1500 (Age 60) Killed At Arbroath, Scotland
mother: Elizabeth Cunningham 1450?
daughter: Isabella Oliphant, 1480?
Laurence's family with second wife Isabel Hay, 1440
half-brother: John Oliphant, 1460? 1516
half-sister: Isabel Oliphant, 1472?
half-brother: William Oliphant, 1475? 1508
Per http://myfamilytree.scot/webtrees/individual.php?pid=I354145&ged=tree3 sources

Laurance married Lady Isabel HAY on 20 May 1472 in Forfarshire, Scotland. Isabel (daughter of William HAY, Earl Of Errol and Lady Beatrice DOUGLAS, Countess of Erroll) was born in 1441 in Errol, Perthshire, Scotland; died on 27 Jun 1509 in Perth, Perthshire, Scotland, United Kingdom; was buried in Gask, , Angus, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Colin married Isabel (Elizabeth) STEWART on 9 Apr 1453 in Glenorchy and Inishail, Argyll, Scotland. Isabel (daughter of John STEWART, 2nd Lord of Lorne and Agnes MACDONALD) was born in Jan 1437 in Castle Glenorchy, Lorn, Argyll, Scotland; died on 26 Oct 1510 in Dunbartonshire, Scotland; was buried in Oct 1510 in Kilmun Parish Church and Cemetery, Kilmun, Argyll, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• TitleOfNobility: ; Countess of Argyll
• Name: Isabel STUART
• Name: Isabella Elizabeth STEWART
• _UID: 86BB10600CB4416C81AD4012B619673B0F80

Notes:

Isabel Elizabeth Stewart is the daughter of John Stewart 2nd Lord Lorn. She married Colin Campbell on 9 Apr 1465 in Clunie, Perthshire, Scotland. They had 9 known children:
Colin, Mary, Thomas, Archibald, Catherine, Helena, Margaretha, Elizabeth, and Isabel. Her son Archibald became the 2nd Earl of Argyll.


EARL COLIN CAMPBELL was born 10 September 1433, Kilchurn Castle, Glenorchy, Argyll, Scotland, to Archibald Gillespic Campbell (1405-1440) and Lady Elizabeth Somerville Baroness (141301460.) He married Lady Isabel Stewart about 1455.

Colin Campbell died 10 May 1493, Tullibardine, Perthshire, Scotland, age 60.


Colin Campbell, 1st Earl of Argyll
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Colin Campbell, 1st Earl of Argyll (c. 1433 ? 10 May 1493) was a Scottish nobleman.
Biography[edit]
He was the son of Gillespic (Archibald) Campbell, Master of Campbell and Elizabeth Somerville. Colin Campbell succeeded his grandfather Duncan Campbell, 1st Lord Campbell in 1453, and was created Earl of Argyll in 1457 and Lord Lorne in 1470, after the resignation of his wife's uncle Walter Stewart, 3rd Lord Lorne, who became Lord Innermeath.
Campbell had supported King James II against the "Black Douglases", led by the 8th Earl of Douglas, and was given the earldom by King James III. James also gave him the position of Lord Chancellor of Scotland, but he eventually collaborated in the slaying of James III in 1484. In 1488 he became Lord Chancellor again, this time given by James IV of Scotland.
Marriage and issue[edit]
He married Isabelle Stewart, daughter of John Stewart, 2nd Lord Lorne in 1465, and had issue:[1]
?Archibald Campbell, 2nd Earl of Argyll.[1].
?Thomas Campbell
?Margaret Campbell, married George Seton, 4th Lord Seton
?Isabel Campbell, married William Drummond, Master of Drummond, son to John Drummond, 1st Lord Drummond
?Mary Campbell married Aonghas ?g Lord of the isles.
?Helen Campbell, married to Hugh Montgomerie, 1st Earl of Eglinton
?Elizabeth Campbell, married John Oliphant, 2nd Lord Oliphant
?Catherine Campbell, married Lachlan Og Maclean



Sir Colin Campbell of Lochow was the son of Sir Gillespic Campbell of Menstrie. He died circa 1294 at Ath-dearg of Argyllshire, Scotland, killed while fighting Alexander, Lord of Lorne.1
He lived at Lochow, Argyllshire, Scotland.1


Colin Campbell, second Lord Campbell and first Earl of Argyill, was the son of Archibald, second, but eldest, surviving son of Sir Duncan Cambell in 1445. He succeeded his grandfather in 1453. On the death of his father he was placed under the care of his uncle, Sir Colin Campbell of Glenorchy, who concluded a match between him and Isabel Stewart, the eldest of the three daughters, and coheiresses of John, third lord of Lorne. Having acquired the principal part of the landed property of the two sisters of his wife, he exchanged certainb lands in Perthshire for the lordship of Lorne with Walter, their uncle, on whom the lordship of Lorne, which stood limited to heirs male, had devolved. In 1457 he was created, by James II, Earl of Argyll. He was one of the commissioners for negotiating a truce with Edward IV of England in 1463. In 1465 he was appointed, along with Lord Boyd, lord justiciary of Scotland on the south of the Forth, and after the flight of Lord Boyd to England he acted as sole justiciary. In 1474 he was appointed one of the commissioners to settle the treaty of alliance with Edward IV, by which James, prince of Scotland, was affianced to Cecilia, youngest daughter of Edward. Early in 1483 he received the office of lord high chancellor of Scotland. He was one of the commissioners sent to France in 1484 to renew the ancient league with the crown, which was confirmed at Paris 9 July, and also one of the commissioners who concluded the pacification at Nottingham with Richard III, 21 September of the same year. In 1487 he joined the conspiracy of the nobles against James III, and at the time of the murder of the king, after the battle of Sauchieburn, he was in England on an embassy to Henry VII. After the accession of James IV he was restored to the office of lord high chancellor. He died 10 May 1493. He had two sons and seven daughters
Coile?in "Colin Oig & Colin" Campbell
BIRTH1433
Lochawe, Argyll and Bute, Scotland
DEATH10 May 1493 (aged 59? 60)
Scotland
BURIALKilmun Parish Church and Cemetery
Kilmun, Argyll and Bute, Scotland
Colin Campbell is the son of Archibald Gillespic Campbell Master of Campbell and Celeshine and Elizabeth Summerville.

Colin Campbell was the 1st Earl of Argyll & the 1st Lord Lorne & 2nd Lord Campbell. He married Isabel Elizabeth Stewart on 9 Apr 1465 in Clunie, Perthshire, Scotland.

They had 9 known children:
Colin, Mary, Thomas, Archibald, Catherine, Helena, Margaretha, Elizabeth, and Isabel.

Her son Archibald became the 2nd Earl of Argyll.

Kilchurn Castle

KILCHURN CASTLE CEMETERY

LADY ELIZABETH STEWART, COUNTESS OF ARGYLL was born 9 April 1427, Argyll, Scotland, to Baron John Stewart (1405-1463) and Agnes MacDonald (1402-1463.) She married Earl Colin Campbell about 1455.

Isabel Stewart passed away 16 October 1510, Dumbarton, Dunbartonshire, Scotland, age 83.

Dumbarton Castle, Dumbartonshire, Scotland

Isabel Elizabeth Stewart Campbell
Birth: 1439, Scotland
Death: Oct. 26, 1510
East Dunbartonshire, Scotland

Isabel Elizabeth Stewart is the daughter of John Stewart 2nd Lord Lorn. She married Colin Campbell on 9 Apr 1465 in Clunie, Perthshire, Scotland. They had 9 known children:
Colin, Mary, Thomas, Archibald, Catherine, Helena, Margaretha, Elizabeth, and Isabel. Her son Archibald became the 2nd Earl of Argyll.

