Elizabeth HOPTON

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• FamilySearch ID: LB92-PQ5
• LifeSketch: ; The visitation of Cheshire in the year 1580
• TitleOfNobility: ; Countess of Worcester
• Name: Elizabeth HOPTON
• _UID: 4408D7188C1649C6BB80C19D7910CF634008

Notes:

He [John Tiptoft] married, 3rdly, circa September 1467, at Ludlow, Salop, Elizabeth, widow of Sir Roger CORBET, of Moreton Corbet, Salop (died shortly before 16 June 1467), sister and heir of Walter HOPTON, of Hopton, Salop, daughter of Thomas HOPTON, of the same, by Eleanor, sister and (in her issue) coheir of Sir William Lucy, of Newington, Kent, and Richard's Castle, co. Hereford, daughter of Sir Walter Lucy, of the same. He died intestate 18 October 1470, aged 43, and was buried in the Church of the Black Friars by Ludgate. M.I. there. Effigy (with two of his wives) and monument in Ely Cathedral. His widow married, 3rdly, before 7 December 1471, as his 2nd wife, Sir William STANLEY, K.G. (younger brother of Thomas, 1st EARL OF DERBY), who was found guilty of treason for his support of Perkin Warbeck and beheaded, 16 February 1494/5, on Tower Hill. She died 22 June 1498. [Complete Peerage XII/2:842-6, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Parents:
Thomas HOPTON, Knight (AFN: 9HFQ-37) (B. 1388) & Eleanor LUCY (ca. 1407-ca. 1460)

Elizabeth married Sir Roger CORBET, of morton about 1445 in Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England. Roger (son of Robert CORBET, Esq. and Margaret MALLORY) was born about 1414 in Moreton Corbet, Wem, Shropshire, England; died on 5 Jun 1467 in Shropshire, England, United Kingdom. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Jane CORBET was born in 1445 in Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England; died about 1492 in England.
2. Sir Richard CORBET, Sr. was born about 1448 in Moreton Corbet, Wem, Shropshire, England; was christened in May 1451 in Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England, United Kingdom; died on 6 Dec 1493 in Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England, United Kingdom; was buried on 6 Dec 1493 in Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England, United Kingdom.
3. Mary CORBET was born about 1448 in Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England, United Kingdom; and died.
4. Elizabeth CORBET was born in 1450 in England; and died.
5. Anna CORBET was born about 1450 in Moreton Corbet, Wem, Shropshire, England; and died.
6. Roger CORBET, Jr. was born about 1452 in <, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England>.
7. Robert CORBET was born about 1453 in <, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England>; died after 1477.
8. John CORBET was born about 1454 in <, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England>; and died.

Elizabeth married William STANLEY, Viscount Of Chamberlain before Nov 1452 in <, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England>. William (son of Sir. Thomas STANLEY, Baron and Lady Joan GOUSHILL, Baroness Of Stanley) was born in 1427 in Lathom, Ormskirk, Lancashire, England; died on 16 Feb 1494-1495 in Tower Of London, Middlesex, England (Beheaded). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Jane STANLEY was born about 1463 in <, Moreton Corbet, Shropshire, England>; died about 1525.

Elizabeth married John II TIPTOFT, Earl Of Worcester about Sep 1467 in <, Great Eversden, Cambridge, England>. John was born on 8 May 1427 in Great Eversden, Caxton, Cambridgeshire, England; died on 18 Oct 1470 in Tower Hill, London, Middlesex, England (Beheaded); was buried in Black Friars, London, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• AFN: 9HFQ-37
• FamilySearch ID: LC5Z-R53
• LifeSketch: ; SIR THOMAS HOPTON, KNIGHT was born about 1399 of Hopton, Suffolk, England, to unknown parents. He married Eleanor Lucy about 1433 of Hopton, Suffolk, England.
• Title (Nobility): ; Sir Knight
• Reference Number: HWS100907
• _UID: A8D75BFDC34A4E27A818F7D6898DF4392975

Thomas married Eleanor LUCY in 1425 in Hopton Castle, Shropshire, England. Eleanor (daughter of Walter LUCY, Of Newington & Richards Castle, Sir and Eleanor L' ARCEDEKNE) was born about 1407 in Wapenham, Northamptonshire, England; died before 1460. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• FamilySearch ID: LCPP-Q9H
• LifeSketch: ; SIR THOMAS HOPTON, KNIGHT was born about 1399 of Hopton, Suffolk, England, to unknown parents. He married Eleanor Lucy about 1433 of Hopton, Suffolk, England.
• _UID: B8BF843FDA304DFB9C2395591492DDD18DDA
• Alt. Death: 22 Jun 1460, Worcester, Worcestershire, England, United Kingdom

