Christopher TALBOT

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• AFN: 8N06-ZG
• Reference Number: HWS34261
• _UID: E52F695C4763447A80F9247C1BBCF2476AE0

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• Death: ; Battle of Northhampton
• Earl of Shrewsbury: , Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England
• FamilySearch ID: L1SH-R74
• LifeSketch: ; SIR JOHN TALBOT 2nd EARL OF SHREWBURY KNIGHTwas born 12 December 1413, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England, to General John Talbot Earl (1387-1453) and Baroness Maud Neville (1391-1423.) He married Lady Elizabeth Butler before 1445, Astley, Warwickshire, Eng
• _UID: 6EC16F83B72E4A1B9E0A68197DA708E6A64F

Notes:

Sir John Talbot, KG, b. 1413, d. 10 July 1460, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury, Lord Treasurer of England; m. c 1444-48, Elizabeth Butler, b. 1420, d. 8 Sep 1473. [Ancestral Roots]

Note: Marriage date is off--doesn't agree with 7-34, which is on the opposite page, nor with CP.

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EARLDOM OF SHREWSBURY (V, 2)

JOHN (TALBOT), EARL OF SHREWSBURY, LORD TALBOT, &c., also EARL OF WATERFORD [IRL], 1st son and heir by 1st wife; born about 1413; K.B. 19 May 1426, at Leicester; served in France 1434 and 1442; on the Commission of the Peace, co. Derby, 23 November 1441; co. York (West Riding) 16 March 1441/ 2; Herts, 18 May 1443; Notts, 27 November 1443; King's Knight, before 27 May 1443; Chancellor of Ireland, 12 August 1446; Commissioner to treat for a loan to maintain the war, cos. Derby, Notts, Salop, 25 September 1449; Commissioner of Oyer and Terminer, Kent, 2 February 1449/50; P.C. before 21 November 1453; one of the Lords who undertook to keep the sea for 3 years, April 1454; Commissioner to raise money for the defence of Calais, 14 May 1455; summoned to Parliament 26 May 1455 to 26 May 1458; joint Farmer of the subsidy and alnage of cloths, co. and city of York and Kingston upon Hull, 5 August 1455. He was Treasurer of England 5 October 1456 till October 1458; nominated K.G. before 13 May, installed 14 May 1457; joint Keeper of the King's mews and falcons, 20 October 1457; Chief Butler for life, 6 May 1458; Chief justice of Chester, 24 February 1458/9; Steward of Wakefield 1459; Steward of Ludlow, 20 June 1460.

He married, before March 1444/5, Elizabeth, daughter of James (BUTLER), 4th EARL OF ORMOND [IRL], by his 1st wife, Joan, daughter of William (BEAUCHAMP), LORD ABERGAVENNY. He died 10 July 1460, being slain (with his brother Sir Christopher Talbot) at the battle of Northampton, fighting on the Lancastrian side, and was buried (with his mother) in Worksop Priory. M.I. His widow appears to have intended to take the veil after his death, but she had a Royal licence to marry whom she pleased without impeachment or hindrance, 6 February 1463/4. She died 8 and was buried 11 September 1473, in Shrewsbury Abbey. M.I. [Complete Peerage XI:704-5, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

John married Lady Elizabeth BUTLER before Mar 1445 in , Ormond, Leinster, Ireland. Elizabeth (daughter of James IV Le BUTLER, Earl Of Ormund and Joan BEAUCHAMP, Countess Of Ormond) was born on 21 Dec 1421 in Kilkenny Castle, Kildare, Leinster, Ireland; died on 8 Sep 1473 in Shrewsbury Abbey, Shropshire, England; was buried on 11 Sep 1473 in Abbey, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• _UID: FB9FBB161B4B40CE8314EEF785B36BCAC86C

Notes:

Elizabeth Butler, b. 1420, d. 8 Sep 1473; m. c 1444-45, Sir John Talbot, KG, b. 1413, d. 10 July 1460, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury, Lord Treasurer of England. [Ancestral Roots]
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He [John Talbot] married, before March 1444/5, Elizabeth, daughter of James (BUTLER), 4th EARL OF ORMOND [IRL], by his 1st wife, Joan, daughter of William (BEAUCHAMP), LORD ABERGAVENNY. He died 10 July 1460, being slain (with his brother Sir Christopher Talbot) at the battle of Northampton, fighting on the Lancastrian side, and was buried (with his mother) in Worksop Priory. M.I. His widow appears to have intended to take the veil after his death, but she had a Royal licence to marry whom she pleased without impeachment or hindrance, 6 February 1463/4. She died 8 and was buried 11 September 1473, in Shrewsbury Abbey. M.I. [Complete Peerage XI:704-5, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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• FamilySearch ID: LBXX-N35
• MilitaryService: ; General in the Hundred years War
• Name: John TALBOT
• Name: Old TALBOT
• _UID: E5D4D584D5024C6BB67F0D723D57FB9F8222
• Title (Nobility): 26 Oct 1409; 6th Baron Furnivalle

Notes:

