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Carney & Wehofer Family
Genealogy Pages
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 Abt 1101 - Yes, date unknown
Generation: 1
Generation: 2
| 2. | Henry Lord Of Clun De SAYE was born about 1073 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England (son of Robert De SAYE and Adeloyse); died in 1130 in Clun, Shropshire, England. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: L4RB-4XJ
- Name: Helias DE SAYE
- Occupation: ; Lord of Clun
- _UID: B70CE9CDCD974B09B41D6CBA7935A589048E
Notes:
Henry de Say was a Norman nobleman who lived in Clun near Shrewsbury, along the medieval Welsh Marches. He inherited the important fortification Clun Castle from his father, Robert de Say, in 1098. Henry died some time after 1130. His son was Helias de Say.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_de_Say
Henry married Adeliza FITZEDITH. Adeliza was born in 1081 in Clun, Shropshire, England; died in 1101. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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| 3. | Adeliza FITZEDITH was born in 1081 in Clun, Shropshire, England; died in 1101. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GQYR-7K8
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Generation: 3
| 4. | Robert De SAYE was born about 1055 in Sai (Saye), Orne, Normandie, France (son of Picot De SAYE and ADELOIA); died in 1098 in Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England; was buried in Abbey Of St-Martin DE Sees. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: G61Z-58N
- Name: Picot DE SAYE
- Name: Robert De SAI
- Name: Robert De SAY
- Name: Robert FITZPICO
- _UID: 5054D1BAF2F34FB3A0BB2605A61F0590F69F
Notes:
Source: lorenfamily.com
Robert married Adeloyse. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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| 5. | Adeloyse Other Events:
- _UID: 0292B9133EF84C2EB00DAC8BC28624AA1A0F
Children:
- 2. Henry Lord Of Clun De SAYE was born about 1073 in Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England; died in 1130 in Clun, Shropshire, England.
- William De SAYE was born about 1075 in Sawbridge, Hertfordshire, England; and died.
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Generation: 4
| 8. | Picot De SAYE was born about 1035 in Sai (Saye), Orne, Normandie, France (son of Robert De SAYE); died after 17 May 1086. Other Events:
- _UID: A1E7ACF3221748CCA20C12A55E089A855E3B
Notes:
Picot, who was a substantial under-tenant of Earl Roger of Montgomery at Clun and elsewhere in Shropshire, is shown by the devolution of his lands to have been Picot de Say. Robert, Abbot of St-Martin de Sees granted the privilege of burial to Robert and Henry their sons; and in return Picot (as he is henceforth called) and his wife gave to the abbey "edificium matris Picotcum virgulto quod habebat juxta ecclesiam sancte Marie de Vrou"and confirmed a third of the church of Sai which Osmelinus de Sayo gave at the same time, giving also meadow land in the meadows "de Juvigneio"; the charter is subscribed by Earl Roger, Picot and his wife and two sons. "Vrou" is clearly Urou, the next parish to Sai, and Juvigni the parish immediately south of Sai. An agreement was made on 17 May 1086 in the court of Robert de Belleme between Picot de Saio and Droco de Coimis as to the dower which Droco's brother William had given to Adeloia his wife, who had been remarried to Picot. This is further evidence of Picot's tenure under the house of Montgomery-Belleme, and suggests that the charter to St-Martin de Sees was considerably later than 1060, the date to which it has been assigned.[Origins of Some Anglo-Norman Families]
Source: lorenfamily.com
Picot married ADELOIA. was born about 1035 in Normandie (Normandy), France; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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| 9. | ADELOIA was born about 1035 in Normandie (Normandy), France; and died. Other Events:
- _UID: 7C749D52FAA04BD49A409736FB23D4DB0C46
Notes:
Source: lorenfamily.com
Children:
- 4. Robert De SAYE was born about 1055 in Sai (Saye), Orne, Normandie, France; died in 1098 in Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England; was buried in Abbey Of St-Martin DE Sees.
- Henry De SAYE was born about 1058; and died.
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