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Carney & Wehofer Family
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 1565 - 1623 (58 years)
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| Name |
Gilbert HOLCOMBE |
| Born |
1565 |
Hole (Hull), Devonshire, England  |
| Gender |
Male |
| FamilySearch ID |
LRZ5-FD3 |
| Will |
14 Oct 1623 [1] |
| Proved 18 Aug 1624 by sole legatee & exec. brother in law Wm Bonython |
| _UID |
0008D10E7B524AF5B5D3A30CD731ABA27FC9 |
| Died |
14 Oct 1623 |
Mylor Churchtown, Cornwall, England [2] |
| Person ID |
I17936 |
Carney Wehofer 2024 Genealogy |
| Last Modified |
2 Jan 2023 |
| Father |
Thomas H. HOLCOMBE, b. 1526, Hull, Devonshire, England , d. Abt 1579, Ashton, Cornwall, England (Age 53 years) |
| Mother |
Margaret TRETHURFFE (TRETHFORD), b. 1505, Landrake, Cornwall, England , d. 28 Jun 1576 (Age 71 years) |
| Married |
20 Jun 1559 |
Ashton, Cornwall, England |
| Family ID |
F9028 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
| Family |
Anne COURTENAY, b. 1573, Ladock, Cornwall, England , d. Bef 1642, France (Age 68 years) |
| Married |
1600 |
Votten, Cornwall, England |
| Children |
| | 1. Alfred HOLCOMBE, b. 1605, Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales , d. Yes, date unknown |
| | 2. William HOLCOMBE, b. Abt 1615, d. 1700 (Age ~ 85 years) |
| | 3. Roger HOLCOMBE, b. Abt 1617, d. 1648 (Age ~ 31 years) |
| | 4. Gilbert HOLCOMBE, b. 1619, Hole (Hull), Devonshire, England , d. 1619 (Age 0 years) |
| | 5. Nicholas HOLCOMBE, b. Abt 1621, d. Yes, date unknown |
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| Last Modified |
29 Aug 2016 |
| Family ID |
F8820 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
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| Notes |
- Thomas Holcombe is NOT the son of Gilbert Holcombe and Anne Courtenay
George McCraken writing in The American Genealogist, Vol. 26:109 found that Gilbert Holcomb's oral (noncupative) of 14 October 1623, will stated "d.s.p.", (which means died without issue), and that Gilbert left his estate to his brother-in-law, Richard Bonithon. SEE SOURCE.
SEE IN MEMORIES: Appears Gilbert and Anne Courtenay had no children.
HOLCOMBE OF HULL
The visitations of the county of Devon : comprising the herald's visitations of 1531, 1564, & 1620, Part 2 (H-Z) Page 474.
https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/126381/?offset=0#page=39&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=
"J. L. Vivian's edition of the Visitations of Devon (Exeter, 1887), p. 474, states categorically that Gilbert Holcombe died at Milor, Cornwall, leaving a nuncupative will 14 Oct. 1623 in which he bequeathed his estate to his brother-in-law, Richard Bonithon. However, Richard Bonithon himself died before execution of the will and his next of kin was nephew John Bonithon (Bonython). The statement contains the abbreviation "d.s.p." which surely stands for "decessit sine prole" and means "died without issue." Since the immigrant Thomas Holcombe must be presumed to have been then living in England, he cannot have been a son of Gilbert Holcombe."
Thomas' history is derived mostly from land and probate records
At the time of Thomas' birth, the Renaissance was ending as was the reign of Queen Elizabeth I. Perhaps one of the major events of his childhood was the publishing of the King James Bible, which may have affected his life more than any other event of the early 17th century. The Mayflower landed in Plymouth in 1620 and Thomas certainly would have heard of it and perhaps been excited by the possibilities for a young man. The Colony of Massachusetts was founded in 1628 and the Colony of Connecticut was founded in 1633. The stage was set for the second wave of English colonists of which Thomas was a part.
Unknown Ancestry
The early published genealogies, Seaver on his page 8, and McPherson on her page 9, listed his parents as Gilbert Holcombe and Ann Courtenay. Neither of these writers cites specific references for this statement and there is evidence to prove the contrary. Both of these authors apparently used the Hiram Frank Holcomb Genealogical Research Collection at the Connecticut Historical Society, call number GEN029. This ancestry, unfortunately, has been perpetuated across the internet.
Shortly after the publication of McPherson's work, George McCracken wrote (TAG 26:109): Our two genealogies of the Holcombe family, those of Jesse Seaver, The Holcomb(e) Genealogy (Philadelphia, 1925) and of Hannah Elizabeth Weir (Mrs. Lewin D.) McPherson, The Holcombes, Nation Builders (Washington, 1947) both leave us with the impression that it is all but proved that the parents of Thomas Holcombe of Dorchester, Mass., and Windsor, Conn., were Gilbert Holcombe of Hull, Devon, and of his wife, Ann Courtenay, daughter of Peter Courtenay of Vrotonin, Cornwall.
Neither of these writers cites specific references for this statement and there is evidence to prove the contrary. J. L. Vivian's edition of the Visitations of Devon (Exeter, 1887), p. 474 [IN MEMORIES], states categorically that Gilbert Holcombe died at Milor, Cornwall, leaving a nun-cupative will dated 14 Oct. 1623 in which he bequeathed his estate to his brother-in-law, Richard Bonithon. The statement contains the abbreviation "d.s.p." which surely stands for "decessit sine prole" and means "died without issue." Since the immigrant Thomas Holcombe must be presumed to have been then living in England, he cannot have been a son of Gilbert Holcombe.
McCracken then goes on to dispute other conclusions made by McPherson about Thomas' heritage.
Several early authors state he was a member of Reverend Ephraim Huit's church, and Huit was from Kenilworth in Warwickshire. But, no Holcomb births or records were found from the Diocesan Court at Worchester. The Register of Wroxal, 300 @24, for the year 1634 did list the following; Sarah Huit daughter of Ephraim and Isabell his wife was baptized, and Nathaniel Griswold the son of Samuel Griswold and Anne his wife was baptized. Bowman has found clues recently that Thomas may have been from county Somerset, the city of Bridgewater. She has recently discovered that one of the early Holcomb births in Connecticut was recorded as James the eighth. This could be a clue to ancestry of Thomas Holcomb in that the birth occurred in the third generation of American Holcomb's, i.e. not time to have had eight generations.
Bowman lists the ancestry of Gilbert and Ann Courtney Holcomb in her Volume 2 without resolving the question of Thomas' parentage in order that future researchers not duplicate others' efforts in delineating this line.
Most recently (October 25, 1998), Bowman updated her Volume 2 with the comment that Christopher was the most likely ancestor of Thomas. The birth and death dates normally assigned to the son of Christopher are not correct nor the marriage to Joan Prideaux. The birth and death dates are those of Thomas, the actor, of London who married Francis Bartlett.
In 2018, for the first time since McCracken, David Williams, a published British researcher, investigated the possibilities of a lineal descent for the Southern Holcomb(e) lines from the Holcombes of Hole in Devon and/or their cadet branch of Brownslate in Pembrokeshire. In the "Magazine of Virginia Genealogy", Vol. 56, No. 4, page 278, he repeats previous disclaimers about Gilbert: "Gilbert sold the estate and mansion of Hole in 1605 to the Bartlett family . . . " and "died without issue in 1623 leaving his estate to his brother-in-law, Richard Bonython." He cites the will of Gilbert and parish registers.
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Gilbert was eldest son of Thomas Holcombe and Margaret Trethurffe. He Married Ann Courtenay of Votton, Cornwall in about 1594. In about 1600, he sold the Holcombe estate at Hole, Devon, England to Mr Mallock & Ellis Bartlett. The estate was subsequently renamed Down Ralph.
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- [S1160] FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 14 Dec 2022), entry for Gilbert HOLCOMBE, person ID LRZ5-FD3. (Reliability: 3).
- [S1160] FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 2 Jan 2023), entry for Gilbert HOLCOMBE, person ID LRZ5-FD3. (Reliability: 3).
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