Sir John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury (technically the Earldom was designated as being of "Salop" or "Shropshire" but ever afterwards, indeed in the grantee's lifetime, its bearers have been known as Earls of "Shrewsbury") and the 1st Earl of Waterford, so created 20 May 1442 and 17 July 1446 (when also made Hereditary Steward of Ireland) respectively, though called to Parliament 26 Oct 1409 by writs made out to Lord (Baron) de Furnyvall/de Halomshire in right of his 1st wife during her lifetime and as Lord (Baron) Talbot of Hallamshire) afterwards, also according to later doctrine 7th Lord (Baron) Talbot and 7th or 10th Lord (Baron) Strange (of Blackmere) on his niece Ankaret's death 1421, KG (1424), JP (Derbys Feb 1407/8, Salop & Staffs March 1409/10); b. c 1384; King's Esquire 1407; knighted by 1413, King's Lieutenant in Ireland Feb 1413/4 and March 1444/5, Justiciar of Ireland Jan-April 1425, campaigned Hundred Years War: Battle of Verneuil 1424, took Laval March 1427/8, also Nogent-le-Roi and was at Siege of Orleans 1428-29, commander at Battle of Patay June 1429 (captured but subsequently ransomed), took Patay 1433, Joigny 1434, Beaumont-su-Oise May 1434, Creil June 1434 and Clermont, created by Henry VI Count of Clermont end Beauvoisis (part of a policy pursued by Henrys V and VI of making their chief commanders nobles in English-occupied France with French fiefs), present at Siege of Saint-Denis Sep 1435, retook Pays de Caux 1436/7, held Le Croty 1437, Marshal of France by 6 April 1437, took Longueville 1438, reinforced Mezux 1439 and Pontoise several times, destroyed Poissy 1441, conducted Siege of Dieppe 1442, Keeper of Porchester Castle and Governor of Portsmouth Feb 1451/2, Lieutenant of Aquitaine 1452, retook Bordeaux Oct 1452 took Fronsac March 1452/3, finally killed with his 4th son (3rd here noticed) at the rout of Castillon (the last battle of the Hundred Years War) 17 July 1453;

married 1st by 12 May 1406/7 Maud, Baroness Furnivall(e) in her own right according to later doctrine (d. c 1423), daughter and heiress of Thomas Neville, 5th Lord (Baron) Furnivall(e) in right of his 1st wife, and had issue. The 1st Earl married 2nd 6 Sep 1425 Lady Margaret Beauchamp (died 14 June 1467), eldest daughter and coheir of Richard, Earl of Warwick by his 1st wife Elizabeth (only child of 5th Lord (Baron) Berkeley of the 1295 creation, and deemed by later doctrine to have been Baroness Berkeley and Baroness Lisle in her own right, though on her death, they would have fallen into abeyance between her three daughter and coheirs even by the same later doctrine. [Burke's Peerage]

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Sir John Talbot, KG, b. c 1384, slain at Castillon 17 July 1453, Earl of Shrewsbury; m. (1) 1406/7 Maud de Neville, Lady Furnivall, b. c 1392, d. c 1423, daughter of Thomas Nevill, Lord Furnivall, by his wife, Joan Furinvall, Lady Furnivall. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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BARONY of TALBOT (VII)

BARONY of FURNIVALLE (IV, 1)

EARLDOM of WATERFORD (I)

EARLDOM of SHREWSBURY (IV, 1)

John (Talbot), Lord Talbot, Lord Furnivalle (of Blackmere), 2nd son of Richard (Talbot), Lord Talbot, by Ankaret, according to modern doctrine suo jure Baroness Strange (of Blackmere), daughter and eventually heir of Sir John Lestraunge, Lord Lestraunge or Lord Strange (of Blackmere), of Whitchurch, Salop, b. about 1384; by his 1st marriage, before 5 Apr 1407, with Maud, according to modern doctrine, suo jure Baroness Furnivalle, he acquired the great family estates of the family of Furnivalle in Hallamshire, of which the castle of Sheffield was the caput, and, in consequence thereof, he was summoned to Parliament as Lord Furnivalle or Lord Talbot (of Hallamshire), from 26 Oct 1409 to 26 Feb 1420 by writs directed to Johanni Talbot, with the additions: domino de Furnyvall, or de Halomshire. He witnessed, as Johannes, Dominus de Farnevale, the agreement between Henry, Prince of Wales, and Rees ap Llewelyn, for the surrender of Aberystwyth, 12 Sep 1407. He was King's Esquire, bef. 25 Apr 1407, when he was granted the keeping of the castle and lordship of Montgomery during the minority of Edmund, Earl of March; on the Commission of the Peace, Derbyshire, 7 Feb 1407/8; Salop and Staffordshire, 14 Mar 1409/10; knighted bef. 15 July 1413; committed to the Tower, 16 Nov 1413 (a); Commissioner to arrest and imprison Lollards, 11 Jan 1413/4; Commissioner to enforce the Statute of Leicester against the Lollards, 28 July 1414. He was appointed King's Lieuteneant of Ireland for 6 years, with power to nominate a Deputy, 24 Feb 1413/4, being sworn in 13 Nov. He left Ireland, 7 Feb 1415/6, was present at the reception of Sigismund, King of the Romans (afterwards Emperor), at Dover, May 1416, returned to Ireland, Apr 1418, but left again, July 1419. By the death, 13 Dec 1421, of his niece Ankaret, according to modern doctrine suo jure Baroness Talbot, and the consequent failure of the issue of his elder brother Gilbert, Lord Talbot, etc, he became Lord Talbot (1331) and Lord Strange (of Blackmere) (1308). He was also, by inheritance from his great-grandmother, Elizabeth, wife of Richard, 2nd Lord Talbot, lord of the honor of Wexford, in Ireland.

