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Carney & Wehofer Family
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Abt 1368 - Aft 1402 (~ 34 years)
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Name |
Joan (Jane) De MOWBRAY [2, 3, 4] |
Born |
Abt 1368 |
Epworth, Isle Of Axholme, Lincolnshire, England [5] |
Gender |
Female |
FamilySearch ID |
L6T8-ZKL |
_UID |
C26DEEED26294403BF640BAB60F5C773088B |
Died |
Aft 30 Nov 1402 |
Person ID |
I13430 |
Carney Wehofer 2024 Genealogy |
Last Modified |
11 Dec 2022 |
Father |
John de MOWBRAY, b. 25 Jun 1340, Epworth, Isle Of Axholme, Lincolnshire, England , d. 17 Jun 1368, Thrace, Byzantium, Turkey (Age 27 years) |
Mother |
Elizabeth De SEGRAVE, b. 25 Oct 1338, Croxton, Leicestershire, England , d. Bef 1368, Leicestershire, England (Age 29 years) |
Married |
Abt 1349 [6] |
Family ID |
F6536 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Family 1 |
Thomas GREY, Of Heton & Wark, Sir, b. Abt 1359, Heaton Castle, Wark-On-Tweed, Northumberland, England , d. Abt 30 Nov 1400 (Age ~ 41 years) |
Married |
1st Husband [5] |
Children |
| 1. John GREY, Of Wark-On-Tweed, Kg, Sir, b. Aft 1384, Heaton Castle, Wark-On-Tweed, Northumberland, England , d. 22 Mar 1420-1421, Battle Of Bauge, Anjou, France (Killed) (Age ~ 36 years) |
| 2. Maud GREY, b. Abt 1386, Heaton Castle, Wark-On-Tweed, Northumberland, England , d. Aft 22 Aug 1451 (Age ~ 65 years) |
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Last Modified |
29 Aug 2016 |
Family ID |
F6862 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Family 2 |
Thomas TUNSTALL, Of Thurland, Sir, b. Abt 1358, Thurland Manor, Tunstall, Lancashire, England , d. 5 Nov 1415, Thurland Castle, Tunstall, Lancashire, England (Age ~ 57 years) |
Married |
Bef 30 Nov 1402 |
2ND Husband, 2ND Wife [5] |
Last Modified |
29 Aug 2016 |
Family ID |
F6671 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
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Notes |
- Jane de Mowbray; m. Sir Thomas Gray of Wark. [Ancestral Roots]
Joan de Mowbray; m. Sir Thomas Grey of Heaton, d. c 30 Nov 1400. [Magna Charta Sureties]
Note: Sometimes it is hard to recognize that these two sources are talking about the same people.
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Following copied from Dave Utzinger, World Connect db=utzing, rootsweb.com,
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Said to be daughter of John de Mowbray and Elizabeth de Segrave. 4 sons & 1 daughter
There are at least two sources which identity Thomas Gray's wife, Joan, as the daughter of John de Mowbray. The first source is the Visitation of the North taken c. 1480-1500 in which Joan is called "Ionetta filia Johannes Moubray." [Reference: Surtees Soc., 144 (1930): 53-54]. The visitation is one of the earliest visitations on record and one of the best in my opinion.
The second source is the monumental inscription of Joan (Mowbray) Gray's son, Henry Gray, which reads as follows:
"Here lyeth Syr Henry Grey, the sonne of Syre Thomas Grey, and Jone, hys wyf, that was systere to the Duke of Norfolk, that dyed at Venis." [Reference: Scott, Memorials of the Family of Scott (1876), p. 126
footnote p].
The Duke of Norfolk who died in Venice was Thomas Mowbray, Duke of Norfolk, who died there of pestilence in 1399. He was the son of John de Mowbray, 4th Lord Mowbray, and his wife, Elizabeth de Segrave.
I trust that answers your question.
Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah
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Sources |
- [S579] Jim Weber.
- [S25] Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 65-7 (Reliability: 3).
- [S845] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999, 223-34 (Reliability: 3).
- [S63] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, VI:136 (Reliability: 3).
- [S44] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, Brad Verity, 30 Jan 2002 (Reliability: 3).
- [S25] Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 63-6 (Reliability: 3).
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