Albreda De LISOURES

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When her cousin, Robert de Lacy, Lord of Pontefract (RIN 2816*) died on 21 Jun 1193 without any heir, all his Lacy estates went to her. Her children by Robert de Lisours, including John, took the de Lacy name.

Family/Spouse: Richard FITZEUSTACE. Richard (son of Eustace FITZJOHN and Agnes FITZNIGELL) died in 1163. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Constable John, Of Chester was born in 1150; died on 11 Oct 1190 in Palestine, Holy Land.

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Robert married Aubrey De LACY. Aubrey (daughter of Robert De LACY and Matilda) and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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From W E Wightman, "The Lacy Family in England and Normandy, 1066-1194": W E Wightman, *The Lacy Family in England and Normandy, 1066-1194*, genealogical chart following p 260. (p.59): "Robert I succeeded his father Ilbert as head of the family, probably between 1091 and 1100. Almost as little is known about his career as about that of his father. The date of his birth cannot even be guessed, and the date of his death is uncertain. He was alive during the time of Thomas II, archbishop of York (1108-13). He was dead by 1129, when Robert de Lisours paid L12. 9s. 4d. for permission to marry Robert de Lacy's daughter Aubrey. ..... Robert's wife was called Matilda. She surviived into Stephens's reign, and perhaps even until 1155. They had three sons whose existence can be proved, as well as a daugher, Aubrey. Ilbert II suceeded Robert I, and Henry succeeded Ilbert when the latter died apparently childless. A third unnamed son was killed at the battle of the Standard, 22 August 1138, and was the only Anglo-Norman knight killed. Robert also had a son of his own name." (pp. 60, 61, 63): "Robert I was the first member of the family to found a monastery of his own. ..... Robert I was responsible for the foundation of the Cluniac priory of St. John, Pontefract, at some time during the reign of William I. ..... Robert I seems to have been an energetic founder and builder, for in addition to his ecclesiastical foundations he was probably responsible for the building of the Lacy castle at Clitheroe. There is no real evidence whatever for the suggestion sometimes advanced that Roger of Poitou built it." (pp. 66, 67, 68, 72): "Round about 1114 Robert I was banished from his English estates, though apparently not from those in Normandy, since his son was still in possession of his share of the lands there in 1133. The honour was granted to Hugh de Laval not later than 1118 ..... Although there is no evidence to connect him with England before he received Pontefract, Hugh seems to have regarded himself as the heir of the Lacy family and to have behaved much like any ordinary tenant-in-chief, unlike his immediate successor [William] Maltravers. ..... Maltravers was nothing more than an efficient lay administrator and financier who had risen in the service of the king in much the same way as Payn fitz John in the West Midlands. Payn was, however, a member of the lesser nobility; of Maltravers's origin nothing is known. He owed his position entirely to his abilities and to the king's recognition of them, to such an extent that by 1130 he had become a man of considerable substance. ..... The manner of his death has long been known, since the tale was told by Richard of Hexham. As soon as Henry I was dead, Maltravers was killed by a knight of the honour, and the way was open for the return to Pontefract of Ilbert II de Lacy. As an upstart who took no interest in the affairs of his barony save for what he could extract to recoup the sums he had paid for it, Maltravers must have incurred the dislike of established honorial barons like William Foliot and Roger Peitevin. They were the men who would suffer in pociket from his demands, and who would despise a man who could not be regarded as their lord and leader in the same way as a genuine member of the baronage." "Robert and Matilda had the following children: i. Aubrey de LACY. ii. Ilbert (2) de LACY. iii. Henry (1) de LACY. Besides these three children Wightman has "Robert (o.s.p.)" and "a knight (ob. 1138)", of whom he says "These two may be one and the same person", and also "Jordan (ob. ante 1166)".

Robert married Matilda. Matilda died after 1154. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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It is sometimes claimed that he fought with WILLIAM THE CONQUERER at the Battle of Hastings. There is no proof of this. Quite possibly, he was too old to have faught. From W E Wightman, "The Lacy Family in England and Normandy, 1066-1194": (pp.17, 19): "The honour of Pontefract is the name later given to the estates built up by the Lacy family, mainly by Ilbert I under the first two Norman kings. In 1086 the bulk of these estates were already to be found in the south half of the West Riding of Yorkshire, held by Ilbert I as tenant-in-chief direct of the king, though there was also an appreciable quantity of land scattered over the counties of Lincoln, Nottingham, Buckingham, Oxford, counties of Lincoln, Nottingham, Buckingham, Oxford, Berkshire, and Surrey. ..... The military importance of this stretch of territory was enormous." ( p 55): "The first holder of the honour of Pontefract was Ilbert I de Lacy, brother of the first lord of the honour of Weobley, Walter I. Proof of their relationship comes from their estate in Normandy. This single holding was held jointly by the descendants of Ilbert I and Walter I by the Norman tenure of parage, under which land was divided amongst the sons and daughters whilst at the same time remaining a single fee. Had it not been originally a family holding this tenure would not have applied, and the details of the dissolution of the joint fee show that the family link must have been via Ilbert and Walter as sons of the same father. The senior branch of the family was probably that of Ilbert of Pontefract. He followed his Norman overlord into England, whereas Walter arrived in the train of William fitz Osbern, much as a younger son might do. In all probability the younger brother would have no obligation to follow his liege lord outside Normandy and thus might choose to attach himself to the most convenient leader he could find. An additional piece of evidence comes from the grant of twenty- two acres of land at Montmain to the nunnery of St. Amand by Emma, the mother of Ilbert de Lacy. She was categorically described as Ilbert's mother, to distinguish her from the abbess of St. Amand, whose name was also Emma. This implies either that Ilbert was the more important of the two brothers in Normandy, and under the rules of tenure by parage therefore the elder, or else that Walter was not Emma's son, but a cousin. As this would have been impossible, in view of the later descent of the fee, it is most likely that Ilbert was the elder. Little is known about either of the brothers. They were not, for example, amongst the favoured few whose participation at the battle of Hastings can be proved. Ilbert I was probably born not later than 1045, though this is little more than a guess based on the likely assumption that he came over in 1066, and was enfeoffed as a tenant of Bishop Odo soon afterward. He was still alive shortly after Odo's banishment on 14 November 1088. It is possible that he was alive in or soon after 1091, but he was undoubtedly dead by the end of the reign of Rufus, for by that time he had been succeeded by his son Robert I. Little more is known about his family. His wife's name was Hawise, and that is the total extent of information about her."

Gilbert married Hawise. Hawise was born about 1045; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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