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Carney & Wehofer Family
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1408 - 1435 (27 years)
Generation: 1
1. | John FITZALAN, 14th Earl Of Arundel, Kb, Kg was born on 14 Feb 1407-1408 in Lytchett Matravers, Poole, Dorsetshire, England (son of John FITZALAN, 13th Earl Of Arundel, Kb, Sir and Eleanor BERKELEY); died on 12 Jun 1435 in Beauvais, Oise, Picardy, France (Of Wounds); was buried in Grey Friars, Beauvais; Reburied At Arundel. Other Events:
- Name: 19th\14Th Earl Of ARUNDEL
- _UID: A6B561C03C444D168AC438373D72D7FFA193
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EARLDOM of ARUNDEL (XIX, 14 or 7) 1421
JOHN D'ARUNDEL, [who, in right of either his father's writ or of the admission of 1433] may be considered Earl of Arundel. Son and heir born 14 February 1407/8, at Lytchett Mautravers, Dorset. Created K.B. at Leicester, by the young King, under the name of "Dominus de Maultravers." His claim to the Earldom of Arundel not having been recognised, he was, when of age, summoned to Parliament on 12 July and 3 August 1429, by writs directed Johanni Arundel' de Arundell' Chivaler, whereby he is held to have become Lord Arundel. In December 1431 he was in the coronation of Henry VI at Paris. He greatly distinguished himself in the French wars, and was made Captain of the Castle of Rouen in February 1431/2. On 22 April 1432 he was created K.G.; and in November 1433 his petition to be considered Earl of Arundel by tenure of the Castle of Arundel, was allowed, but he was never afterwards summoned to Parliament as an Earl or a Baron. He was created, in 1434, Duke of Touraine in France, by the Regent Bedford. The Earl was severely wounded and taken prisoner at the siege of Gerberoy, in the Beauvaisis, in May 1435, was carried to Beauvais, where his leg was amputated. He died several weeks later 12 June 1435 and was buried in the Grey Friars there, though, in accordance with his will, his body was reinterred in a noble tomb at Arundel.
He married 1stly [or, more probably, was contracted as a minor to] Constance, daughter of John [Cornwall], Lord Fanhope, by Elizabeth, daughter and coheir of John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster. She died s.p. and v.p. before 1429. He married 2ndly, before 1429, Maud, widow of Sir Richard Stafford of Southwick, Wilts [who died about 1427], daughter and heir of Robert Lovell (younger son of John, 5th Lord Lovell of Titchmarsh), by Elizabeth, daughter and coheir of Sir Guy Bryene, who was 1st son and heir apparent of Sir Guy Bryene [Lord Bryene]. She died 19 May 1436. [Complete Peerage I:247-8, XIV:39, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
John married Constance CORNWALL in 1st Wife. Constance was born about 1407 in Fownhope, Hereford, Herefordshire, England; died before 1429. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
John married Maud (Matilda) LOVEL before 1429 in 2ND Husband, 2ND Wife. Maud was born about 1406; died on 19 May 1436 in Arundel Caslte, West Sussex, England; was buried in Abbotsbury Abbey, Dorsetshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- Humphrey FITZALAN, 15th Earl Of Arundel was born on 30 Jan 1428-1429 in Arundel Caslte, West Sussex, England; died on 24 Apr 1438.
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Generation: 2
2. | John FITZALAN, 13th Earl Of Arundel, Kb, Sir was born on 1 Aug 1385 in Ditton Manor, Stoke Pogis, Buckinghamshire, England (son of John 2Nd Baron D' ARUNDEL, Sir Knight and Elizabeth Le DESPENSER); died on 21 Apr 1421 in Arundel Caslte, West Sussex, England; was buried in Arundel Chapel, Sussex, England. Other Events:
- Name: 18th\13Th\6Th Earl Of ARUNDEL
- Name: John FITZALAN
- _UID: 4A3546A82F40402CB626C0ED9B78EDEEBF8E
Notes:
John d'Arundel, 13th/6th Earl of Arundel, as which succeeded cousin 1415 and was perhaps summoned to Parliament 1416 though not thereafter (it is thought because of Mowbray hostility to his claims that family being heirs general of the previous Earls of Arundel), and de jure 3rd Lord (Baron) Mautravers, as which succeeded grandmother Jan 1404/5 (though never summoned to Parliament by that title; nevertheless he was frequently referred to as Lord Mautravers prior to 1415), KB(1399); born 1 Aug 1385; served in Agincourt Campaign 1415; married by 1407, as her 1st husband Eleanor (married 2nd Sir Richard Poynings and 3rd by 8 May 1439 1st Lord (Baron) Hungerford), daughter of Sir John Berkeley, of Beverstone, Glos, and died 21 April 1421. [Burke's Peerage]
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EARLDOM of ARUNDEL (XVIII, 13 or 6) 1415
JOHN D'ARUNDEL, [who, according to the admission of 1433] may be considered Earl of Arundel, cousin and heir male, being son and heir of John d'Arundel, by Elizabeth, daughter of Edward le Despenser, which last named John [who never was summoned as a Baron] was son and heir of John D'Arundel [summoned to Parliament 1377-79], who was brother of the whole blood of Richard [xv] Earl of Arundel. Succeeded his father 14 August 1390, created K.B. 12 October 1399, became de jure Lord Mautravers by the death of his grandfather [suo jure Baroness Mautravers] on 10 January 1404/5, but was never summoned to Parliament as a Baron, though frequently styled Lord Mautravers. He was in the French wars of 1415, in which year he succeeded to the Castle and Honour of Arundel, and according to some authorities, is said to have been summoned to Parliament as Earl of Arundel, 3 September 1416, though [probably owing to the opposition of the great family Mowbray, the heirs gen. of the former Earls of Arundel] never afterwards.
