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Carney & Wehofer Family
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 1352 - 1421 (69 years)
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| Name |
John 5Th Baron De WELLES [2, 3] |
| Suffix |
Sir Knight |
| Born |
20 Apr 1352 |
Conisholme, Lincolnshire, England  [4] |
| Gender |
Male |
| _UID |
D42B77AA33394D30948E952193BF8E4203FE |
| Died |
24 Aug 1421 [5] |
| Person ID |
I13087 |
Carney Wehofer 2024 Genealogy |
| Last Modified |
5 Jan 2006 |
| Family 1 |
Eleanor De MOWBRAY, b. Bef 25 Mar 1364, Epworth, Isle Of Axholme, Lincolnshire, England , d. Aft 1399 (Age ~ 35 years) |
| Married |
Bef May 1386 |
1st Wife? [6] |
| Children |
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| Last Modified |
29 Aug 2016 |
| Family ID |
F6623 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
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| Notes |
- BARONY OF WELLES (V)
JOHN (DE WELLE, afterwards WELLES), LORD WELLES, son and heir, was born 20 April 1352 at Conisholme, Lincs, and baptised that day in the church of St. Peter there. He was retained to stay with the Duke of Lancaster for life, 12 February 1371/2, and accompanied the Duke on his historic but fruitless march from Calais to Bordeaux, August-December 1373; was given seisin of his lands, 6 May 1373; and served on many commissions of the peace, of array, &c., in Lincolnshire from 1374. He was summoned to Parliament from 20 January 1375/6 to 26 February 1420/1, by writs diiected Johanni de Welle, or Welles, such summonses being apparently continued no less than 7 years after his death, viz. from 29 September 1422 to 3 August 1429. He was frequently abroad or serving in the French wars, 1377, 1379-83 and 1387-88; was with the garrison of Berwick-on-Tweed, 1378-79; had licence to go to France "pro Declaratione Honoris ac Nominis sui Salvatione," 22 August 1384; and took part in Richard Il's only expedition to Scotland in 1385. In May 1390 he and Sir David Lindsay, afterwards 1st Earl of Crawford [SCT], performed a notable feat of arms on London Bridge, where Welles was unhorsed at the third course. He was present at Lowestoft, October 1398, on the embarkation of his brother-in-law, the Duke of Norfolk, who had been banished by Richard II; was summoned, 18 May 1400, to perform homage and fealty to Henry IV, was appointed, 11 May 1402, to proclaim, in Lincolnshire, the King's intention of enforcing law and order; and ordered, 8 September 1403, to stop granting livery and making unlawful assemblies. He married, (?) 1stly, before May 1386, Eleanor, sister of John (DE MOWBRAY), EARL OF NOTTINGHAM, and of Thomas (DE MOWBRAY), DUKE OF NORFOLK and EARL MARSHAL, 1st daughter of John, 4th LORD MOWBRAY, by Elizabeth, suo jure (according to modern doctrine) BARONESS SEGRAVE, daughter and heir of John (DE SEGRAVE), 4th LORD SEGRAVE. She, who was born shortly before 25 March 1364, may have been living in 1399. He married, (?) 2ndly, before 13 August 1417, Margery. He died 26 August 1421. She died 8 April 1426. [Complete Peerage XII/2:441-3, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
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John de Welles, 5th baron, was summoned to parliament from 20 January, 1376, to 26 February, 1421. This nobleman served in the expedition made into Flanders in the retinue of John, Duke of Lancaster, in the 27th Edward III [1354], and in the 1st Richard II [1377] was in the wars of France. The next year he was in the garrison of Berwick, under Henry Percy, Earl of Northumberland, its governor. His lordship subsequently obtained license to travel beyond sea, and returning in the 8th Richard II [1385], had leave to go abroad again for the vindication of his honour, having received some affront from a knight in France. He seems to have come home solely to procure letters testimonial vouching for his credit and reputation. After this we find him in the Scottish wars, and in the 19th of the same reign, he was ambassador to Scotland, where, during his sojourn, being at a banquet where deeds of arms becoming the subject of conversation, his lordship exclaimed, "Let words have no place; if ye know not the chivalry and valiant deeds of Englishmen, appoint me a day and place when ye list, and ye shall have experience." This challenge was immediately accepted by David, Earl of Crawford, and London Bridge appointed as the place of combat. The battle was fought on St. George's Day, and the Scottish earl was declared victor. Indeed, he displayed such an extraordinary degree of prowess, that notwithstanding the spear was broken upon his helmet and visage, he remained so immovably fixed in his saddle that the spectators cried out that in defiance of the laws of arms, he was bound thereto. Whereupon he dismounted and got up again and ran a second course, but in the third, Lord Welles was unhorsed and flung to the ground, on which Crawford dismounting, embraced him that the people might understand that he had no animosity, and the earl subsequently visited his lordship with great courtesy until his recovery. Of this Lord Welles nothing further in known than the period of his decease, anno 1421; although for eight years afterwards summonses appear to have been regularly issued to his lordship. But there are other instances upon record of summonses having been directed to barons after their deaths, probably from ignorance that the decease occurred. Lord Welles m. Margaret, or Eleanor, dau. of John, Lord Mowbray, and had two daus., Margaret, and Anne. He was s. by (the son of his deceased eldest son, Eudo, by his wife, Maude, dau. of Ralph, Lord Greystock) his grandson, Sir Leo, or Lionel de Welles. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, p. 572, Welles, Barons Welles]
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- [S579] Jim Weber.
- [S25] Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 82-9, 24-8 (Reliability: 3).
- [S63] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, XII/2:441-443 (Reliability: 3).
- [S63] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, XII/2:441 (Reliability: 3).
- [S63] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, XII/2:443 (Reliability: 3).
- [S63] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, XII/2:442-443 (Reliability: 3).
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