Renaud Seigneur DE COURTENAY, Of Sutton

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• FamilySearch ID: 9CXS-J8J
• Alt. Buried: Aft 1194, Abbey, Ford, Devonshire, England; Alt. Buried

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Renaud de Courtenay, b. c 1125, d. Oct - Dec 1190; witness in 1150 at Rouen, Normandy of charter of Henry, Duke of Normandy (later Henry II of England); in 1160 received grant of the Manor of Sutton, Berkshire from the king; from that date in constant attendance on the king, perhaps a royal secretary; in 1171 accompanied the king in his campaign in Ireland; appears holding land in Devonshire for the first time 1175-1176; in the king's train in his travels in England and France; m. (1) an unidentified woman, mother of Son Reginald; m. (2) Maud, daughter of Robert Fitz Edith (illegitimate son of King Henry I of England, by Edith, daughter of Forn), by Maud (d'Avranches) de Courcy, widow of William de Courcy. [Ancestral Roots]

Note: I have (unsourced) Hawise Deincourt as the unidentified woman who was his 1st wife.

Note: Could his holding land in Devon finally in 1175-1176 possibly relate to his late (1172) marriage to Maud Fitz Edith or to the son Reginald's marriage to Hawise de Courcy, Heiress of Okehampton?

Ancestral File Number: 9FPM-T9

Renaud married Lady Hawise DE COURCY about 1154. Hawise (daughter of William DE COURCY and Matilda AVRANCHES, Heiress Of Okehampton) was born in 1135 in Courtenay, Departement du Loiret, Centre, France; died on 31 Jul 1219; was buried after 31 Jul 1219 in Ford Abbey, Devonshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

1. Reginald DE COURTENAY and died.
2. Sir Robert DE COURTENEY, Baron of Oakhampton was born in 1183 in Okehampton Castle, Okehampton, Devon, England; died on 26 Jul 1242 in Iwerne, Dorset, England; was buried in 1242 in Ford Abbey, Devon, England.
3. Henry DE COURTENAY and died.
4. Egelina DE COURTENAY was born in 1155 in Colston, Nottinghamshire, England; and died.

Renaud married in 1st Wife. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Renaud married Maud FITZEDITH, Dame Du Sap after 1172 in 2ND Wife, No Issue. Maud (daughter of Robert FITZROY, 1st Earl of Gloucester and Matilda AVRANCHES, Heiress Of Okehampton) was born about 1163 in Du Sap, Normandy, France; died in 1224. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• FamilySearch ID: 9S8R-DJY
• _UID: 8F2829E2A2B549D8BC48041CB5085C7DF46E

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Sources: RC 144; AF; Kraentzler 1063; A. Roots 107.
RC: Renaud de Courtenay, Sire de Courtenay. Exiled in 1150. Lost hislands in
France in 1161, but was of Sutton, Berkshire, in 1161.
Roots: Renaud de Courtenay, Sire de Courtenay, died 1161. Says RC iswrong
in putting this man in Berkshire and has him mixed up with anotherRenaud. See
Roots 107 and 138, 7th edition. AF: Died 1189/90.

Renaud married Hawise (Or Hedwig) De DU DON JON about 1116. Hawise (daughter of Frederic De DONJON and Mrs-Frederic De DONJON) was born about 1100 in Courtenay, Loriet, France; died after 1155. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• FamilySearch ID: GJNW-7ZQ
• _UID: 5E84484B7BC44E83877F980BF4505CF6C418

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Sources: RC 144; Karentzler 1063, 1073, 1177; AF; Roots 107.
Occ, 1148-1155.
K: Hawise de Donjon, daughter of Frederic de Donjon and an unknownwife.
Roots: A daughter of Frederick (or Guy) du Donjon and Corbeil.
RC: Hedwig (Hawise) du Donjon, occ. 1148-1155, daughter of Frederickdu
Donjon of Yerre, S-O, France. Sire of the Donjon at Corbeil, 1138.
Donjon: A massive chief tower in ancient castles.
Dungeon: (1) Donjon; (2) a close dark prison or vault commonlyunderground.

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• FamilySearch ID: 9WF7-DMT
• Name: Milo DE COURTENAY
• Occupation: ; Seigneur de Courtenay
• _UID: 98423F17F3BA49EB881DF588FE5E09EA82F9

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Sources: RC 144, 232; A. Roots 107; AF: Kraentzler 1063, 1175.
Roots: Milo, Sire of Courtenay. Born about 1075 or before, died 1127.
RC: Miles (Milo) de Courtenay, Sire de Courtenay.

Athon was succeeded by his son Joscelin, who had three sons: Miles, who was Lord of Courtenay after him; Joscelin, who joined the First Crusade and became Count of Edessa; and Geoffrey, who also fought in the Holy land and died there.