He married, before 1407, Eleanor, daughter of Sir John Berkeley, of Beverstone, co. Gloucester, by his 1st wife, Elizabeth, daughter and heir of Sir John Betteshorne, of Betteshorne in Sopley, Hants. He died 21 April 1421, and was buried at Arundel. His widow married, about 1423, Sir Richard Poynings, who was son and heir apparent of Robert, Lord Poynings, but who died v.p., 10 Jun 1429. She married 3rdly, before 8 May 1439, Walter [Hungerford], Lord Hungerford, K.G., who died 9 Aug 1449. She died 1 August 1455, and was buried at Arundel. Will [in which she styles herself "Countess of Arundel and Lady Mautravers," and speaks of her 1st husband as "John, Earl of Arundel" dated 20 July 1455, proved 23 August following. [Complete Peerage I:247, XIV:39, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
John married Eleanor BERKELEY before 1407 in 1st Husband. Eleanor was born about 1390 in Beverstone Castle, Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England; died on 1 Aug 1455 in Heytesbury, Wiltshire, England; was buried in Arundel Chapel, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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3. | Eleanor BERKELEY was born about 1390 in Beverstone Castle, Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England; died on 1 Aug 1455 in Heytesbury, Wiltshire, England; was buried in Arundel Chapel, Sussex, England. Other Events:
- _UID: 55E0F9578F6D4883A5B2AA2D9165913F40FE
Notes:
Eleanor (died 1 Aug 1455), daughter of Sir John Berkeley, of Beverstone, Glos, and widow of (a) 13th/6th Earl of Arundel and (b) Sir Richard Poynings. [Burke's Peerage]
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He [John d'Arundel] married, before 1407, Eleanor, daughter of Sir John Berkeley, of Beverstone, co. Gloucester, by his 1st wife, Elizabeth, daughter and heir of Sir John Betteshorne, of Betteshorne in Sopley, Hants. He died 21 April 1421, and was buried at Arundel. His widow married, about 1423, Sir Richard Poynings, who was son and heir apparent of Robert, Lord Poynings, but who died v.p., 10 Jun 1429. She married 3rdly, before 8 May 1439, Walter [Hungerford], Lord Hungerford, K.G., who died 9 Aug 1449. She died 1 August 1455, and was buried at Arundel. Will [in which she styles herself "Countess of Arundel and Lady Mautravers," and speaks of her 1st husband as "John, Earl of Arundel" dated 20 July 1455, proved 23 August following. [Complete Peerage I:247, XIV:39, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
Children:
- 1. John FITZALAN, 14th Earl Of Arundel, Kb, Kg was born on 14 Feb 1407-1408 in Lytchett Matravers, Poole, Dorsetshire, England; died on 12 Jun 1435 in Beauvais, Oise, Picardy, France (Of Wounds); was buried in Grey Friars, Beauvais; Reburied At Arundel.
- William FITZALAN, 16th Earl Of Arundel, Kg, Sir was born on 23 Nov 1417 in Arundel Caslte, West Sussex, England; died after Sep 1487 in Arundel Caslte, West Sussex, England; was buried in Arundel Chapel, Sussex, England.