He was with Henry VI at Windsor, 28 Sep 1422; ordered to prevent riots on the Welsh marches, 3 Oct 1422; nominated KG, 6 May 1424; Justiciar of Ireland Jan-Apr 1425. He was at the battle of Verneuil, 17 Aug 1424; Capt. of Coutances and Pont de l'Arche, 1 Jan 1427/8; took Laval 13 Mar 1427/8, Capt. of Falaise, 8 Nov 1428; took part in the capture of Nogent-le-Roi, and the siege of Orleans, 1428-9. He was one of the commanders at the battle of Patay, 18 June 1429, where he fought on foot with archers and was taken prisoner. He was exchanged for Poton de Xaintrailles, July 1433, and joined the Duke of Burgundy in his campaign, when Patay was taken, July 1433. In 1434, after a visit to England, he returned in command of 800 men and, after capturing Joigny on his way to Paris, took Beaumont-sur-Oise in May, Creil in June and Clermont, when Henry VI created him Count of Clermont en Beauvoisis. He was at the siege of Saint-Denis in Sep 1435; recovered the Pays de Caux 1436; defeated la Hire at Ris near Rouen, end of 1436; captured Ivry and surprised Pontoise, Jan-Feb 1436/7; saved Le Crotoy from the Duke of Burgundy, 1437; Marshal of France, bef. 6 Apr 1437; captured Longueville and other castles in the Pays de Caux 1438; revictualled Meaux 1439; at the siege and capture of Harfleur, and was made Capt. of the town, 1440; granted a pension of 300 gold salus a quarter, 3 Dec 1440; revictualled Pontoise several times and sacked Poissy 1441; Lord of Grasville-Sainte-Honorine bef. 1442; besieged Dieppe 1442. For his services he was created, 20 May 1442, Earl of Salop, in tail male; but he and his successors have alway been known as Earls of Shrewsbury. He had a licence for good service in France to absent himself from Ireland for 10 years and to receive all rents from his possessions in Wexford and elsewhere, 16 Mar 1442/3; granted for life 60 marks per annum at the Exchequer and 40 marks per annum from the petty custom in the port of London, 2 Mar 1443/4; godfather fo Elizabeth of York, Rouen, 22 Sep 1444; one of the Lords who welcomed Margaret of Anjou at Rouen, 22 Mar 1444/5; received outside London, Louis de Bourbon, Comte de Vendome, and the other French Ambassadors, 16 July 1445. He was reappointed King's Leiutenant of Ireland for 7 years, 12 Mar 1444/5, and was created 17 July 1446, Earl of Waterford [I], and made Hereditary Steward of Ireland. In 1447 he was one of the Commissioners appointed to treat with the Commissioners of Charles VII, 18 Aug 1448; one of the hostages for the surrender of Rouen, which he had bravely defended, Oct 1449. At the surrender of Falaise, 20 July 1450, he was held quit of everything in which he could be bound under the agreement made at Rouen, provided that he went to Rome, from which city he returned to England, Dec 1450.

Commissioner for the subsidy, London and Middlesex, 23 Jan 1450/1; Surrey and Sussex, Southampton and Wilts, 20 May 1451; Wales, 30 July 1452; Keeper of the Castle and Town of Porchester and Gov. of Portsmouth (for life), 17 Feb 1451/2. He was appointed to command the Army on the sea, Mar 1451/2, having been with the King at Canterbury on Candlemas Day, and Lieutenant of Aquitaine, 1 Sep 1452. After landing in the Medoc in Oct, he recovered Bordeaux, 23 Oct, and most of the Bordelais; captured Fronsac, Mar 1452/3. He attempted to relieve Castillon on the Dordogne, but in an attack on the French entrenched camp, he was slain, together with his son John, Lord Lisle, 17 July 1453.

He m. 1stly, bef. 12 Mar 1406/7, Maud, according to modern doctrine suo jure Baroness Furnivalle, elder daughter of Thomas (Neville), Lord Furnivalle, and only child and heir of (his 1st wife) Joan, according to modern doctrine suo jure Baroness Furnivalle, only daughter and heir of William (de Furnivalle), Lrod Furnivalle. She, who was b. c 1392 sat at Queen Katherine's Coronation banquet in Westminster Hall, 21 Feb 1420/1. She d. about 1423 and was buried in Worksop Priory, Notts. He m. 2ndly, 6 Sep 1425, at Warwick Castle, Margaret, 1st daughter of Richard (Beauchamp), Earl of Warwick, by his 1st wife, to whom she was coheir, Elizabeth, only child and heir of Thomas (Berkeley), Lord Berkeley, which Elizabeth was, according to modern doctrine, suo jure Baroness Lisle and Baroness Berkeley. He d. as stated above, 17 July 1453, and was buried at St. Alkmund's, Whitchurch, Salop, M.I. Will dated 1 Sep 1452, at Portsmouth, probated 18 Jan 1453/4. Writs of diem cl. extr. 10 Sep, 24 Oct, and 28 Oct 1453. His widow, who was b. in 1404, d. 14 June 1467, and was buried in the Jesus Chapel of St. Paul's. [Complete Peerage XI:698-704]

(a) At the same date he and his elder brother Gilbert entered into recognisances for 4,000 marks each, to be levied in Salop, to be of good behaviour. It has been suggested that his imprisonment may have been connected with the rising of Sir John Oldcastle, but his appointment as a Commissioner to arrest Lollards and to enforce the Statute of Leicester makes this improbable. He may have been committed to the Tower and subsequently appointed Lieutenant of Ireland to stop a feud between him and the Earl of Arundel arising from a dispute about some land in Shropshire. On the day on which he was committed to the Tower, Arundel entered into a recognisance for 10,000 marks to be of good behaviour, and Edmund, Earl of March, John, Earl Marshal, and Sir William de Roos entered into like cognisances for Arundel's good behaviour.

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From: Douglas Richardson ([email protected])
Subject: CP Correction: Marriage of John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, and Maud Neville
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2003-05-16 10:09:58 PST


Dear Newsgroup ~

Complete Peerage 11 (1949): 702 (sub Shrewsbury) states that John Talbot (died 1453), 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, married as his first wife before 12 March 1406/7 Maud Neville, elder daughter of Thomas Neville, Lord Furnival. No source is provided for the date of this marriage, which is a rather unusual oversight for Complete Peerage.

