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Dorothea Elisabeth FRASSIN, Frossin Frass

Dorothea Elisabeth FRASSIN, Frossin Frass

Female 1774 - Yes, date unknown


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  • Name Dorothea Elisabeth FRASSIN 
    Suffix Frossin Frass 
    Birth 1774  Lobsens, Wirsitz, Posen, Prussia, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Female 
    FamilySearch ID K41D-XL5 
    Name Dorothea Elisabeth Frass  [1
    Name Dorothea Frass  [1
    Name Dorothea Frassin  [2
    _UID E2FDC3F2E7AA46BA89489D04A93691B8BF71 
    Death Yes, date unknown 
    Person ID I31016  Carney Wehofer 2024 Genealogy
    Last Modified 23 Dec 2024 

    Father Jakob "Jacob" FRASS, Frase Frassin,   b. Mar 1747, Saxaren, Wirsitz, Posen, Prussia, Germany Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 14 Apr 1815, Saxaren, Wirsitz, Posen, Prussia, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 68 years) 
    Mother Maria Islabein "Elisabeth" KRAMM,   b. 12 Jul 1755, Steinhagen, Westfalen, Prussia Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 14 Aug 1810, Saxaren, Wirsitz, Posen, Prussia, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 55 years) 
    Marriage Abt 1772  Saxaren, Wirsitz, Posen, Prussia, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F536734238  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Michael BETHKE,   b. Abt 1760, Lobsens, Kr. Wirsitz, Posen, Prussia Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 2 Mar 1830, Sadki, Wyrzysk, Bydgoszcz, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location (Age ~ 70 years) 
    Marriage 28 Nov 1792  Lobsens, Kr. Wirsitz, Posen, Prussia Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Anna BETHKE,   b. 9 Jun 1794, Lobsens, Kr. Wirsitz, Posen, Prussia Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 15 Jun 1794, Lobsens, Kr. Wirsitz, Posen, Prussia Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 0 years)
     2. Michael BETHKE, Betke,   b. 2 Apr 1796, Dreidorf, Wirsitz, Posen, Prussia Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 12 Nov 1846, Smilowo, Sepólno Krajenskie, Kuyavia-Pomerania, Poland Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 50 years)
     3. George BETHKE,   b. 1 Feb 1803, Lobsens, Kr. Wirsitz, Posen, Prussia Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 21 Feb 1803, Danzig-West Prussia Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 0 years)
     4. Christian BETHKE,   b. 6 Feb 1804, Dreidorf, Posen, Prussia Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 22 Jul 1819 (Age 15 years)
     5. Catherina BETHKE,   b. 21 Sep 1806, Lobsens, Kr. Wirsitz, Posen, Prussia Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 28 Sep 1806, Lobsens, Kr. Wirsitz, Posen, Prussia Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 0 years)
    Family ID F1516  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
    Last Modified 23 Dec 2024 

  • Notes 
    • Biography

      Dorothea was born in 1774. Her parents were Jakob Frass (Frasse) and Maria Elisabeth Kramm. Colloquially, especially in the southern German-speaking world, the family names of women are sometimes extended by appending the ending -in, for example Frassin. This suffix was born until the 18th. century registered in official documents such as the church records, Müller zu Müllerin. The ending -in is still to be heard in the Bavarian and Prussian records and is often a source of confusion and lost genealogical research continuity.

      Dorothea (age 18) married Michael Bethke on 28 November 1792 in Wirsitz, Posen, Poland[1]

      Together they had 5 children and a few are noted below with sources:

      Anna born 1794 (died same year) Dorothea's daughter Anna Bethke was baptised on 15 June 1794 in Wirsitz, Posen, Deutschland (Germany).[2]
      Michael born 1796 (lived to 1846 age 50)
      George born 1803 (died same year) Dorothea's son George Betcke was baptised on 4 February 1803 in Wirsitz, Posen, Deutschland (Germany).[3]
      Christian born 1804 (died at 15 yrs old) Dorothea's child Christian Betke died on 23 July 1819 in Wirsitz, Posen, Deutschland (Germany).[4]
      Catherina born 1806 (died same year)

      Many of the children birth, death records confirm parent identity.
      Sources

      ? Marriage: "Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1567-1945"
      Custodian: Staatliche Archivverwaltung Der Deutschen Demokratischen Republik; Film Number: 245512; FHL Film Number: 245512
      Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 61250 #903134014 (accessed 23 December 2024)
      Dorothea Frassin (18) marriage to Michael Bethke on 28 Nov 1792 in Wirsitz, Posen, Poland).
      ? Baptism of daughter Anna Bethke: "Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1567-1945"
      Custodian: Staatliche Archivverwaltung Der Deutschen Demokratischen Republik; Film Number: 245513; FHL Film Number: 245513
      Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 61250 #301699463 (accessed 23 December 2024)
      Dorothea Elisabeth Bethke's daughter Anna Bethke baptism on 15 Jun 1794 in Wirsitz, Posen, Deutschland (Germany).
      ? Baptism of son George Betcke: "Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1567-1945"
      Custodian: Staatliche Archivverwaltung Der Deutschen Demokratischen Republik; Film Number: 245513; FHL Film Number: 245513
      Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 61250 #301700878 (accessed 23 December 2024)
      Dorothea Betckin's son George Betcke baptism on 4 Feb 1803 in Wirsitz, Posen, Deutschland (Germany).
      ? Death of child Christian Betke: "Germany, Lutheran Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1567-1945"
      Custodian: Staatliche Archivverwaltung Der Deutschen Demokratischen Republik; Film Number: 245513; Page Number: 17;18; Page number: 17;18; FHL Film Number: 245513
      Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 61250 #751701637 (accessed 23 December 2024)
      Dorothea Betke in death record for child Christian Betke 23 Jul 1819, wife of Michael Betke, in Wirsitz, Posen, Deutschland (Germany).

      From records held by Lois Carney - please contact for reference source if not shown here. (This is a collaborative effort; you may remove this if adding other sources)

  • Sources 
    1. [S1160] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 25 Apr 2024), entry for Dorothea Elisabeth FRASSIN, person ID K41D-XL5. (Reliability: 3).

    2. [S1160] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 23 Dec 2024), entry for Dorothea Elisabeth FRASSIN, person ID K41D-XL5. (Reliability: 3).