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• FamilySearch ID: 9H8S-J86

Thomas married Joanne DE MORTIMER. Joanne was born about 1364 in Wigmore, Herefordshire, England, United Kingdom; died after 1396. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• FamilySearch ID: LCV2-4PP

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• FamilySearch ID: GQ1H-C87
• _UID: 74C9509FAFBE43779E17CF1FF05E24238BF0

Notes:

WALTER LUCY, son and heir, was aged 40 and (much] more when he succeeded his father. His marriage made him a landowner in the West of England; as early as 1415 he was a commissioner in the marches of Wales, and later justice of the peace, and commisioner on several occasions in Hereford, Salop, and Worcs. In 1416 he was a knight, though it was as plain Walter Lucy, of Richard's Castle, that he had protection on going to the French war, January 1419/20, in the company of the Earl of March.

He married, in or before May 1385, Eleanor, elder daughter and coheir of Sir Warin ARCEDEKNE, by Elizabeth, daughter of Sir John TALBOT, of Richard's Castle. He died 4 October 1444. His widow died 20 July 1447. [Complete Peerage VIII:261-2, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Walter married Eleanor L' ARCEDEKNE before May 1385 in Cornwall, England. Eleanor was born in 1383 in Richard's Castle, Ludlow, Herefordshire, England; died on 20 Jul 1447. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• FamilySearch ID: GJ7C-51H
• Name: Alianore ARCHDEACON
• _UID: 801F38A01BBA4510A916AF921E1CD19C4865

Notes:

He [Walter de Lucy] married, in or before May 1385, Eleanor, elder daughter and coheir of Sir Warin ARCEDEKNE, by Elizabeth, daughter of Sir John TALBOT, of Richard's Castle. He died 4 October 1444. His widow died 20 July 1447. [Complete Peerage VIII:261-2, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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Married:
I question the marriage date.

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• FamilySearch ID: L4WF-BJD
• Title (Nobility): ; Sir Knight
• _UID: 2C507EE6B1FC47C2ACEEBCB5C2E809A1F500

Notes:

REYNOLD LUCY, son and heir, was aged 40 and more at his father's death, and a knight already in 1387. He married, before February 1378/9, Margaret, whose parentage is not known. He died 9 November 1437. [Complete Peerage VIII:261, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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From soc.genealogy.medieval:

Dear Newsgroup ~

The immigrants Robert Abell, Richard More of the Mayflower and Rev. John Oxenbridge are lineal descendants of Reginald Lucy, died 1437, of Dallington, co. Northampton, and his wife, Margaret. Until now, Margaret Lucy's identity and parentage have been unknown. However, recently I came across this couple's marriage license in an obscure episcopal register:

"Kal. Jul. [1 July] 1369. At Heywod. To Reginald de Lucy, son of Sir Geoffrey de Lucy, and Margaret, daughter of Sir John de Moubrey, to be married in the chapel within Bretteby [Bretby] Castle [co. Derby]" [Reference: Lichfield Episcopal Registers, Register of [Bishop] Robert de Stretton, published in William Salt Archaeological Society, n.s., 8 (1905): 47].

As indicated by the license quoted above, the bride's name was Margaret Mowbray, daughter of Sir John de Mowbray. Due to the name, chronology and place of marriage, Margaret Mowbray can be readily identified as a hitherto unknown daughter of Sir John de Mowbray, 4th Lord Mowbray, by his wife, Elizabeth, daughter and heiress of John de Segrave, 4th Lord Segrave, of Bretby Castle, co. Derby.

In this case, the place of marriage is significant as Bretby Castle was one of the holdings of the Segrave family and fell to Mowbray family on the marriage of Elizabeth Segrave to John de Mowbray, 4th Lord Mowbray. This was presumably one of the Segrave family's principal residences, as Elizabeth's father, John de Segrave, prepared his will in 1352 at Bretby [Reference: Complete Peerage, 11 (1949): 609]. I assume this license was missed by Lucy and Mowbray researchers as the Lucy family was seated principally at Northampton, whereas the Mowbray family's chief holdings were in cos. Lincoln and York. One would not expect to look in Derbyshire for a marriage license for this couple.

The newly discovered Margaret Mowbray gives the immigrants, Robert Abell, Richard More and John Oxenbridge an all new descent from King Edward I plus many other interesting connections. For newsgroup interest, I have prepared the descent down to Robert Abell. For fuller particulars of the Lucy and allied families, please see the forthcoming 3rd edition of Plantagenet Ancestry.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

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1. Edward I, King of England, married Margaret of France.