I've recently encountered a London record which indicates that John and Maud Talbot were actually married before 8 March 1406[/7]. On this date they were suing John Penros regarding their free tenement in the parish of St. Andrew Holborne [Reference: A.H. Thomas, Select Pleas and Memoranda of the City of London, A.D. 1381-1412, published 1932, pg. 279].

Maud (Neville) Talbot inherited this tenement from her grandfather, William Furnival, who in turn acquired the tenement in 1350 [see Husting Roll, 104 (76) (77) 149) (150)]. According to the editor, Mr. Thomas, the tenement was known as "Fournyvalles Inne" and consisted of 2 messuages and 13 shops. Maud's father, Thomas Neville, Lord Furnival, was suing Maud's widowed grandmother, Thomasine Furnival, for the same tenement the previous year (see Thomas, ibid., pg. 276).

John Talbot and Maud Neville are in the ancestry of two New World immigrants as follows:

1. Robert Abell

2. Grace Chetwode

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

E-mail: [email protected]

John married Maude De NEVILLE, 6th Baroness Furnival before 8 Mar 1406-1407 in England. Maude (daughter of Thomas NEVILLE, 5th Baron Furnival, Of Hallam and Joan FURNIVAL) was born on 21 Dec 1392 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England; died on 31 May 1423 in Priory, Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England; was buried on 22 Dec 1423 in Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• FamilySearch ID: GXQ1-PJM
• _UID: 5A699F6282D24A5D88EC3DC36199B09D7AF7

Notes:

Maud, Baroness Furnivall(e) in her own right according to later doctrine (d. c 1423), daughter and heiress of Thomas Neville, 5th Lord (Baron) Furnivall(e) in right of his 1st wife. [Burke's Peerage]

Maud de Nevill(e), de jure Baroness Furinvall(e) in her own right; b. c 1392; m. by 12 Mar 1306/7, as his 1st wife, Sir John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury and Waterford, who, however, before his creation as Earl in 1442 was called to Parliament as Lord (Baron) De Furnyvall or De Halomshire (sic.) in right of his wife 26 Oct 1409, and d. c 1423. [Burke's Peerage, p. 2241]

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Maud de Neville, Lady Furnivall, b. c 1392, d. c 1423, daughter of Thomas Nevill, Lord Furnivall, by his wife, Joan Furinvall, Lady Furnivall. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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He [John Talbot] m. 1stly, bef. 12 Mar 1406/7, Maud, according to modern doctrine suo jure Baroness Furnivalle, elder daughter of Thomas (Neville), Lord Furnivalle, and only child and heir of (his 1st wife) Joan, according to modern doctrine suo jure Baroness Furnivalle, only daughter and heir of William (de Furnivalle), Lrod Furnivalle. She, who was b. c 1392 sat at Queen Katherine's Coronation banquet in Westminster Hall, 21 Feb 1420/1. She d. about 1423 and was buried in Worksop Priory, Notts. [Complete Peerage XI:698-704]

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BARONY of FURNIVALLE (VI)

MAUD NEVILLE, suo jure Baroness FURNIVALLE, elder daughter and heir of Thomas NEVILLE, LORD FURNIVALLE, and only child of her mother Joan, daughter and heir of William, LORD FURNIVALLE. She married, before 12 March 1406/7, as 1st wife, John TALBOT, 2nd son of Sir Richard TALBOT, of Goodrich [LORD TALBOT], by Ankarette, his wife. She was aged 15 and more at her father's death. On 3 May 1407 the King took the fealty of John Talbot, and John and his wife, the said Maud, had livery of all the lands which her father had held by the courtesy after the death of Joan his wife, and also of Maud's moiety of the tenements which her father had held in his demesne as of fee. [Complete Peerage V:591, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Notes:

Alt. Marriage:
1st wife

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• AFN: 9HL7-1B
• Alt. Burial: Saint Marys Abbey, Dublin, County Dublin, Ireland
• Earl of Ormund: , Ormond, Leinster, Ireland
• FamilySearch ID: LHN8-SBG
• TitleOfNobility: ; 4th Earl of Ormond
• Name: James IV Le BOTILLER
• Reference Number: HWS33088
• _UID: F31259AE6F514AB38F69D87B509101665CF9
• TitleOfNobility: 1405; appointed Lord Deputy of Ireland
• had a grant of the temporalities of the See of Cashel for 10 years,: 1440; following the death of the Archbishop of Cashel, Richard O'Hedian

Notes:

James Butler, 4th Earl of Ormond (23 May 1393 ? 23 August 1452) was the son of James Butler, 3rd Earl of Ormond. He was called "The White Earl," and was esteemed for his learning. He was the patron of the Irish literary work, "The Book of the White Earl." His career was marked by his long and bitter feud with the Talbot family.

James Butler was the second but eldest surviving son of James Butler, 3rd Earl of Ormond, and his first wife Anne Welles, daughter of John de Welles, 4th Baron Welles by Maude de Ros, daughter of William de Ros, 2nd Baron de Ros of Helmsley.

He prevailed upon Henry V to create a King of Arms in Ireland, with the title of Ireland King of Arms (altered by Edward VI to Ulster King of Arms), and he gave lands in perpetuity to the College of Heralds, London. He was appointed Lord Deputy of Ireland in 1405, and Lord Lieutenant of Ireland in 1420, 1425, and 1442. He appointed James FitzGerald, 6th Earl of Desmond as Seneschal of Imokilly in 1420.

His term as Lord Lieutenant was marked by his bitter feud with the Talbot family, headed by John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, and his brother Richard, Archbishop of Dublin. The dispute reached its height in 1442 when Archbishop Talbot, supposedly acting on behalf of the Irish Parliament, presented the Privy Council with a long list of grievances against Ormond, who was accused of being old and feeble (in fact he was only fifty, which was not considered a great age even in the fifteenth century), and of having lost most of his Irish estates through negligence; there were also vague references to treason and "other crimes which could not be named." The Council summoned Ormond to account for his actions: he defended himself vigorously, and made detailed counter-charges against the Archbishop. The Council took no action against him. Instead, it rebuked both sides of the dispute severely for disrupting the good governance of Ireland. The feud gradually cooled off, and friendly relations between the two families were finally established by the marriage of Ormond's daughter Elizabeth to Shrewsbury's son and heir John.