In the 12th century, Reginald de Courtenay (d.1190), son of Milo de Courtenay (d.1127), quarrelled with King Louis VII of France and moved to England: His French lands were forfeit, and passed, with his sister Elizabeth, to Louis' brother Peter, who took the name "Peter de Courtenay".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Courtenay

G?tinais (Loiret), Bourgogne, Ile-de-France, Angleterre

http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Courtenay.pdf

Milo married Ermengarde De NEVERS in 1095 in Nevers, Ni?vre, Burgundy, France. Ermengarde (daughter of Renaud II De NEVERS, Count and Ida De FOREZ) was born about 1073 in Nevers, Nievre, France; died in 1102 in Courtenay, Loiret, Centre-Val de Loire, France; was buried in Okehampton, Devon, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• FamilySearch ID: 9WP5-WRF
• Name: Ermengarde DE NEVERS
• _UID: 22856E74CF324713A9CC4EF226BF4C24EE19

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Sources: RC 144, 232; A. Roots, 107; Kraentzler 1063, 1176; AF.
K: Ermengarde de Nevers and Auxerre.
RC: Ermengarde de Nevers, of Nevers, Nievre, France. Born about 1073,died
about 1095. Married Miles (Milo) de Courtney.
Roots: Ermengarde de Nevers, married about 1095 Milo, Sire ofCourtenay.
Born about 1075 or before, died before 1127.

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• _UID: 823448BDD624443F8AA2D9CD873ED4E0835B

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Ancestral File Number: 91SJ-63

Frederic married Mrs-Frederic De DONJON. Mrs-Frederic was born about 1080 in Of Corbeil, S-O, France; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• _UID: 4E8D958A05874D78BFE3FB6399A3E459C4FA

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Ancestral File Number: 8Q7Q-47

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• FamilySearch ID: L8B9-VWR
• TitleOfNobility: ; Seigneur de Courtenay
• Name: Joscelin I
• Name: Josselin of Courtenay

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Jocelyn I de Courtenay (1034-after 1069), son of Athon, Ch?telain de Ch?teaurenard, Seigneur de Courtenay. Very little is known about his life other than his two marriages. He first married Hildegarde de Ch?teau-Landon, daughter of Geoffrey II, Count of G?tinais, and Ermengarde of Anjou (daughter of Fulk III, Count of Anjou). Joscelin and Hildegarde had one daughter: 1. Vaindemonde de Courtenay, married to Renard II, Count of Joigny. Joscelin married secondly Elizabeth of Montlh?ry, daughter of Guy I of Montlh?ry and Hodierna of Gometz. Joscelin and Elizabeth had five children: 1. Hodierne of Courtenay, married to Geoffroy II, Seigneur of Joinville 2. Miles, Seigneur of Courtenay, married Ermengarde of Nevers 3. Joscelin I, Count of Edessa and Prince of Galilee 4. Geoffroy of Courtney (d. 1139) 5. Renaud (d. before 1133), Monk at the monastery of St. John the Evangelist at Sens. After Joscelin's death, Elizabeth became a nun at St. John's. See also House of Courtenay.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joscelin_I,_Lord_of_Courtenay
http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Courtenay.pdf

Joscelin married Elisabeth DE MONTLHERY after 1065. Elisabeth (daughter of Guy TROUSSEL, I Seigneur De Montlh?ry Et De Bray and Hodierne DE GOMETZ-LA-FERTE) was born about 1040 in Montlh?ry, Seine-et-Oise, ?le-de-France, France; died about 1113 in Cumberland, England; was buried in 1113 in Oise, Picardie, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• FamilySearch ID: 9S8J-R9Z
• Name: Isabel Elizabeth DE COURTENAY
• Name: Isabel MONTLH?RY

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Hodierna / Elisabeth married Guy I of Montlh?ry and they had seven children:

Elizabeth (Isabel) of Montlh?ry, married Joscelin, lord of Courtenay, mother of Joscelin I, Count of Edessa

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hodierna_of_Gometz#CITEREFLa_MonteJanuary_1942

G?tinais (Loiret), Bourgogne, Ile-de-France, Angleterre

http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Courtenay.pdf

Seigneurs de Montlh?ry Bray-sur-Seine, La Fert?-Milon

http://racineshistoire.free.fr/LGN/PDF/Montlhery.pdf

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• AFN: 9FPM-HK
• FamilySearch ID: LBLQ-5TN
• _UID: DC616B8CCB3748138D9BCCEC6E0330ADBF98

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Sources: RC 232; A. Roots 107, AF; Kraentzler 1176.
Roots: Renaud II, Count of Nevers and Auxerre.
There are three Renauds, counts of Nevers, in the system but noconnections
between them. Could they run back from this count (b. 1047/1053), to asecond
(not in system) born about 1020/1025, to a third (wife born 1003) andthen a
fourth? The fourth is the son-in-law of Hugh Capet and the third theson-in-law
of Hugh Capet's son.

Renaud married Ida De FOREZ. Ida was born about 1049-1055 in Le Forez, France; died in 1085 in France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• AFN: 9FPM-JQ
• FamilySearch ID: LQ5J-R35
• _UID: 421F80F482E240CFB1B248AD77F11C466A8E

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Sources: A. Roots 107; RC 232, 317; AF; Kraentzler 1176.
RC: Heiress of the countship la Forez. Second wife of Renaud II.
Roots: Ida, daughter of Artald V, Count of Forez.
K: Ida-Raimonde de Forez.