Family links:
Spouse:
Colin Campbell (1433 - 1493)*

Children:
Archibald Campbell (1460 - 1513)*

*Calculated relationship

Burial:
Kilmun Parish Church and Cemetery
Kilmun
Argyll and Bute, Scotland

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Created by: Sharren Formby
Record added: Mar 14, 2015
Find A Grave Memorial# 143726824




Children of Colin Campbell and Isabel Stewart:

1.*LADY MARGARET CAMPBELL (1456-1520)
2.Lady Mary Campbell (1458-1528)
3.Earl Archibald Campbell (1459-1513)
4.Thomas Campbell (1460-1513)
5.Lady Catherine Campbell (1460-1516)
6.Helen Campbell (1460-1527)
7.Elizabeth Campbell (1462-1524)
8.Lady Isabel Campbell (1473-1518)
9.Lady Janet Campbell (1478-1555)
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Notes:

23 Jan 1444
Killed in the Battle of Arbroath

He was killed at Arbroath on 24 January, 1445, assisting the Ogilvies against the Lindsays of Crawford in a dispute which had arisen as to the ownership of the office of Bailie of Arborath Abbey.

Battle of Arbroath
Part of Gordon ? Lindsay feud
Arbroath Abbey - geograph.org.uk - 3180.jpg
Arbroath Abbey where the battle took place
Date24 January 1445 or 1446
LocationArbroath, Scotland
ResultVictory for Alexander Lindsay, Master of Crawford
Belligerents
Clan Ogilvy
Clan Gordon
Clan Oliphant
Clan Seton
Clan ForbesClan Lindsay
Commanders and leaders
Alexander Ogilvy, 2nd Baron of InverquharityAlexander Lindsay, Master of Crawford
Casualties and losses
500.[1]At least 100.[1]
vte
Clan Gordon-Clan Lindsay feud
The Battle of Arbroath was fought on 24 January 1445 (or by another version in 1446) at Arbroath in Scotland. It was between rivals claimants to the post of Baillie of the Regality.[1]


Contents
Background
The conflict began after the monks of the Abbey of Aborath, appointed Alexander Lindsay, Alexander Lindsay, Master of Crawford as the "Bailie of the Regality", a position charged with dispensing justice throughout the domain of the monastery.[2]

The monks soon regretted the appointment, as the Master of Crawford began quartering large numbers of his men in the abbey, whose behavior vile and cruel.[2]. The monks described the Master of Crawford as "uneasy to convent", and soon dismissed the Master of Crawford.[2] Afterwards the appointed Alexander Ogilvy, 2nd Baron of Inverquharity, as Bailie.[2] It should be noted that Alexander Ogilvy not only had the right of election, but also had hereditary claims to the office.[2] The Master of Crawford disputed the rights Ogilvy had to the position.[2] When unable to reconcile the dispute, he arbitrated with the sword.[2]

The Master of Crawford, who would become the 4th Earl of Crawford, was the son of David Lindsay, 3rd Earl of Crawford, and son of Marjory Ogilvy, daughter of Alexander Ogilvie of Auchterhouse.[3]

The battle
On 24 January 1445, the Master of Crawford arrived at the gates of the abbey with over one thousand men, mostly Lindsays, including a group of Hamiltons from Clydesdale.[2] Alexander Ogilvy of Inverquharity, was fortunate that he was entertaining guests on the day of the attack; Alexander Gordon, 1st Earl of Huntly, Sir John Oliphant of Aberdagie, Maxwell of Tealing, Brucklay of Gartley, Forbes of Pitsligo, and Gordon of Borrowfield, were all in the Baron's company.[2] Though outnumbered, Ogilvy and his allies drew up the lines of battle.[2] Alexander Ogilvy's force was supported by men from Clan Oliphant, Clan Seton, Clan Gordon and Clan Forbes.[2]