2. Thomas of Brotherton, Earl of Norfolk, died 1338, married Alice de
Hales.

3. Margaret of Brotherton, died 1399, married John de Segrave, 4th
Lord Segrave, born about 1315, died 1353.

4. Elizabeth Segrave, born 1338, married in 1349 John de Mowbray, 4th
Lord Mowbray, died 1368.

5. Margaret Mowbray, living 1393, dead before 1401, married by license
dated 1 July 1369 (as above) Reginald Lucy, Knt., of Dallington, co.
Northampton, born about 1360, died 1437.

6. Walter Lucy, knt., of Dallington, co. Northampton, died 1444. He
married Eleanor l'Arcedeckne, born about 1383, died 1447.

7. Eleanor Lucy, dead before 1460, married Thomas Hopton, Knt., of
Staunton-on-Arrow, co. Hereford, and Hopton Castle, Salop, born about
1399, living 1445.

8. Elizabeth Hopton, born about 1427, died 1498, married about 1448
Roger Corbet, Knt., of Moreton Corbet, Salop, died 1467.

9. Richard Corbet, Knt., of Moreton Corbet, Salop, died 1493, married
Elizabeth Devereux.

10. Robert Corbet, Knt., of Moreton Corbet, Salop, died 1513, married
Elizabeth Vernon.

11. Dorothy Corbet, married Richard Mainwaring, Knt., of Ightfield,
Salop, died 1558.

12. Arthur Mainwaring, Knt., of Ightfield, Salop, died 1590, married
Margaret Mainwaring.

13. Mary Mainwaring, married Richard Cotton, Esq., of Combermere, co.
Chester, died 1602.

14. Frances Cotton, married George Abell, Gent., of Hemington (in
Lockington), co. Leicester, died 1630.

15. Robert Abell, born about 1605, immigrant to New England.

Reynold married Margaret De MOWBRAY on 1 Jul 1369 in Bretby Castle, Derbyshire, England. Margaret (daughter of John de MOWBRAY and Elizabeth De SEGRAVE) was born about 1362 in Epworth, Isle Of Axholme, Lincolnshire, England; died before 1401. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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From soc.genealogy.medieval:

Dear Newsgroup ~

The immigrants Robert Abell, Richard More of the Mayflower and Rev. John Oxenbridge are lineal descendants of Reginald Lucy, died 1437, of Dallington, co. Northampton, and his wife, Margaret. Until now, Margaret Lucy's identity and parentage have been unknown. However, recently I came across this couple's marriage license in an obscure episcopal register:

"Kal. Jul. [1 July] 1369. At Heywod. To Reginald de Lucy, son of Sir Geoffrey de Lucy, and Margaret, daughter of Sir John de Moubrey, to be married in the chapel within Bretteby [Bretby] Castle [co. Derby]" [Reference: Lichfield Episcopal Registers, Register of [Bishop] Robert de Stretton, published in William Salt Archaeological Society, n.s., 8 (1905): 47].

As indicated by the license quoted above, the bride's name was Margaret Mowbray, daughter of Sir John de Mowbray. Due to the name, chronology and place of marriage, Margaret Mowbray can be readily identified as a hitherto unknown daughter of Sir John de Mowbray, 4th Lord Mowbray, by his wife, Elizabeth, daughter and heiress of John de Segrave, 4th Lord Segrave, of Bretby Castle, co. Derby.

In this case, the place of marriage is significant as Bretby Castle was one of the holdings of the Segrave family and fell to Mowbray family on the marriage of Elizabeth Segrave to John de Mowbray, 4th Lord Mowbray. This was presumably one of the Segrave family's principal residences, as Elizabeth's father, John de Segrave, prepared his will in 1352 at Bretby [Reference: Complete Peerage, 11 (1949): 609]. I assume this license was missed by Lucy and Mowbray researchers as the Lucy family was seated principally at Northampton, whereas the Mowbray family's chief holdings were in cos. Lincoln and York. One would not expect to look in Derbyshire for a marriage license for this couple.

The newly discovered Margaret Mowbray gives the immigrants, Robert Abell, Richard More and John Oxenbridge an all new descent from King Edward I plus many other interesting connections. For newsgroup interest, I have prepared the descent down to Robert Abell. For fuller particulars of the Lucy and allied families, please see the forthcoming 3rd edition of Plantagenet Ancestry.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah