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Carney & Wehofer Family
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 1326 - 1370 (43 years)
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| Name |
Roger 3Rd Baron De LA WARRE [2, 3, 4, 5] |
| Suffix |
Sir |
| Born |
30 Nov 1326 |
Axminster, Devonshire, England  [2, 5, 6] |
| Gender |
Male |
| _UID |
85B269B51E184295B0CDA8149693C4DF67D5 |
| Died |
27 Aug 1370 |
Gascony, France [2, 5, 6] |
| Person ID |
I13320 |
Carney Wehofer 2024 Genealogy |
| Last Modified |
16 Feb 2004 |
| Family 3 |
Eleanor (Alianore) De MOWBRAY, b. Abt 1345, Epworth, Isle Of Axholme, Lincolnshire, England , d. Bef 18 Jun 1387 (Age ~ 42 years) |
| Married |
Bef 23 Jul 1358 |
1st Husband 3Rd Wife [2, 3, 4, 5] |
| Children |
| | 1. Joan De LA WARRE, b. Abt 1367, Offington, Broadwater, Sussex, England , d. 24 Apr 1404, Oakhanger, Selborne, Hampshire, England (Age ~ 37 years) |
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| Last Modified |
29 Aug 2016 |
| Family ID |
F6790 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
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| Notes |
- Roger la Warre, 3rd Lord (Baron) la Warre; in the retinue of The Black Prince at Battle of Crecy and Siege of Calais 1346-7; served Gascony Sep 1355 and again 1364, 1366, 1368/9, and 1370, present Battle of Poitiers 1356, served Picardy and Caux July-Nov 1369 under John of Gaunt, Duke of Lancaster; married 1st Elizabeth de Welle, 2nd daughter of 3rd Lord (Baron) Welle of the 1299 creation, having by her John, 4th Lord, who dsp 27 Aug 1370 and Thomas, 5th Lord, who dsp unm 7 May 1427, when the Barony of La Warre passed to his half sister (Joan)'s son Reynold/Reginald West. [Burke's Peerage]
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Roger de la Warre, b. 30 Nov 1326, d. Gascony, 27 Aug 1370, Lord de la Warre; m. (3) bef. 23 July 1358, Alianore Mowbray. [Magna Charta Sureties]
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BARONY OF LA WARRE (III)
ROGER (LA WARRE), LORD LA WARRE, grandson and heir, being son and heir of John LA WARRE, by Margaret (who died 20 or 22 August 1349), daughter of Sir Robert DE HOLAND, of West Derby, co. Lancaster, Yoxall, co. Stafford, &c. [LORD HOLAND], which John was son and heir apparent of the last Lord, but died v.p., shortly before 24 June 1331. He was born 30 November 1326. He was in the retinue of the Prince at the battle of Crecy and, at the siege of Calais. On 7 November 1349 the King took his homage, and he had livery of divers manors which his mother had held for life: he was then a knight. On 22 April 1353 the King took his homage and fealty, and he had livery of the manor of Wakerley and obtained also the manor of Swineshead, both of which his grandmother, Joan, had held for life. He accompanied the Prince of Wales to Gascony in September 1355, and was in the skirmish at Romorantin in Sologne, and at the battle of Poitiers (c). He was with the King in the invasion of France, October 1359 to 1360, and was taken prisoner in the latter year by Sir Jean Haubert. He was summoned to Parliament 14 August 1362 and 1 June 1363, by writs directed Rogero de la Warre or de Warre. He was in Gascony with the Prince of Wales in 1364, 1366, 1368, and 1368/9, and was one of the commissioners appointed by the King of Castile, 23 September 1366, to put the Prince of Wales in possession of the domain of Biscay. He served under the Duke of Lancaster in his raid into Picardy and Caux, July to November 1369, and was again with the Prince of Wales in Gascony in 1370. He married, 1stly, before 14 October 1338, Elizabeth, 2nd daughter of Sir Adam DE WELLE, of Well, co. Lincoln [LORD WELLE], by Margaret, his wife. She was living 24 February 1344/5. He married 2ndly, before 3 February 1353/4, Elizabeth. He married, 3rdly, before 23 July 1358, Allianore, daughter of Sir John DE MOUBRAY, Lord of Axholme, Bramber, and Gower [LORD MOUBRAY], by his 1st wife, Joan, daughter of Henry, EARL OF LANCASTER and LEICESTER. He died 27 August 1370, in Gascony, aged 43. His widow's dower was ordered to be assigned, 26 November 1370. She married 2ndly, before 12 February 1372/3, Sir Lewis DE CLIFFORD. She died before 18 June 1387. He died in 1404. [Complete Peerage IV:144-7, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
(c) The King of France surrendered himself at Poitiers to Denis de Morbek, a knight of Artois, according to Froissart, who give a minute account. Denis was appealed against by Bernard de Troie, a squire of Gascony, in respect of the taking of the King of France at the battle of Poitiers. In 1360-61 Bernard and Denis were both frequently receiving money from Edward III, but the payments to the former only are described as "pro capcione Johannis Regis Francie". By his deed, dated 1 July 1361, "Bernardus deu Troy scutifer de Vasconia...in periculo anime mee" declared "quod die belli de Poitiers Ego cepi Regem Francie et se mihi reddidit Rex predictus et meus verus prisionarius est et nullus alius jus habet in eo preter me de jure vel racione." Witnesses: the lords Oivier de Clisson, William de Montagu, Bartholomew de Burghersh, Robert de Holand, Thomas de Ros, Bernard de Brocas, etc. There is a story that Roger la Warre and John Pelham were in the crowd which surrounded the King, the former getting the King's sword, and the latter his belt: and that Roger therefore took the crampet or chape of a sword, and John a buckle, as their badges. Froissart does not mention either of them.
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- [S579] Jim Weber.
- [S845] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999, 18-31 (Reliability: 3).
- [S25] Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 4-8, 56-7 (Reliability: 3).
- [S289] Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles M o s l e y Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 26 May 2003., 793 (Reliability: 3).
- [S63] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, IV:144-147 (Reliability: 3).
- [S25] Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 56-7 (Reliability: 3).
- [S845] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999, 47b-31 (Reliability: 3).
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