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Thomas ERSKINE

Thomas ERSKINE

Male 1410 - 1493  (82 years)

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  • Name Thomas ERSKINE  [1
    Born 7 Mar 1410  Erskine, Renfrewshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Gender Male 
    FamilySearch ID LKY9-9ND 
    Title   [2
    Lord of Erskine 
    Title (Nobility)   [2
    14th Earl of Mar 
    Title (Nobility)   [2
    7th Lord of Garioch 
    Name James ERSKINE  [2
    Name Thomas ERSKINE  [2
    Died 1493  Erskine, Renfrewshire, Scotland, United Kingdom Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Buried 1493  Erskine, Renfrewshire, Scotland, United Kingdom Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Person ID I594767580  Carney Wehofer 2024 Genealogy
    Last Modified 2 Jan 2023 

    Father Robert ERSKINE -, First Lord Erskine,   b. 7 Sep 1378, Erskine, Renfrewshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 6 Nov 1452, Sinton, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 74 years) 
    Mother Lady Elizabeth LINDSAY, Of Crawford,   b. 1391, Glenesk, Forfarshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 6 Nov 1452, Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 61 years) 
    Family ID F536728953  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Janet Elisabeth DOUGLAS,   b. 7 Mar 1415, Morton, Dumfriesshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 22 Feb 1490, Selkirkshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 74 years) 
    Married 1430  Selkirkshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Children 
     1. Margaret ERSKINE,   b. 1430, Selkirk, Selkirkshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 10 Dec 1482, Dunnottar Castle, Stonehaven, Kincardineshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 52 years)
     2. Margaret ERKSINE,   b. 1437,   d. Jan 1474, Somme, Picardie, France Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 37 years)
     3. Elizabeth ERSKINE,   b. Abt 1438, Selkirkshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 1490, Huntly, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 52 years)
     4. Lady Mary Mariot ERSKINE, COUNTESS MARISCHAL,   b. 1440, Selkirk, Selkirkshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1482, Dunnotar Castle, Kincardineshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 42 years)
    Last Modified 2 Jan 2023 
    Family ID F536728952  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • Thomas Erskine, 1st Lord Erskine (d. 1494), de jure 14th Earl of Mar, was a Scottish peer.

      Erskine was the son of Robert Erskine, 1st Lord Erskine, and Elizabeth, daughter of David Lindsay, 1st Earl of Crawford. He married Janet Douglas. They had several children. One daughter, Helen, married Humphrey Colquhoun of Luss, son of Sir John Colquhoun of Luss. Another daughter, Margaret, married William Keith, 1st Earl Marischal.[1]

      Lord Erskine died in 1494 and was succeeded by his son, Alexander.

      http://www.erskinclan.com/gene4.html

      Thomas Erskine, the King's bodyguard, foiled the Gowrie Conspiracy and was enobled as Lord Erskine by James II in 1460.

      http://www.instirling.com/sight/tower.htm

      https://www.clanmacfarlanegenealogy.info/genealogy/TNGWebsite/getpe...

      The identity of Thomas Erskine's wife is not certain. She may not have been a daughter of the 1st Earl of Morton although that is often stated, sometimes as Elizabeth but perhaps more often as Janet. Cunningham gedcom source says this Janet died without male issue which would seem to promote Elizabeths claim to the position of wife of Thomas Erskine and mother of his heir and probably other children.

      https://www.genealogy.com/forum/surnames/topics/erskine/378/

      [These are the dates for Thomas, father of the 1st Lord !]

      Parents: Sir Robert Erskine 1st Lord Erskine and Elizabeth Lindsay.

      1st wife: Janet Douglas, heiress of Dalkeith, who died at the birth of her first child[This Janet Douglas was the 1st wife ofThomas, father of the 1st Lord]

      He was married to Janet Douglas before 1445 in Scotland. Douglas' Peerage Vol. 5, pg. 105 - "He married, before 1445, Janet Douglas States in Douglas' Peerage she is the daughter of James, Earl of Morton, granddaughter of King James I.

      [This is impossible, Janet dau of James, Earl of Morton by Joan, dau of King James I cannot have been born before 1459 ? the date of her parent's marriage.She married Bef. 1 Feb 1480/1 to Patrick Hepburn, 1st Earl of Bothwell, and died Bef. 1491.IfJanet Douglas, wife of Thomas, 2nd Lord Erskine was of the Morton family then she came from a previous generation, nothing can be stated with any certainty.She was his wife in Aug 1489]

      2nd wife: Janet Keith or Barclay, widow of Sir David Barclay; It was Janet's heritage that connected the Erskine family with the Earldom of Mar.

      [Janet Keith was the 2nd wife ofThomas, father of the 1st Lord ? vide supra]

      children:[These are misplaced - children of Sir Thomas, father of the 1st Lord] i. - Sir Robert Erskine ii. - John Erskine - ancestor of the Erskines of Dun and of Pittodrie iii. - Elizabeth Erskine - married to Duncan Wemyss of Rires iv. - Margaret Erskine - married to Lord James Rutherfurd[Two of her ?!?]

      Children were: Alexander Erskine 3rd Lord Erskine Helen Erskine Isobel Erskine Elizabeth Erskine Mariota Erskine Margaret Erskine - married Lord James Rutherfurd II[Not shown in SP V, p. 606-7.If their first child ? Peter was b Abt. 1450 then she CANNOT have been born after 1435.Her supposed parents were married Bef .1445 ? vide supra.Thomas d in or Abt. 1493, his parents m Aft. 1400, he was no doubt of age in 1441 ? therefore his birth had to occur between 1401-20, probably much towards the end of that range given his death date]

      https://books.google.com/books?id=2ss6AQAAMAAJ&pg=PA75&lpg=PA75&dq=...

      Thomas, second Lord Erskine, who married Lady Elizabeth Douglas, daughter of James, Earl Of Morton, and dying before 1494, had Alexander, third Lord Erskine, guardian to K. James the IVth.



  • Sources 
    1. [S1160] FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 2 Jan 2023), entry for Lady Mary Mariot Muriella Erskine, Countess Marischal, person ID GFMN-3YW. (Reliability: 3).

    2. [S1160] FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 2 Jan 2023), entry for Thomas Erskine, person ID LKY9-9ND. (Reliability: 3).