Meanwhile, the Earl of Crawford rode with great haste from Dundee in order to prevent hostilities.[2] The Earl rode across the field, between the two armies, to confer with Ogilvy.[2] but one of the men assembled under Ogilvy, mistook his approach for hostilities, threw a spear which struck the Earl in the mouth, killing him instantly.[2] Although an accident, this ended any chance for a peaceful resolution.[2] The battle began, both lines with spears at the ready.[2] It is said in an account of the battle by Buchanan, that the Lindsays cried out "Why do you bring those goads with you, as if you had to do with oxen? Pray, throw them away, and let us fight it out with out swords, hand to hand, by true valour, as becomes men."[2] As a result, both sides abandoned their spears, with the exception of a hundred of the Clydesdale men, who held the points of their spears in their hands behind them.[2] When they entered combat, the Clydesdale men held the spears out, creating a spear wall, which broke the ranks of the Ogilvy line.[2]

The Ogilvy force retreated, and made a last desperate stand about three miles away, at the village of Leysmill, where they rallied and turned to face the pursuers.[2] This second battle raged into the night, and Ogilvy and Pitsligo fell.[2] The Lindsays, though victorious, suffered heavy casualties at Leysmill, and were unable to pursue the Ogilvys further when they fell back to Kinnell, the men carrying the bodies of Ogilvy and Pitsligo with them.[2] It was determined that the body of Ogilvy should be interred in the aisle of the church in Kinnell.[2] This couplet was engraved on the aisle where he was buried: "While the girss grows green and the water rins clear, Let nane but Ogilvys lie here".[2]

Aftermath
Though the battle ended in Clan Lindsay's favor, they lost a disproportionate number of men, and the Earl of Crawford.[2] Alexander Ogilvy, Forbes of Pitsligo, Brucklay of Gartley, Gordon of Borrowfield, and Sir John Oliphant of Aberdalgie perished.[2]

Following the battle, the Master of Crawford, who would later be known as "The Tiger Earl of Crawford", unleashed what remained of his army upon the lands of his enemies: "and the flames of their castles, the slaughter of their vassals, the plunder of their property, and the captivity of their wives and children, instructed the remotest adherents of the Bailie of Aborath, how terrible was the vengeance which they had provoked."[2]

From this time forward, clan Lindsay had an aversion to the color green, and from the battle originated the couplet: "An Ogilvy in Green, Should never be seen".[2] It appears to have become a curse to the Lindsays, who were later defeated at the Battle of Brechin against the Earl of Huntley.[2] The Earl of Crawford attributed this loss to the Lindsays being dressed primarily in green, much like the Ogilvys at Arborath.[2]

The body of Alexander Ogilvy, 2nd Baron of Inverquharity, was uncovered at the Church of Kinnell in 1885, during a demolition. A local tale stated that for hundreds of years, the large boots and spurs of the Baron hung over the aisle.[2] The remains found were of a "gigantic" man, confirming the stories of the great stature of Ogilvy.[2] The spur, having been recovered, now sits in the vestibule of the present church at Kinnell.[2]

John married Isabel Or Margaret OGILVY in Aberdalgie, Perth, Scotland. Isabel (daughter of Sir Walter Of Auchterhouse OGILVY and Isabel RAMSEY) was born about 1420 in Auchterhouse, Angusshire, Scotland; died after 1471. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: Isabel Margaret (Margaretha) Ogilvy
• Name: Margaret Ogilvy
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• Occupation: ; Constable of Scotland
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• TitleOfNobility: 17 Mar 1452; 1st Earl of Erroll

Notes:

William Hay of Erroll, succeeded to the estates in 1436, and had sasine of the lands of Inchira on 25 January 1443-44, on a precept from Joanna Beaufort, Queen of James I, and to him and Beatrix his wife on 30 January 1449-50, on his own resignation. He granted a charter of the lands of Achmore to Sir David Hay of Yester in 1452.

