Lord Alexander OGILVY

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About Sir Walter Ogilvy of Auchterhouse
Sir Walter Ogilvy, of Auchterhouse; married Isabel, daughter and heir of Sir Malcolm Ramsay; and was killed in a skirmish with robbers 1391. [Burke's Peerage]

From Darryl Lundy's Peerage page on Sir Walter Ogilvy of Auchterhouse:

http://thepeerage.com/p291.htm#i2908

Sir Walter Ogilvy of Auchterhouse [1]

M, #2908,
b. circa 1360,
d. 1392
Last Edited=22 Feb 2011
Sir Walter Ogilvy of Auchterhouse was born circa 1360.[2]

He married Isabel Ramsay, daughter of Sir Malcolm Ramsay, circa 1380.[1],[2]

He died in 1392, killed in action.[1],[3]

He was the son of Walter Ogilvy of Wester Powry and Auchterhouse.[1]

He held the office of Sheriff of Forfarshire.[1]
He lived at Auchterhouse, Angus, Scotland.[1]
He fought in the Battle of Glasklune in 1392, against Highland invaders.[3]
Children of Sir Walter Ogilvy of Auchterhouse and Isabel Ramsay

1. Sir Alexander Ogilvy of Auchterhouse+[1] d. bt 14 Jul 1421 - 2 Oct 1483
2. Sir Walter Ogilvy of Lintrathen+[1] d. 1440
3. John Ogilvy [1]
4. George Ogilvy [3] d. 1411
Child of Sir Walter Ogilvy of Auchterhouse

1. Henry Ogilvy [4]
Citations

1. [S8] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition, 2 volumes (Crans, Switzerland: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 1999), volume 1, page 45. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition.
2. [S5162] Werner Kittel, "re: Normandy FAmilies," e-mail message to Darryl Roger LUNDY (101053), 4 February 2011. Hereinafter cited as "re: Normanday Families."
3. [S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 1, page 59. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
4. [S323] Sir James Balfour Paul, The Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's The Peerage of Scotland (Edinburgh, Scotland: David Douglas, 1904), volume I, page 111. Hereinafter cited as The Scots Peerage.
From "Duncan the fat's descendants become Robertsons" by Joe Adair:

http://www.adair.ca/Robertson/Robertson.html

Duncan's son, Robert became second Lord of Struan about 1355. Through his second marriage, he acquired the lands of Stermont. However, his first marriage to the daughter of Sir John Sterling of Glenesk created some friction due to shared inheritance of the lands of Glenesk in Angus with her sister who married Sir Alexander Lindsay. The Lindsays had a son, Sir David Lindsay.

The Lindsays were very powerful, owning 2/3 of Angus County and were overlords of the highland district of Strathnairn. The division of land to the two sisters may have annoyed our chief.

Sir David Lindsay expected trouble from his aunt's family, and quite rightly so as it turned out. He arranged a meeting with Robert to discuss the matter. Robert did not attend. Sir David Lindsay sent a scout to find out what was going on. The scout never returned. Robert did not attend the meeting, instead secretly met with Sir Duncan Stewart who was backed by his men and the Roses from Strathnairn.

Robert had 3 younger half brothers, through their father's second marriage. They were Patrick of Lude, Thomas of Strowan and Gibbon. These brothers led a small army of our clansmen and secretly joined with Sir Duncan Stewart and his men to form an army of over 300 in 1392. They marched into Angus to the east and killed many Lindsays and their Ogilvies allies and their homes were burnt. Three thousand head of Angus cattle were stolen and driven to Rannoch.

The surviving enemy regrouped and caught up with our clan near Blairgowrie. At the battle of Glasclune, the Angus men were defeated, but we suffered heavy losses. The cattle were driven along the valley of Strathardle to our clan territory.

Still the enemy was not content to let it stand. Sir Walter Ogilvie, hereditary Sheriff of Angus, got it in his head that our clan's action was on shaky legal ground. He and his possy joined the retreating Angus men previously defeated and caught up with our men at Glenbrierachan in western Strathardle, six miles northeast of Pitlochry. Sixty mounted knights and sundry others comprised the enemy.

This steel armour and long lances were matched against our array of weapons:

Claymore - large broadsword, sharp on both edges
Targe - small, light shield which sacrifices defense to make offence easier
Dirk - dagger that can be used while the enemy fends off your claymore
We sent the Angus cattle ahead and positioned ourselves on rough ground, difficult for the enemy horses. Thus a charge by the knights with lances lowered would be difficult.

The battle did not last long. Sir David Lindsay had pinned one of our men to the ground. Our clansman pulled himself up using Sir David's own lance and using his claymore, penetrated Sir David's stirrup and armour steel boot to nearly sever Sir David's foot off, having cut through to the bone. Unfortunately, our brave clansman died later of his wounds.

In the quick defeat of the enemy and their subsequent panic, Sir Walter Ogilvie (the now late sheriff), his brother, nearly a dozen knights and about 60 others were killed by our clan. After so much harassment over this simple cattle transaction, our clan realized that

Walter married Isabel RAMSAY. Isabel (daughter of Malcolm RAMSAY and Lady Agathe OGILVY) was born in 1350 in Auchterhouse, Angus, Scotland; died in 1403 in Auchterhouse, Angus, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: Walter Ogilvy
• Occupation: ; Sheriff of Forfar

Walter married Christina KEITH. Christina (daughter of John KEITH and Isabella DE SOULIS) was born in 1319 in Auchterhouse, Angushire, Scotland; died in 1380 in Haddington, East Lothian, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Malcolm married Lady Agathe OGILVY. Agathe (daughter of Patrick OGILVIE and Marjory RAMSAY) was born in 1329 in Kirkton of Auchterhouse, Angus, Escocia, Scotland; died between 9 Jan 1365 and 8 Jan 1366 in Angusshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: Agathe Ogilvie

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• Name: Patrick
• Name: Patrick Ogilvy

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Summary of Patrick
When Sir Patrick Ogilvie Of Wester Powrie was born in 1281, his father, Sir Patrick Ogilvey of Wester Powrie, was 29 and his mother, Marjory Ramsay, was -11. He had at least 2 sons with Marjory Ramsay. He died in 1329, at the age of 48.

Patrick married Marjory RAMSAY. Marjory (daughter of Robert RAMSAY -, First Laird of Auchterhouse and Lady RAMSAY) was born about 1339 in Auchterhouse, Forfarshire, Scotland; died in in Wester Powerie, Forfarshire, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: John Keith

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John Keith was the son and heir of Sir Robert Keith and Barbara Douglas.[1][2][3] John's date of birth has been estimated as occurring circa 1294, based upon an entry in The Scots Peerage (Vol. VI), where John's son, Robert, is mentioned:

As having been present at the taking of Perth in 1332. He must have been then quite a youth, for he seems to have been under age in 1335-36, when Ralph de Neville possessed his half of the Soulis lands in Liddesdale in ward. He seems to have been dead some years prior to 1345-46.[1]
If grandson Robert fought at Perth in 1332, he would have been at least 16, for any younger, he would not have been eligible for military service.[4][5] Thus, having still been a minor in 1335-36, he was likely about age 19.[1] This would place John's son, Robert, as having been born circa 1316. Assuming an early parentage of 22 for his father, John may have been born circa 1294.

John Keith had one known brother, Sir William, noted for opposing the peace in August of 1335 between Scotland and England.[1]

Marriage
John married an unknown sister and co-heir of William de Soules and had the following issue: Robert, who succeeded his grandfather Robert Keith as Marischal of Scotland, married Margaret, daughter of Sir Gilbert Hay of Errol, first Constable of Scotland, but died without issue;[2] an unknown daughter who married Sir Robert Maitland; and Edmund and Sir Edward, both of whom were killed at the battle of Durham on 17 October 1346.[1][6] It is unknown whether John had any previous marriages.

Death
John died in 1324, pre-deceasing his father, which appears by an entail made by John's father, Robert Keith, in 1325, whereby John's estate was passed on to his son, Robert and his heirs male.[1] The location of his death and burial are unknown.

Research Notes
Few sources were located that provided biographical data for John Keith. The following sources were reviewed with no additional information found regarding notable events in the life of John:

Bain, Joseph, (1881). Calendar of documents relating to Scotland preserved in Her Majesty's Public Record Office, London (Vol. II). Edinburgh: H. M. General Register House.
Bain, Joseph. (Ed.). (1881). Calendar Of Documents Relating To Scotland, Preserved In Her Majesty's Public Record Office, London (Vol. V). Edinburgh: H.M. General register House.
Barrow, G. W. S. (2013). Robert Bruce and the Community of the Realm of Scotland. Edinburgh: Edinburgh University Press.
Beam, Amanda G. (2005). The Political Ambitions and Influences of the Balliol Dynasty, c. 1210-1364 (pp. 176, 202, 419). (Doctoral dissertation). Retrieved from University of Stirling.
Cokayne, George Edward. (1932). The Complete Peerage; or, A History of the House of Lords and all its Members from the Earliest Times (Vol. VIII). London: The St. Catherine Press, Ltd.
Dalrymple, David. (1797). Annals of Scotland: From the Accession of Malcolm III in the Year MLVII to the Accession of the House of Stewart in the Year MCCCLXXI, to Which are Added, Tracts Relative to the History and Antiquities of Scotland (Third ed., Vol. II). Edinburgh: Archibald Constable & Co.
Nisbet, Alexander. (1816). A System of Heraldry, Speculative and Practical, with the True Art of Blazon, According to the Most Approved Heralds in Europe: Illustrated with Suitable Examples of Armoria Figures, and Achievements of the Most Considerable Surnames and Families in Scotland, Together with Historical and Genealogical Memorials Relative Thereto (Vol. II). Edinburgh: W. Blackwood.
Ramsay, James Henry. (1913). Genesis of Lancaster; or, The Three Reigns of Edward II, Edward III, and Richard II, 1307-1399 (Vol. 1). Oxford: The Clarendon Press.
Records of the Parliaments of Scotland to 1707.
Robertson, William. (1798). An Index, Drawn up About the Year 1629, of Many Records of Charters, Granted by the Different Sovereigns of Scotland Between the Years 1309 and 1413... Edinburgh: Murray & Cochrane.
Stephen, Leslie (Ed.). (1890). Dictionary of National Biography (Vol. XXI).
Stones, Edward. (1970). Anglo-Scottish Relations, 1174-1328. Oxford: Clarendon Press.
Thomson, John Maitland (Ed.). (1912). Registrum Magni Sigilli Regum Scotorum A.D. 1306-1424. Edinburgh: H.M. General Register House.
Sources
Balfour Paul, James. (1909). The Scots Peerage: Founded on Wood's ed. of Sir Robert Douglas's Peerage of Scotland; Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of that Kingdom (Vol. VI, p. 33). Edinburgh: D. Douglas. Retrieved from Internet Archive (Available online); accessed 17 July 2021.
? 2.0 2.1 Douglas, Robert. (1764). The Peerage of Scotland, Containing an Historical and Genealogical Account of the Nobility of that Kingdom, from their Origin to the Present Generation. Collected from the Public Records and Chartularies of this Country, the Records and other Writings of the Nobility and the Works of our Best Historians (p. 451). Edinburgh: R. Fleming. Retrieved from Internet Archive (Available online); accessed 17 July 2021.
? People of Medieval Scotland 1093-1371. Robert Keith, Marischal (no. 16138). Retrieved from PoMS (Available online); accessed 3 July 2021.
? MacDonald, Alastair J. (October 2013). Courage, Fear and the Experience of the Later Medieval Scottish Soldier (p. 182). The Scottish Historical Review, 92(235), 179-206. doi: 10.3366/shr.2013.0174. Retrieved from euppublishing.com (Available online); accessed 26 June 2021.
? Alvarez, Sandra. (9 March 2014). Teenagers at War During the Middle Ages. Retrieved from De Re Militari (Available online); accessed 27 June 2021.
? Cawley, C. (11 May 2021). Scotland Untitled Nobility (Robert Keith, i). Retrieved from Foundation for Medieval Genealogy (Available online); accessed 17 July 2021.

John married Isabella DE SOULIS. Isabella was born in 1276 in Hermitage Castle, Dougas, South Lanakshire, Scotland; died on 18 Feb 1317 in Castle Cary, Somerset, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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