Ormond remained an influential figure in Irish politics, although his later years were troubled by fresh quarrels with the Earl of Desmond, with Giles Thorndon, the Treasurer of Ireland, with Thomas Fitzgerald, Prior of the Knights Hospitaller at Kilmainham, and with Richard Wogan, the Lord Chancellor of Ireland. Wogan, in particular, complained that he was no longer able to endure the burden of Ormond's "heavy lordship" and asked to be allowed to deputize his duties. Relations between Ormond and Prior Fitzgerald became so bad that in 1444 it was seriously suggested that they settle the matter through trial by combat, but King Henry VI intervened personally to persuade them to make peace.

In 1440, Ormond had a grant of the temporalities of the See of Cashel for ten years, following the death of the Archbishop of Cashel, Richard O'Hedian. He built the castles of Nenagh, Roscrea and Templemore in North County Tipperary and Tulleophelim (or Tullowphelim) in County Carlow. He gave the manor and advowson of Hickcote in Buckinghamshire to the Hospital of St Thomas of Acre in London, which was confirmed by the Parliament of England (in the third year of Henry VI) at the suit of his son.

Since his father-in-law had no surviving son, Ormond, in right of his second wife Elizabeth, claimed possession of the Earldom of Kildare, and for some years he was able to keep the legitimate heir out of his inheritance.

He died in Dublin on 23 August 1452 on his return from an expedition against Connor O'Mulrian, and was buried in St. Mary's Abbey near Dublin.

He married firstly, in 1413, Joan Beauchamp (1396? 1430), the daughter of William de Beauchamp, 1st Baron Bergavenny and Joan FitzAlan, by whom he had three sons and two daughters:

. James Butler, 5th Earl of Ormond, who died without any legitimate children.
. John Butler, 6th Earl of Ormond, who died without any legitimate children.
. Thomas Butler, 7th Earl of Ormond.
. Elizabeth Butler, who married John Talbot, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury.
. Anne Butler, who died unmarried.

He married secondly, by license dated 18 July 1432, Elizabeth FitzGerald (c. 1398 ? 6 August 1452), widow of John Grey, 2nd Baron Grey of Codnor (died 14 September 1430), and daughter of Gerald FitzGerald, 5th Earl of Kildare and his second wife Agnes Darcy, by whom he had no children.

-- Wikiwand: James Butler, 4th Earl of Ormond
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James Butler, 4th Earl of Ormond, Lieutenant of Ireland. Also known as the White Earl.

Son of James Butler and Anne Welles, daughter of John de Welle and Maud de Roos.

Husband of Joan de Beauchamp, daughter of William de Beauchamp and Joan FitzAlan Arundel. They had three sons and two daughters:
* Sir James, Knight of the Garter, 5th Earl of Ormond
* Sir John, 6th Earl of Ormond
* Sir Thomas, Knight of the Bath
* Elizabeth m John Talbot (created peace between the families)
* Anne

After Joan died, he remarried Elizabeth FitzGerald by papal dispensation dated 29 April 1432 and royal licence dated 18 July 1432, daughter of Gerald FitzMaurice and Agnes Darcy, widow of Sir John Grey who died 1430. They had no children.

1405 - appointed Lord Deputy of Ireland
1412 - accompanied Thomas, Earl of Lancaster to France
1420 - appointed Lieutenant of Ireland
1422 - Sir John Talbot arraigned him for treason, the crown ordered a stop to the proceedings
1430 - Joan died, buried at St Thomas of Acon
1432 - married Elizabeth FitzGerald
1442 - Archbishop Talbot present a long list of grievances concerning Butler to the Privy Council, who reprimanded both sides for "disrupting the good governance of Ireland."
1447 - accused of high treason by John Talbot, Earl of Shrewsbury, again, the crown came to his rescue declaring "no one should dare, on pain of his indignation, to revive the accusation or reproach of his conduct."
1452 - Elizabeth died, burial unknown

James Butler died estate at Ardee, Co Loth, Ireland on his return from an expedition against Connor O'Mulrian and was buried at St Mary's in Dublin.

James was called The White Earl and admired for his learning, and was the patron of the Irish literary work, 'The Book of the White Earl'. His political career was marred by a bitter feud with the Talbot family. He built the castles of Nenagh, Roscrea and Templemore in north Tipperary and Tulleophelim (or Tullowphelim) in County Carlow. He gave the manor and advowson of Hickcote in Buckinghamshire to the Hospital of St. Thomas D'Acres in London, which was confirmed by Parliament at the suit of his son.

-- Find a Grave: James le Butler IV
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James Butler 4th Earl of Ormonde
King of Arms, Lord Lieutenant of Island

James Butler, 4th Earl of Ormonde, b. 1392, d. 22 August 1452. He was the son of James Butler, 3rd Earl of Ormonde, and Anne Welles. He married, secondly, Lady Joan FitzGerald, daughter of Gerald FitzMaurice FitzGerald, 5th Earl of Kildare and Margaret Rocheford, in 1432. He died on 22 August 1452. James Butler, 4th Earl of Ormonde also went by the nick-name of 'the White Earl'. He gained the title of 4th Earl of Ormonde. He has an extensive biographical entry in the Dictionary of National Biography.