According to Douglas, he was created EARL OF ERROLL 17 March 1452-53, but the Auchenleck Chronicle states that he was belted Earl in the Parliament held 12 June 1452. As Earl of Erroll, he resigned all his lands into the King's hands to be erected into the lordship of Erroll and regality of Slains respectively, on which resignation he had on 31 july 1452 two charters under the Great Seal, one of the lordship of Errol and the other of the regality of Slains, to himself and a long series of heirs. It was in virtue of these charters that the title and estates passed to the heir-male in 1541, and remained a male fief till the destination was changed in the time of Charles II.

The Earl was alive on 15 November 1461, so that the date of his death in the Erroll Obits, 24 August 1460, must be wrong. The true date is probably October 1462.

He married, before 17 March 1449-50, Beatrix Douglas, daughter of James, seventh Earl of Douglas, who survived him.

William, first Earl, had issue:

1. Nicholas, second Earl
2. William, third Earl.
3. Gilbert, a substitute in a charter of 1460 by his father of the lands of Meikle Arnage. He probably died young.
4. Elizabeth, who was contracted in marriage ?with Sir Andrew Gray ?
5. Margaret, married, first, about 1470 to Alexander Fraser, fourth of Philorth ?
6. Isabel, married Laurence, first Lord Oliphant.

Source: THE SCOTS PEERAGE, ed. by Sir James Balfour Paul, Vol III, Edinburgh, 1906, pp. 564-5
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FatherGilbert de la Haye d. 7 Sep 1436
MotherAlice Hay
ChartsPedigree of James Irvine
Sir William Hay, 1st Earl of Erroll, 2nd Lord Hay, Constable of Scotland was born at of Erroll, Perthshire, Scotland. He married Beatrix Douglas, daughter of James Douglas, 7th Earl Douglas, 1st Earl Avondale and Beatrix St. Clair, before 17 March 1450.3,6 Sir William Hay, 1st Earl of Erroll, 2nd Lord Hay, Constable of Scotland died in October 1462 at Slains.
Family
Beatrix Douglas d. bt 1507 - 1511
Children
Maria Hay+
Beatrix Hay+
William Hay, 3rd Earl Erroll+3,6 d. 14 Jan 1507
Isabel Hay+
Margaret Hay+8
Elizabeth Hay+2,4,5,7 d. a 1526
Nicholas Hay, 2nd Earl of Erroll b. c 1451, d. 1470
Sir Gilbert Hay+9 b. c 1460, d. 9 Sep 1513
Unknown author, The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. V, p. 94/5; Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles by Paget, Vol. II, p. 396; Burke's Peerage, 1938, p. 955.
Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I and III
Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I
The Scots Peerage, Vol. III, edited by Sir James Balfour Paul
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Hay,_1st_Earl_of_Erroll

William married Lady Beatrice DOUGLAS, Countess of Erroll on 17 Mar 1449 in Errol, Perthshire, Scotland. Beatrice (daughter of James DOUGLAS, 2nd Lord of Dalkeith and Lady Elizabeth GIFFORD) was born about 1427 in Douglas Castle, Lanarkshire, Scotland; died after 1490 in Yester Castle, Yester, Haddingtonshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Lady Beatrix Douglas was the daughter of James Douglas, 7th Earl of Douglas and Beatrice Sinclair.1 She married William Hay, 1st Earl of Erroll, son of Gilbert of the Haye and Alice Hay, circa 17 March 1449/50.1
From circa 17 March 1449/50, her married name became Hay. After her marriage, Lady Beatrix Douglas was styled as Countess of Erroll on 12 June 1452.
Children of Lady Beatrix Douglas and William Hay, 1st Earl of Erroll:
William Hay, 3rd Earl of Erroll+1 d. 14 Jan 1506/7
Nicholas Hay, 2nd Earl of Erroll1 d. 1470
Lady Elizabeth Hay+
Lady Isabel Hay+
Lady Margaret Hay+1
http://www.thepeerage.com/p2577.htm#i25764

