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Carney & Wehofer Family
Genealogy Pages
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1457 - 1525 (68 years)
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Name |
Thomas 5Th Baron WEST [2, 3, 4, 5, 6] |
Suffix |
8th Baron De La Warre, Kg |
Born |
1457 |
Offington, Broadwater, Sussex, England [2, 4, 5] |
Gender |
Male |
_UID |
A6277F30D1F84D4D949D68DF39B9FB0145F2 |
Died |
11 Oct 1525 |
Offington, Broadwater, Sussex, England [2, 4, 5] |
Buried |
Broadwater, Sussex, England |
Person ID |
I13297 |
Carney Wehofer 2024 Genealogy |
Last Modified |
5 Feb 2012 |
Father |
Richard 4Th Baron WEST, 7th Baron De La Warre, b. 28 Oct 1430, Oakhanger, Selborne, Hampshire, England , d. 10 Mar 1475-1476, Offington, Broadwater, Sussex, England (Age 45 years) |
Mother |
Katherine HUNGERFORD, b. Abt 1438, Farleigh-Hungerford, Somerset, England , d. 12 May 1493 (Age ~ 55 years) |
Married |
Bef 10 Jun 1451 |
1st Husband [7, 8, 9] |
Family ID |
F6779 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Family 1 |
Eleanor PERCY, b. Abt 1460, Alnwick Castle, Alnwick, Northumberland, England , d. Bef 1480, Offington, Sussex, England (Dsp) (Age ~ 19 years) |
Married |
1st Wife [6] |
Last Modified |
29 Aug 2016 |
Family ID |
F5765 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Family 2 |
Elizabeth MORTIMER, b. Abt 1457, Mortimer's Hall, Stratfield Mortimer, Berkshire, England , d. 29 Jun 1502 (Age ~ 45 years) |
Married |
Abt 1480 |
2ND Wife [3, 4, 5, 10] |
Last Modified |
29 Aug 2016 |
Family ID |
F6769 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Family 3 |
Eleanor COPLEY, b. Abt 1476, Leigh Place, Gatton, Surrey, England , d. Bef 14 Nov 1536 (Age ~ 60 years) |
Married |
Aft 1502 |
3rd Wife [4, 5, 10] |
Children |
| 1. Barbara WEST, b. Abt 1507, Offington, Broadwater, Sussex, England , d. Yes, date unknown |
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Last Modified |
29 Aug 2016 |
Family ID |
F6770 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
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Notes |
- Thomas West, 5th Lord (Baron) West and 8th Lord (Baron) la Warre, KG (1510); knighted 18 Jan 1477/8; granted by Henry VII 5 March 1485/6 the estates in Sussex of the attainted Duke of Norfolk (who was killed at the Battle of Bosworth Field 1485); helped quell the Cornish uprising 1497 in support of Perken Warbeck; Knight Banneret 18 Aug 1513; m. 1st Elizabeth, daughter of Hugh Mortimer, of Mortimer's Hall, Hants, and sister and heir of Sir John Mortimer, and d. 11 Oct 1525. The 8th Lord (Baron) La Warre m. 2nd Eleanor (d. between 10 May and 14 Nov 1536), daughter of Sir Roger Copley, of Roughway, Sussex, and d. 11 Oct 1525, having had further issue. [Burke's Peerage, p. 793]
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Sir Thomas West, KG, 3rd Lord de la Warre, b. 1457, d. 11 Oct 1525; m. (1) Elizabeth, heiress of her brother John Mortimer, & daughter of Hugh Mortimer of Mortimer's Hall, co. Hants, by Eleanor, daughter of John Cornwall; m. (2) Eleanor, d. 1536, daughter of Sir Roger Copley of Roughway, Sussex, by Anne, b. c 1447, daughter & coheir of Sir Thomas Hoo, Lord Hoo, d. 1455, by his (2) wife Eleanor, daughter and heir of Sir Lionel de Welles, Lord Welles, knighted 18 Jan 1477/8, MP 1482-1523, KG 11 May 1510. [Ancestral Roots]
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BARONY OF WEST (V) 1476
BARONY OF LA WARRE (VIII) 1476
THOMAS (WEST), LORD LA WARRE, and LORD WEST son and heir aged 19 and more at his father's death. He obtained special livery of his lands, 1 September 1476, having served, 2 years previously, in the expedition to France. Knighted by the King, 18 January 1477/8. He was summoned to Parliament from 15 November 1482 to 15 April 1523. Espousing the cause of Henry VII he obtained from that King, 5 March 1485/6, large grants from the estates in Sussex of the attainted Duke of Norfolk, including the honour of Bramber, the forest of St. Leonards, the towns of Horsham, Shoreham, &c. He was in 1491 one of the commanders in Flanders; aided in suppressing the Cornish rebels in 1497; in 1513 was at the sieges of Therouenne and Tournay, being made a Knight Banneret at the defeat of the French at Guinegate, known as the Battle of the Spurs, 18 August 1513. Present at the Field of the Cloth of Gold. Nominated K.G. 23 April, and installed 11 May 1510. Attended the King's sister in 1514 at her marriage with Louis XII of France.
He married, 1stly, Elizabeth, sister and heir of Sir John MORTIMER, and daughter of Hugh MORTIMER, of Mortimer's Hall, Hants, by Eleanor, daughter of John CORNWALL. He married, 2ndly, Eleanor, 3rd daughter of Sir Roger COPLEY, of Roughway, Sussex, by Anne, 2nd daughter and coheir of Thomas (Hoo), BARON HOO AND HASTINGS. He died 11 October 1525, and was buried at Broadwater, aged about 68. Will dated 8 October 1524 proved in the Catholic Church of St. Paul, London, 12 February 1525/6. The will of his widow, who was born circa 1476, was dated 10 May 1536 and proved in London 14 November 1536. [Complete Peerage IV:155-6, XIV:243, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
Note: The CP Corrections website provides a little more information and indicates that Thomas had a previously unknown 1st wife, Eleanor (d. bef. 1480), daughter of Henry Percy (d. 1461). She may have died very early, without having resided with Thomas (arranged marriages were often contracted at an early age), since she wasn't mentioned in Thomas' will, as his deceased 2nd wife & surviving 3rd wife were. The only record of Eleanor Percy is a pedigree of the Percy family compiled in the 1480s which showed a daughter of Henry married to a Lord de la Warr.
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Sources |
- [S579] Jim Weber.
- [S845] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999, 18-35 (Reliability: 3).
- [S289] Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles M o s l e y Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 26 May 2003., 793 (Reliability: 3).
- [S25] Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 4-12 (Reliability: 3).
- [S63] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, IV:155-6 (Reliability: 3).
- [S222] Some Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage, www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/index.shtml, IV, De la Warre (Reliability: 3).
- [S845] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999, 18-34 (Reliability: 3).
- [S25] Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 4-11 (Reliability: 3).
- [S63] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, IV:154-5 (Reliability: 3).
- [S222] Some Corrections and Additions to the Complete Peerage, www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/index.shtml, IV, De la Warr (Reliability: 3).
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