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Alice Le BOTELER[1]

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Name Alice Le BOTELER [2, 3, 4] Birth Abt 1383 Bewsey Hall, Warrington, Lancashire, England Gender Female FamilySearch ID L55B-N8C _UID 91727BC3B4124F2B928F69020D2DF31650DE Death Bef 27 Feb 1441 Kingsley, Runcon, Cheshire, England [2, 3]
Person ID I25163 Carney Wehofer 2024 Genealogy Last Modified 14 Dec 2022
Father Sir John Le BOTELER, Of Bewsey, Mp, b. Abt 1335, Bewsey Hall, Warrington, Lancashire, England d. 1400, Cropwell Butler, Bingham, Nottingshire, England
(Age ~ 65 years)
Mother Alice De PLUMPTON, b. Aft 1338, Plumpton, Spofforth, West Riding Yorkshire, England d. 21 Mar 1400, Bewsey, Lancashire, England,
(Age ~ 61 years)
Marriage 1374 2ND Husband [5, 6]
Family ID F11416 Group Sheet | Family Chart
Family Sir John GERARD, Of Kingsley & Bryn, b. 1386, Brynhill Of Brindle, Chorley, Lancashire, England d. 6 Nov 1431 (Age 45 years)
Marriage Bef 5 Apr 1402 Lancashire, England [4]
Children 1. Elizabeth GERARD d. Yes, date unknown 2. Ellen GERARD d. Yes, date unknown 3. Constance GERARD, b. 1402, Bryd & Kingsley, Lancashire, England d. 1468, Standish, Lancashire, England
(Age 66 years)
4. Peter GERARD, Of Kingsley & Bryn, Sir, b. 1407, Brynhill Of Brindle, Chorley, Lancashire, England d. 26 Mar 1447, Kingsley, Runcon, Cheshire, England
(Age 40 years)
Family ID F6555 Group Sheet | Family Chart Last Modified 14 Dec 2022
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Notes - Some have Alice also married to Thomas Leigh, with a son Thomas, b. 1415. There is no way, except for divorce or extra-marrital affair, that Alice could be married and had the children by both husbands. I have three published sources on Alice's marriage to John Gerard and none of them mention a second marriage for Alice, nor a divorce which would have allowed her to marry another before her husband died.
One source (Denise Plath-Slattery, World Connect), has the Alice who m. Thomas Leigh as a daughter of Thomas Boteler (and Alice Beauchamp). The dates support that pedigree.
From https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Boteler-8
Biography
Alice Boteler was born circa 1385 at Bewsey, Lancashire, England, the daughter of John le Boteler and Alicia Plumpton.[1][2][3][4]
Marriage & Children
A contract for the marriage of Alice Boteler and John Gerard, Esq., Justice of the Peace for the county palatine was signed in 1402. They had 1 son and 1 daughter:[1][2][3][4]
Sir Peter
Constance, wife of Sir Alexander Standish
Death
Alice Boteler died on 27 February 1442.[4]
Sources
? 1.0 1.1 Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 265-266.
? 2.0 2.1 Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. II, p. 248-249.
? 3.0 3.1 Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 443-444.
? 4.0 4.1 4.2 Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 82.
- Some have Alice also married to Thomas Leigh, with a son Thomas, b. 1415. There is no way, except for divorce or extra-marrital affair, that Alice could be married and had the children by both husbands. I have three published sources on Alice's marriage to John Gerard and none of them mention a second marriage for Alice, nor a divorce which would have allowed her to marry another before her husband died.
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Sources - [S579] Jim Weber.
- [S289] Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles M o s l e y Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 1131, 26 May 2003. (Reliability: 3).
- [S25] Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 116-7 (Reliability: 3).
- [S845] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999, 233b-35 (Reliability: 3).
- [S845] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999, 170-30 (Reliability: 3).
- [S25] Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 116-6 (Reliability: 3).
- [S579] Jim Weber.