Children of James Butler, 4th Earl of Ormonde and Elizabeth Beauchamp:

1. Elizabeth Butler+ d. 8 Sep 1473

source: Rootsweb.com

James "the White Earl: Butler

James married Joan BEAUCHAMP, Countess Of Ormond before 28 Aug 1413 in Ormonde, Kerry, Munster, Ireland. Joan (daughter of Sir. William BEAUCHAMP, Baron and Joan FITZALAN, Baroness Of Abergavenny) was born about 1396 in Abergavenny, Gwent Uwch Coed, Monmouth, Wales; died on 3 Aug 1430 in , Shere, Surrey, England; was buried on 8 Aug 1430 in St. Thomas Acon, London, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• AFN: 9HL7-2H
• Countess of Ormond: Ormonde, Kerry, Munster, Ireland
• FamilySearch ID: LBMG-YKZ
• Reference Number: HWS20355
• _UID: 8C9F7DA682C4429FB126944CC39698708DF8

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• FamilySearch ID: 29Y9-CR1
• Title (Nobility): ; Baron of Wexford
• Name: Richard TALBOT
• _UID: 023084EF7DF64482BF423D74BC093E17AA09
• Occupation: 1384; Member of Parliament

Notes:

Sir Richard Talbot, 4th Lord (Baron) Talbot, also 1st Lord (Baron) Talbot of Blackmere, so created by writ of summons vp 3 March 1383/4, seemingly as a fresh creation albeit the territorial designation of the writ was worded as though in right of his wife; born c1361; knighted 1377; married by 23 Aug 1383 Ankaret (married 2nd as his 2nd wife Thomas Nevill(e), 5th Lord (Baron) Furnivall(e)/Nevill of Halumshire, and died 1 June 1413), sister and eventually sole heiress of John, 5th Lord (Baron) Strange (of Blackmere), thus becoming according to later doctrine Baroness Strange (of Blackmere) in her own right, and died 8 or 9 Sep 1396. [Burke's Peerage, p. 2604]

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Sir Richard Talbot, Lord Talbot, b. c 1361, d. 7-8 Sep 1396; m. bef. 12 Aug 1383 Ankaret Lestrange. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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BARONY OF TALBOT (IV)

RiCHARD (TALBOT), LORD TALBOT, son and heir, by 1st wife, was born about 1361; knighted by Richard II at his Coronation, 16 July 1377; was in Ireland with Edmund, Earl of March, January 1380/1. He was summoned to Parliament v.p., in consequence of his marriage to the heiress of Strange (of Blackmere), from 3 March 1383/4 to 17 December 1387, by writs directed Ricardo Talbot de Blakemere, whereby he is held to have become LORD TALBOT (of Blackmere). Having succeeded his father, 24 April 1387, he was summoned to Parliament also on 17 December 1387, by writ directed Ricardo Talbot de Godriche Castell; and he continued to be so summoned (and no longer as of Blackmere, until 13 November 1393. With his father he was summoned 13 June 1385, to be at Newcastle-on-Tyne, 14 July, for service against the Scots. Orders were given, 18 June 1387, for him to have full seisin of his father's lands, his homage being respited till Michaelmas following. After the death of John (de Hastinges), 3rd Earl of Pembroke, 30 or 31 December 1389, Lord Talbot was awarded the Honor of Wexford in Ireland, as coheir through Elizabeth Comyn, wife of the 2nd Lord Talbot. He was a Commissioner of array for Salop, 1 March 1391/2; and was in Ireland on the King's service, February 1394/5.

He married, before 23 August 1381 Ankaret, suo jure, according to modern doctrine, BARONESS STRANGE (of Blackmere), only daughter (who on 23 August 1383 became sole heir) of John (LESTRANGE), IV LORD STRANGE (of Blackmere), by Mary, daughter of Richard (FITZALAN), EARL OF ARUNDEL. He died 8 or 9 September 1396 in London, aged about 35. His widow, who was aged 22 in 1383, married, as his 2nd wife, between 8 March and 4 July 1401, Thomas (NEVILLE), LORD FURNIVALLE, who died s.p.m., 14 March 1406/7. She died 1 June 1413, aged about 52. [Complete Peerage XII/1:616-17, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Note: Ankaret's mother, Mary, was the daughter of Edmund, the 9th earl of Arundel, not Richard, the 10th earl (see Arundel, vol.1, p.244, note b). [Some Correction and Additions to the Complete Peerage]

Richard married Ankaret Baroness Le STRANGE in 1381 in Herefordshire, England. Ankaret (daughter of John 4Th Baron Le STRANGE, Of Blackmere, Sir and Mary (Isabel) FITZALAN) was born in Apr 1361 in Whitchurch, Shropshire, England; died on 1 Jun 1413; was buried after 1 Jun 1413 in Whitchurch, Shropshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events:

• FamilySearch ID: MYDN-HHR
• Title (Nobility): ; 7th Baroness of Blackmere
• Title (Nobility): ; Countess of Shrewsbury
• Name: Anghared
• Name: Matilda
• Name: Maud
• _UID: 5CFDFCDF64924CB49BD2D15C99460B87350B
• Alt. Death: 1 Jun 1413, Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England

Notes:

Ankaret (married 2nd as his 2nd wife Thomas Nevill(e), 5th Lord (Baron) Furnivall(e)/Nevill of Halumshire, and died 1 June 1413), sister and eventually sole heiress of John, 5th Lord (Baron) Strange (of Blackmere), thus becoming according to later doctrine Baroness Strange (of Blackmere) in her own right. [Burke's Peerage]

Ankaret, daughter and eventual heir of 1st Lord (Baron) Strange or Lestrange of the 1360 creation and widow of Lord (Baron) Talbot (of Blackmere). [Burke's Peerage, p. 14]