FatherJames Douglas, 7th Earl Douglas, 1st Earl Avondale2,3 b. c 1380, d. 24 Mar 1443
MotherBeatrix St. Clair d. b 8 Feb 1463
ChartsPedigree of James Irvine
Beatrix Douglas married Sir William Hay, 1st Earl of Erroll, 2nd Lord Hay, Constable of Scotland, son of Gilbert de la Haye and Alice Hay, before 17 March 1450.2,3 Beatrix Douglas married Arthur Forbes, son of Sir William Forbes and Agnes Fraser, before 12 October 1463. Beatrix Douglas died between 1507 and 1511.
Family
Sir William Hay, 1st Earl of Erroll, 2nd Lord Hay, Constable of Scotland d. Oct 1462
Children
Maria Hay+
Beatrix Hay+
William Hay, 3rd Earl Erroll+2,3 d. 14 Jan 1507
Isabel Hay+4
Margaret Hay+5
Elizabeth Hay+ d. a 1526
Nicholas Hay, 2nd Earl of Erroll4 b. c 1451, d. 1470
Sir Gilbert Hay+6 b. c 1460, d. 9 Sep 1513
Unknown author, The Complete Peerage, by Cokayne, Vol. V, p. 95; Lineage and Ancestry of HRH Prince Charles by Paget, Vol. II
Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. III
Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I
The Scots Peerage, Vol. III, edited by Sir James Balfour Paul

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Archibald married Elizabeth SOMERVILLE. Elizabeth and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• TitleOfNobility: ; Lord of Lorne
• Name: John Mourach STEWART

Notes:

The Life Summary of John
When Sir John Stewart 2nd Lord of Lorne was born in 1397, in Glenorchy, Argyll, Scotland, United Kingdom, his father, Robert Stewart of Innermeath and Lorn, 1st Lord, was 18 and his mother, Lady Joan Stewart, was 18. He had at least 1 son and 2 daughters with Countess Agnes MacDonald. He died on 20 December 1463, in Rubha Garbh, Argyll and Bute, Scotland, United Kingdom, at the age of 66, and was buried in Dunkeld, Perthshire, Scotland.


BARON JOHN STEWART, BARON OF LORNE, was born about 1405 of Fothergill, Argyll, Scotland, to Lord Robert Stewart (1479-1449) and Joan Stewart (1379-1445.) He married Agnes MacDonald, Common-law marriage 1427, Dingwall, Ross-shire, Scotland.

John Stewart died 20 December 1463, Dunstaffnage Castle, Oban, Scotland, age 58.

AGNES MACDONALD was born about 1402 of Dingwall, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland, to Lord Donald MacDonald (1365-1423) and Countess Mariota Leslie (1367-1440.) She was the common-law wife of Baron John Stewart, 1427, Dingwall,Ross-shire, Scotland.

Agnes passed away about 1463, Dunstaffnage Scotland, age 53.

Children of John Stewart and Agnes MacDonald:

1.*LADY ISABEL STEWART COUNTESS (1427-1510)
2.Lady Janet Stewart (1432-1475)
3.Dougald Stewart, Chief (1445-1498)


He had two wives:

daughter MacDougall and daughter MacLaren. All other wives linked to him do not have valid sources and will be disconnected. ------------------------------------------------------- The name of John's first wife is not known. With his first wife Janet, Isabel and Marion were born. With a mistress (daughter of MacLaren) Dugald of Appin.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John Stewart, 2nd Lord Lorne was born between 1397 and 1434.3 He was the son of Sir Robert Stewart, 1st Lord Lorne and Joan Stewart. He gained the title of 2nd Lord Lorne [S., 1439] circa 1448.1 and also went by the nick-name of 'Muireach' (or in English, 'the Leper').4

John, Lord Lorne, called "the Leper," was surprised and mortally wounded by some of the Clan Dougall led by the 10th Chief's wild son, Black Alan MacDougall. (Alan M'Coule (3). He is said to have married on his death-bed (but this was not recognised by the authorities). John died of his wounds in his castle of Dunstaffnage on 20 Dec 1463.

