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Baron John DE MASSEY

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Name John DE MASSEY [1] Prefix Baron Birth 1344 Tatton, Bucklow, Cheshire, England [1]
Gender Male FamilySearch ID LCT5-W7W Politics 1389 of Cheshire [2]
Appointed Sheriff Politics 1399 Chester, Cheshire [2]
Imprisoned for supporting king Richard II Death 22 Jul 1403 Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England [1]
Burial 22 Jul 1403 Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England [1]
Land grant 16 Aug 1403 Tatton, Cheshire, England [2]
TitleOfNobility [2] Lord of Puddington Name John MASSEY [2] Name John MASSEY [2] Name Mascy [2] Person ID I594766401 Carney Wehofer 2024 Genealogy Last Modified 30 Dec 2022
Father Hugh DE MASSEY, b. 1322, Tatton, Cheshire, England d. 1371, England, UK
(Age 49 years)
Mother Alice WRENBURY, b. 1320, Oulton Lowe, Northwich, Cheshire, England d. 1370, Tatton, Cheshire, England
(Age 50 years)
Marriage 1356 Tatton, Rosthern, Cheshire, England, Present UK [3]
Family ID F536728708 Group Sheet | Family Chart
Family Alice WORSLEY, b. Abt 1349, Shipton-under-wychwood, Oxfordshire, England d. 6 Oct 1427, Knutsford, Cheshire, England
(Age ~ 78 years)
Children 1. Jane MASSY, b. Abt 1364, Tatton, Cheshire, England d. Yes, date unknown
2. Geoffery MASSEY, b. Abt 1369, Tatton, Cheshire, England d. 23 Oct 1457, Tatton, Cheshire, England
(Age ~ 88 years)
3. Thomas MASSEY, b. Abt 1371, Tatton, Cheshire, England d. 24 Aug 1420, Tatton, Cheshire, England
(Age ~ 49 years)
4. Alice MASSEY, b. 1373, Tatton, Cheshire, England d. 2 Jan 1401, Woodford, Cheshire, England
(Age 28 years)
5. Dulcie MASSEY, b. 1374, Cheshire, England d. 1419, England,
(Age 45 years)
6. Johanna Joan DE MASSEY, b. 1375, Tatton, Cheshire, England d. 1420, Cheshire, England
(Age 45 years)
7. Lawrence MASSEY, b. 1377, Tatton, Cheshire, England d. Yes, date unknown
8. William MASSEY, b. Abt 1379, Cheshire, England, d. Aft 1429 (Age ~ 51 years)
9. Sir Hugh MASSEY, b. 1380, Tatton Dale, Knutsford, Cheshire, England d. 1420, Rixton, Warrington, Lancashire, England
(Age 40 years)
Family ID F536728676 Group Sheet | Family Chart Last Modified 30 Dec 2022
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Notes - John de Pointington de Massey (Massey), Sir
Also Known As:"De /Pontington/", "de Massey;de Mascy;massie"
Birth circa 1365 Puddington Wirral Cheshire England Died 1404 in Shrewsbury, UK
Immediate Family:Son of Harmon De Pontington Massey and Jane De Pontington Mascy
Husband of Johanna Massey Father of Hamon 1373 Massey; Richard De Massey; Anne Massey; William 1379 de Pointington Massey; John 1385 Massey and 4 others
Brother of Hugh Massey; Mathilde MASSIE; Richard De Massey; Katherine Massie and Ellen Chadderton
http://masseyfamgenealogy.tripod.com/a21.htm#i1477: John De Pontington & Johanna De Coghall Massey were married between 1383 and 1385 in England.
John De Pontington Massey , son of Hamon De Pontington Massey and Jane De Timperley, was born about 1365 in England and died in 1403 in Battle Of Shrewbury, England, about age 38.
The Battle of Shrewsbury, fought on July 21st, 1403 between an army led by the Lancastrian King, Henry, IV and a rebel army led by members of the Percy family from Northumberland, is principally remembered today by many as the climax of Shakespeare's play, Henry IV part 1. The Percy forces, mostly raised from their estates in Cheshire, were believed to be aiming to join forces with a Welsh rebel force led by Owain Glyn Dwr. Shrewsbury was a principal town on the route taken by the Percy forces and was the major crossing point over the river Severn as well as a potential supply base. The royal army had to take and defend the site urgently before the Percies and Glyn Dwr could join up. Our knowledge of the battle, the battlefield and the armies is less than complete and even contemporary estimates of the numbers involved or of those slain are very much open to debate. A curious feature of the battle is that only a few years earlier it was the Percy family who had helped the King take the throne from Richard II. The Percy strongholds of the northern borders had not only made them skilled in warfare but also made them sure of their own rights, and they took grave offense when lands in Cumbria which they felt were their reward for helping the King were granted to a rival.
Early in July 1403, Sir Henry Percy rode south to his Cheshire lands with about 200 men, intending to raise a large force , including numbers of Welsh archers. By July 12th, the King was enroute to face the threat when he heard whilst at Nottingham of the Percy forces' actions. He immediately turned via Burton on Trent and Lichfield preparing to take the field wherever it became necessary. The Percy forces were somewhat deflated when the hoped for Welsh support failed to materialise and only physical and moral pressure induced many of them to stay with the army. Both armies arrived in the vicinity of Shrewsbury from opposite directions a day or so before the battle. The Percy forces encamped around Berwick to the north west of the town., while the King's forces lay in wait to the north east around Haughmond. During the night of the 20th, the royal forces began the crossing of the Severn at Uffington and took the field below Haughmond Abbey. This gave them the wider ground on which their superior numbers could be brought to best use. The Percy army was forced to take the field on unfavourable ground, and although the Percy's had greater military experience than the King, many of their troops did not. Numbers given for the combatants range from 60,000 - 14 ,000 Royalists and 20,000 - 5,000 rebels. For some hours on the morning of the 21st, the two armies faced each other out of arrowshot whilst negotiations took place to try to resolve the position. Eventually, the King seems to have decided that no solution would be reached since the Percies were either too determined in their stance or because they were seeking to bring in surprise reinforcements. The order to advance was given. Both vanguards found themselves subject to such a bombardment of arrows that many were killed within minutes. Once the hand to hand fighting had begun, the royal forces proved superior, and a rash charge from the Percy force led them into disarray and destruction. When the cry went up that Harry Percy (Hotspur) had fallen, resistance crumbled and the slaughter began. Chroniclers of the day recorded that such a slaughter had never been seen or read about in Christian times. Thousands fell . Both sides suffered tremendous casualties, many as the result of the dramatic impact of the use of the English longbow, whose archers were reputed to be able to fire 12 arrows a minute into the enemy ranks - as there were several thousand archers in each force. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Shrewsbury
- John de Pointington de Massey (Massey), Sir
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Sources - [S1160] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 30 Dec 2022), entry for Johanna Joan de Massey, person ID KHP9-R4D. (Reliability: 3).
- [S1160] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 30 Dec 2022), entry for Baron John de Massey, person ID LCT5-W7W. (Reliability: 3).
- [S1160] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 30 Dec 2022), entry for Hugh De Massey, person ID GWXP-NH7. (Reliability: 3).
- [S1160] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 30 Dec 2022), entry for Johanna Joan de Massey, person ID KHP9-R4D. (Reliability: 3).