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Ankaret Lestrange, b. 1361 (age 22 in Aug 1383), d. 1 June 1413; m. (1) bef. 23 Aug 1383, Sir Richard Talbot. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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He [Richard Talbot] married, before 23 August 1381 Ankaret, suo jure, according to modern doctrine, BARONESS STRANGE (of Blackmere), only daughter (who on 23 August 1383 became sole heir) of John (LESTRANGE), IV LORD STRANGE (of Blackmere), by Mary, daughter of Richard (FITZALAN), EARL OF ARUNDEL. He died 8 or 9 September 1396 in London, aged about 35. His widow, who was aged 22 in 1383, married, as his 2nd wife, between 8 March and 4 July 1401, Thomas (NEVILLE), LORD FURNIVALLE, who died s.p.m., 14 March 1406/7. She died 1 June 1413, aged about 52. [Complete Peerage XII/1:616-17, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Note: Ankaret's mother, Mary, was the daughter of Edmund, the 9th earl of Arundel, not Richard, the 10th earl (see Arundel, vol.1, p.244, note b). [Some Correction and Additions to the Complete Peerage]

Other Events:

• FamilySearch ID: KCVC-JSJ
• _UID: E497ED7CCED447708EA73CCEB0C8F3E9D02B

Notes:

Thomas de Nevill(e), regarded as 5th Lord (Baron) Furnivall(e) in right of his wife, though called to Parliament by writ 20 Aug 1383 as Nevill of Halumshire (sic.); agreed in Parliament to clandestine incarceration of Richard II 23 Oct 1399, Keeper of Annandale and Constable of Lochmaben Castle in West Scottish Marches 23 Oct 1399, Keeper of Alnwick, Berwick, and Warkworth Castles 1403, member of great council of Henry IV 1404, Jt War Treasurer 1404-6, Treasurer of England July-Nov 1406; married 1st by 1 July 1379 Joan de Furnevalle, Baroness Furnivall(e) in her own right according to later doctrine (b. c 1369), daughter and heir of 5th Lord (Baron) Furnivalle of the 1295 creation and had issue. The 6th Lord (Baron) Furnivall(e)/Nevill of Halumshire; married 2nd by 4 July 1401 Ankaret, daughter and eventual heir of 1st Lord (Baron) Strange or Lestrange of the 1360 creation and widow of Lord (Baron) Talbot (of Blackmere), and dspm 14 March 1406/7. [Burke's Peerage]

Note: Joan was daughter and heir of 4th Lord (Baron) Furnivalle. BP had a missprint.

Thomas married Joan FURNIVAL before 1 Jul 1379 in 1st Wife. Joan (daughter of Baron William DE FURNIVAL and Thomasine, Baroness of Furnival) was born about 1375 in Sheffield, Yorkshire, England; died on 23 May 1395 in Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England; was buried in 1395 in Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events:

• FamilySearch ID: L4JK-VWS
• TitleOfNobility: ; Baroness of Furnival
• Name: Joan FURNIVAL

Other Events:

• AFN: 91QR-25
• FamilySearch ID: K2VY-NWR
• Reference Number: HWS34318
• _UID: F85C3A375132416E8796DED9D41BA6CE2EB3

James married Anne WELLS before 17 Jun 1385 in Kilkenny Castle, Kildare, Leinster, Ireland. Anne was born about 1367 in <, Well, Lincoln, England>; died after 1396. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events:

• AFN: 8HRW-ZD
• FamilySearch ID: LBF2-RZZ
• Reference Number: HWS41060
• _UID: 606015C1794E43CAA04270B5CC2307127901

Other Events:

• AFN: 8J5Q-5R
• Baron of Abergavenny: Abergavenny, Gwent Uwch Coed, Monmouth, Wales
• FamilySearch ID: LR3R-VL3
• Reference Number: HWS6253
• _UID: 8DC34C2141074A9190E05F0AB4B24889F073
• MilitaryService: 1375; Order of the Garter
• TitleOfNobility: 1383, France; Captain of Calais
• TitleOfNobility: 23 Jul 1392; 1st Baron Bergavenny
• Occupation: 1399, Pembrokeshire, Wales; Governor
• Occupation: 1399, Wales; Justiciar
• Will: 25 Apr 1408; dated
• Inquest: 5 Jun 1411

Notes:

William de Beauchamp, 1st Baron Bergavenny, KG (c. 1343 ? 8 May 1411) was an English peer.

Beauchamp was the fourth son of Thomas Beauchamp, 11th Earl of Warwick, and Katherine Mortimer. He served under Sir John Chandos during the Hundred Years' War, and was created a Knight of the Garter in 1376. He served as Captain of Calais in 1383.

Upon the death of his first cousin once removed, John Hastings, 3rd Earl of Pembroke on 30 December 1389, William inherited the lordship of Abergavenny, including Abergavenny Castle. He was summoned to Parliament on 23 July 1392 as "Willilmo Beauchamp de Bergavenny," by which he is held to have become Baron Bergavenny, a barony by writ. In 1399, he was appointed Justiciar of South Wales and Governor of Pembroke. He entailed the castle and Honour of Abergavenny on the issue male of his body, with remainder to his brother Thomas de Beauchamp, 12th Earl of Warwick and his heirs male; his wife enjoyed it in dower until her death in 1435. Bergavenny died in 1411 and was buried at Black Friars, Hereford.

Bergavenny married Lady Joan FitzAlan, daughter of Richard FitzAlan, 11th Earl of Arundel, and Elizabeth de Bohun, and they had the following children:

. Richard de Beauchamp, 1st Earl of Worcester, 2nd Baron Bergavenny (bef. 1397 ? 1422), married Isabel le Despenser, daughter of Thomas le Despenser, 1st Earl of Gloucester and Constance of York, by whom he had one daughter Elizabeth de Beauchamp, Baroness Bergavenny.
. Joan de Beauchamp (1396 ? 3 August 1430), married 28 August 1413 James Butler, 4th Earl of Ormond, son of James Butler, 3rd Earl of Ormond and Anne Welles, by whom she had five children, including Thomas Butler, 7th Earl of Ormond.