Between 1449 and 1455 he sat in the Scottish Parliament as Lord Lorn.3

Sources

[S6] G.E. Cokayne; with Vicary Gibbs, H.A. Doubleday, Geoffrey H. White, Duncan Warrand and Lord Howard de Walden, editors, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, new ed., 13 volumes in 14 (1910-1959; reprint in 6 volumes, Gloucester, U.K.: Alan Sutton Publishing, 2000), volume VIII, page 138. Hereinafter cited as The Complete Peerage.
[S11] Alison Weir, Britain's Royal Family: A Complete Genealogy (London, U.K.: The Bodley Head, 1999), page 218. Hereinafter cited as Britain's Royal Family.
[S6] Cokayne, and others, The Complete Peerage, volume VIII, page 139.
[S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 2, page 2766. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
Links

http://www.thepeerage.com/p10798.htm#i107974
Sources

Scots Peerage page 332
John Stewart, 2nd Lord Lorne was born between 1397 and 1434.3 He was the son of Sir Robert Stewart, 1st Lord Lorne and Joan Stewart. He gained the title of 2nd Lord Lorne [S., 1439] circa 1448.1 and also went by the nick-name of 'Muireach' (or in English, 'the Leper').4

John, Lord Lorne, called "the Leper," was surprised and mortally wounded by some of the Clan Dougall led by the 10th Chief's wild son, Black Alan MacDougall. (Alan M'Coule (3). He is said to have married on his death-bed (but this was not recognised by the authorities). John died of his wounds in his castle of Dunstaffnage on 20 Dec 1463.

Between 1449 and 1455 he sat in the Scottish Parliament as Lord Lorne.3

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http://www.clanmacfarlanegenealogy.info/genealogy/TNGWebsite/getperson.php?personID=I929&tree=CC

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Stewart, John 2nd Lord of Lorne (Sir ) [929] 4 5 6

Born: 1400 1 Marriage (1): MacDougall, dau. [15692] circa 1429 in Argyll, Scotland 1 Marriage (2): MacLaren, dau. [3929] in 1463 2 3 Died: 20 December 1463, Dunstaffnage, Argyll, Scotland at age 63 1 7
Cause of his death was killed by a renegade MacDougall in the pay of the English.
Another name for John was Stewart, John "Mourach" of Lorne.
General Notes:
1 - On the murder of John, the second Stewart Lord of Lorne, in 1463 by a renegade MacDougall in the pay of the English, the Lordship and castle passed to his brother Sir Walter. There was a dispute, since the murdered man was on his way to be married to his mistress so as to legitimate his natural son. The last Stewart Lord of Lorne is said to have died on the threshold while reciting his marriage vows. Local sympathy seemingly favored the boy and for six years there was conflict in Lorne. Sir Walter, perhaps finding the lands more trouble than they were worth, exchanged the Lordship with Colin Earl of Argyll for richer and more peaceful lands in eastern Scotland. The exchange was ratified by royal charter in 1470.

2 - Tradition tell us that in 1445, while returning to his seat at Dunstaffnage castle from the great cattle tryst at Crieff, Sir John met and fell in love with the daughter of MacLaren of Ardvech. Although married, he began an affaire with his new love which one year later produced a son. He was christened Dugald and was to be the first Chief of the Stewarts of Appin. After the death of his first wife, Sir John waited, for reasons we are unaware of today, for 5 years until setting up the marriage between himself and Dugald's mother, but it may have had something to do with the politics of the day. In 1463, Sir John set a wedding date and sent for Dugald and his mother to come to Dunstaffnage. Unknown to Sir John, there was a plot to kill the Lord of Lorne. It is not fully known, but it is thought to have been set up by the Lord of the Isles who was in a power struggle with the King of Scots, and who saw it as being in his best interest to neutralize this powerful and loyal representative of the King in the west highlands. The other plotters, which some feel included Colin Campbell, Lord Argyll, Sir John's son-in-law, were primarily represented by Alan MacCoul, the illegitimate grandson of an earlier MacDougall Chief. As the lightly armed wedding party made it's way from Dunstaffnage to the small chapel located approximately 180 yards from the castle walls, they were attacked by a superior force lead by Alan MacCoul. Although better armed, MacCoul's force was defeated, but not before mortally wounding Lord of Lorn. Sir John was rushed into the chapel and MacCoul and his henchmen ran into and occupied the deserted Dunstaffnage. With his last breath Sir John married Dugald's mother, legitimizing him and making him the de jure Lord of Lorne. After receiving the last rites, Sir John expired and a new chapter in west highland history was opened. 8

John married dau. MacDougall [15692] [MRIN: 1529] circa 1429 in Argyllshire, Scotland.1 (dau. MacDougall [15692] was born circa 1412 in Argyll, Scotland.)

John possibly married dau. MacLaren [3929] [MRIN: 2451], daughter of ?? MacLaren of Ardveich [22529], in 1463.2 3

Sources

1 International Genealogical Index - submitted, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, International Genealogical Index.

2 Stirnet Genealogy, Peter Barns-Graham, Stirnet Genealogy (www.stirnet.com), Stewart18.

3 www.electricscotland.com, http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/stoz/appin_stewarts.htm.

4 http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/1150/ekf.html, http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/1150/ekf.html.

5 Colquoun_Cunningham.ged, Jamie Vans.

6 Stirnet Genealogy, Peter Barns-Graham, Stirnet Genealogy (www.stirnet.com), Campbell02: The Scots Peerage (Argyll), Burkes Peerage 1934 (Argyll).

7 Betty and Dick Field's Family History, Richard Field, Betty and Dick Field's Family History.

8 www.electricscotland.com, 2 - http://www.electricscotland.com/webclans/stoz/appin_stewarts.htm.

Source: http://clanmacfarlane.100megsfree5.com/929.htm

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John Stewart, 2nd Lord of Lorne's Timeline
1397
1397
Birth of John
Lorne, Argyll, Scotland
1432
1432
Age 35
Birth of Janet Stewart Of Lorn & Innermeath
Lorne, Argyll, Scotland
1437
January 1437
Age 40
Birth of Isabel Stewart of Lorn, Countess of Argyll
Lorne, West Dunbartonshire, Scotland

1446
1446
Age 49
Birth of Dugald Maclaurin Stewart, 1st of Ap

John married Agnes MACDONALD. Agnes (daughter of Donald MACDONALD, 8th Lord of the Isles and Mariota LESLIE, Countess of Ross) was born about 1400 in Dingwall, Ross-Shire, Scotland; died in 1463 in Glenorchy, Argyll, Scotland; was buried in 1463 in Glenorchy, Argyll, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events:

• FamilySearch ID: GN6X-8VK
• Name: Agnes Isabel MACDONALD

Notes:

Biography of Agnes MacDonald
Agnes MacDonald
Birth date: 1410
Birthplace: Dingwall, Cromarty, Scotland
Death: Died 1463 in Dunstaffnage, Scotland
Father Donald MacDonald, of Harlaw, 8th Lord of the Isles
Mother Mariota Leslie, Countess of Ross
Wife of John Stewart, 2nd Lord Lorn
Children
Janet Stewart of Lorn & Innermeath; Marion Stewart, Menteith and daughter of John Stewart of Lorn
Sister of Alexander MacDonald, 9th Lord of the Isles, 12th Earl of Ross; Gilbert MacAlistair; Mariota MacDonald, of the Isles and Angus MacDonald
Sources
http://www.geni.com/people/Agnes-MacDonald/6000000006714374442
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When Agnes MacDonald was born in 1410,Dingwall, Cromarty, Scotland,her father, Donald, was 46, and her mother, Mariota, was 47. She had one daughter with John Stewart in 1437. She died in 1463 in Dunstaffnage, Scotland at the age of 53.