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Generation: 3
4. | John 2Nd Baron D' ARUNDEL, Sir Knight was born on 30 Nov 1364 in Lytchett Matravers, Poole, Dorsetshire, England; died on 14 Aug 1390 in Ditton Manor, Stoke Pogis, Buckinghamshire, England; was buried in Missenden Abbey, Buckinghamshire, England. Other Events:
- Name: John FITZALAN
- _UID: ABC420FC86FA478A9DC3B5E8B0E363F1C081
Notes:
John; never called to Parliament (perhaps because his mother was still living; if so it would strengthen the supposition that his father was called to Parliament as a peer in right of his wife; (see below against 17th/10th Earl where the Barony of Arundel and Mautravers are amalgamated); born 30 Nov 1364; served against Scots by land 1383 and at sea (against the French?) 1388; married by 1387 Elizabeth, daughter of 1st Lord (Baron) le Despenser, and died 14 Aug 1390. [Burke's Peerage]
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Sir John d'Arundel (121-8), Lord Arundel. [Magna Charta Sureties, Line 14-9]
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BARONY of ARUNDEL (II) 1379
JOHN D'ARUNDEL, son and heir, born 30 November 1364. He was never summoned to Parliament He was with the army in Scotland in 1383, and with the English Fleet in 1388. He married, before 1385, Elizabeth, daughter of Edward (DESPENSER), LORD Le DESPENSER, by Elizabeth, daughter and heir of Bartholomew (BURGHERSH), LORD BURGHERSH. He died 14 August 1390, and was buried in Missenden Abbey. On 15 July 1406 he is referred to as John Darundell Chivaler, and his son as John Darundell Esquire. His widow married William (LA ZOUCHE), LORD ZOUCHE OF HARYNGWORTH, who died 13 May 1396. She died 10 or 11 April 1408. Will, desiring to be buried in Tewkesbury Abbey, dated 4 Apri 1408. [Complete Peerage I:260, XIV:40, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
Note: CP assumes that the reason he was not called was because this Barony, even though it was not named so, was really the Mautravers/Maltravers Barony in right of his mother Eleanor; and John died before she did and therefore was not summoned to Parliament. However since the title was Arundel, and not Mautravers, he can legally be assumed to be the 2nd of that title.
John married Elizabeth Le DESPENSER before 1385 in 1st Husband. Elizabeth (daughter of Edward II 1St Baron Le DESPENSER, Kg, Sir and Elizabeth De BURGHERSH) was born about 1367 in Essendine, Rutlandshire, England; died between 10 and 11 Apr 1408 in Harringworth, Northamptonshire, England; was buried in Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucestershire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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5. | Elizabeth Le DESPENSER was born about 1367 in Essendine, Rutlandshire, England (daughter of Edward II 1St Baron Le DESPENSER, Kg, Sir and Elizabeth De BURGHERSH); died between 10 and 11 Apr 1408 in Harringworth, Northamptonshire, England; was buried in Tewkesbury Abbey, Gloucestershire, England. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: 9QVW-4JW
- _UID: 51ACC30F051E423A8C152F68AF394496684F
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Elizabeth, daughter of 1st Lord (Baron) le Despenser. [Burke's Peerage, p. 2098]
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Elizabeth (b. 10 or 11 April 1408), daughter of 1st Lord (Baron) le Despenser and widow of 2nd Lord (Baron) Arundel de jure (though he was never summoned to Parliament. [Burke's Peerage, p. 3102]
Note: I am sure that they mean "d. 10 or 11 April 1408".
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Elizabeth Despenser, d. 10 or 11 Apr 1408; m. (1) Sir John d'Arundel (121-8), Lord Arundel. [Magna Charta Sureties]
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Elizabeth, daughter of Edward, 1st Lord Despenser. She d. 10 or 11 Apr 1408. [Magna Charta Sureties]
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He [John d'Arundel] married, before 1387, Elizabeth, daughter of Edward (DESPENSER), LORD Le DESPENSER, by Elizabeth, daughter and heir of Bartholomew (BURGHERSH), LORD BURGHERSH. He died 14 August 1390, and was buried in Missenden Abbey. On 15 July 1406 he is referred to as John Darundell Chivaler, and his son as John Darundell Esquire. His widow married William (LA ZOUCHE), LORD ZOUCHE OF HARYNGWORTH, who died 13 May 1396. She died 10 or 11 April 1408. Will, desiring to be buried in Tewkesbury Abbey, dated 4 Apri 1408. [Complete Peerage I:260, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
Notes:
Alt. Marriage:
1st husband
Children:
- 2. John FITZALAN, 13th Earl Of Arundel, Kb, Sir was born on 1 Aug 1385 in Ditton Manor, Stoke Pogis, Buckinghamshire, England; died on 21 Apr 1421 in Arundel Caslte, West Sussex, England; was buried in Arundel Chapel, Sussex, England.
- Thomas FITZALAN, Sir Knight was born before 1390 in Arundel, Sussex, England; died in 1431 in Beechwood, Sussex, England.
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Children:
- 3. Eleanor BERKELEY was born about 1390 in Beverstone Castle, Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England; died on 1 Aug 1455 in Heytesbury, Wiltshire, England; was buried in Arundel Chapel, Sussex, England.
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Generation: 4
Children:
- 4. John 2Nd Baron D' ARUNDEL, Sir Knight was born on 30 Nov 1364 in Lytchett Matravers, Poole, Dorsetshire, England; died on 14 Aug 1390 in Ditton Manor, Stoke Pogis, Buckinghamshire, England; was buried in Missenden Abbey, Buckinghamshire, England.
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