-- Wikiwand: William Beauchamp, 1st Baron Bergavenny
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Sir William Beauchamp, 1st Lord Bergavenny. Knight, Knight of the Garter, of Feckenham, Worcestershire. Constable of Castle and County of Pembroke. King's Chamberlain, Captain of Calais, Justice of South Wales.

Fourth of fifteen children and fourth of five sons of Thomas de Beauchamp and Katherine de Mortimer, born after 1344. Husband of Lady Joan FitzAlan Arundel, daughter of Richard de Arundel, beheaded for high treason against Richard II, and Elizabeth Bohun, married before 04 Mar 1393, the date of her father's will. They had one son and two daughters:
* Sir Richard, Knight of the Garter m Isabel Despenser
* Joan m James Butler
* Elizabeth

1358 - studied at Oxford until 1361
1358 - granted canonry of Sarum, but would give up a clerical career around 1361
1367 - served with John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster at the Battle of Najera in April
1367 - set out with his brother to join the crusades with the Knights of the Teutonic Order
1370 - Gascony campaign with John of Gaunt
1371 - at the capture of Limoges
1372 - siege of Montpaon
1373 - served John of Gaunt in France
1376 - vested as a Knight of the Garter
1380 - to Brittany to aid John de Montfort
1382 - commanded the assault and capture on Figueras
1383 - Captain of Calais
1386 - in Portugal with John of Gaunt
1386 - acquired the manors of Snitterfield, Warwickshire from Sir Thomas West
1389 - acquired the Castle of Abergavenny, Monmouthsire, titled Lord Abergavenny
1399 - Governor of Pembroke, Justiciar of South Wales

William died testate 08 May 1411, (inquest held June 5) and his will directed his remains to be buried next to and beneath the tomb of John Hastings, Earl of Pembroke at the Black Friars in Hereford.

His widow, Lady Joan, was found by inquisition to have "raised a murderous affray at Birmingham." She died in 1435 and was buried next to her husband at Black Friars.

-- Find a Grave: Sir William de Beauchamp

William married Joan FITZALAN, Baroness Of Abergavenny about 1396 in Abergavenny, Gwent Uwch Coed, Monmouth, Wales. Joan (daughter of Richard FITZALAN, 4th Earl of Arundel and Elizabeth DE BOHUN) was born in 1375 in Abergavenny, Gwent Uwch Coed, Monmouth, Wales; died on 14 Nov 1435; was buried in Black Friars, Hereford, Herefordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events:

• AFN: V9SC-FQ
• Alt. Burial: Assumption of Blessed Mary and St Nicholas, Etchingham, Rother District, East Sussex, England
• Baroness of Abergavenny: Abergavenny, Gwent Uwch Coed, Monmouth, Wales
• FamilySearch ID: LY3Z-GHL
• Reference Number: HWS20362
• _UID: 3B55CBF8D5004E06BED6FE80B85C12D084C1

Notes:

Joan de Beauchamp, Baroness Bergavenny (n?e FitzAlan; 1375 ? 14 November 1435) was an English noblewoman, and the wife of William de Beauchamp, 1st Baron Bergavenny of the Welsh Marches.

Lady Joan FitzAlan was born in 1375, at Arundel Castle, Sussex, England, one of the seven children of Richard Fitzalan, 11th Earl of Arundel, Earl of Surrey, and his first wife Elizabeth de Bohun. Her only surviving brother was Thomas Fitzalan, 12th Earl of Arundel, of whom Joan was his co-heiress. She had an older sister Lady Elizabeth FitzAlan who married as her second husband Thomas Mowbray, 1st Duke of Norfolk. Her paternal grandparents were Richard Fitzalan, 10th Earl of Arundel and Eleanor of Lancaster, and her maternal grandparents were William de Bohun, 1st Earl of Northampton and Elizabeth de Badlesmere.

On 3 April 1385, her mother died. Joan was about ten years old. Her father married secondly, Philippa Mortimer on 15 August 1390, by whom he had a son, John Fitzalan, who was born in 1394. John died sometime after 1397.

On 21 September 1397, Joan's father, the Earl of Arundel, who was also one of the Lords Appellant, was beheaded on Tower Hill, London, on charges of high treason against King Richard II of England. The Earl had always enjoyed much popularity with the citizens of London. His titles and estates were forfeited to the Crown.

On 23 July 1392, Joan was married to William de Beauchamp, 1st Baron Bergavenny (c.1344 - 8 May 1411) the son of Thomas de Beauchamp, 11th Earl of Warwick and Katherine Mortimer. He was more than thirty years Joan's senior.[citation needed]

The marriage produced a son and a daughter:

1. Richard de Beauchamp, 1st Earl of Worcester, 2nd Baron Bergavenny (born before 1397 ? died 1422), married Isabel le Despenser, daughter of Thomas le Despenser, 1st Earl of Gloucester and Constance of York, by whom he had one daughter Elizabeth de Beauchamp, Lady of Abergavenny.
2. Joan de Beauchamp (1396 ? 3 August 1430), married 28 August 1413 James Butler, 4th Earl of Ormond, son of James Butler, 3rd Earl of Ormond and Anne Welles, by whom she had five children, including Thomas Butler, 7th Earl of Ormond.
Death

Joan, Baroness Bergavenny, died on 14 November 1435, at the age of 60. She was buried in Black Friars, Hereford. Before she died she paid for 10.000 masses to be celebrated in her name, to make her time in Purgatory shorter. [1]

[1] Joan de Beauchamp, Baroness Bergavenny, "Wikipedia"




Birth:
Birth calculated (age 40 in 1415)