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Jacoba DOUGLAS

Female 1375 - 1410  (35 years)

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  • Name Jacoba DOUGLAS  [1, 2
    Born 1375  Dalkeith, Midlothian, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Gender Female 
    FamilySearch ID L6CZ-PXR 
    Name Janet DOUGLAS  [3
    Died 12 Jun 1410  Cadzow, South Lanarkshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [1, 2
    Person ID I594767598  Carney Wehofer 2024 Genealogy
    Last Modified 2 Jan 2023 

    Father Sir James DOUGLAS, of Dalkeith,   b. Abt 1350, Dalkeith, Scotland United Kingdom Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 1420, Dalkeith, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 70 years) 
    Mother Agnes DUNBAR,   b. 1335, Dunbar Castle Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Oct 1378, Lauder, Berwickshire Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 43 years) 
    Married 21 Nov 1372  Scotland United Kingdom, Scotland United Kingdom Find all individuals with events at this location  [1
    Family ID F536728957  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Sir John HAMILTON, 4th Laird of Cadzow,   b. 1370, Lanarkshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 14 Sep 1402, Battle Of Homildon Hill, Northumberland, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 32 years) 
    Married 1 Nov 1388  Cadzow, Lanarkshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Children 
     1. Lady Mary Marjorie HAMILTON,   b. 1395, Lovat Castle, Kilmorack, Iverness-shire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1 Aug 1442, Picardie, France Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 47 years)
     2. Thomas HAMILTON,   b. 1387, Cadzow, Lanarkshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     3. Walter Thomas HAMILTON, - of Darngaber,   b. 1395, Cadzow, Lanarkshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 20 May 1441, Somme, Picardie, France Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 46 years)
     4. David HAMILTON, - of Dalserf and Fleurs,   b. 1396, Cadzow Castle, Lanarkshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1476  (Age 81 years)
     5. Elizabeth HAMILTON,   b. 1398, Cadzow, Lanarkshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Yes, date unknown
     6. Michael HAMILTON,   b. Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 1 May 1502
    Last Modified 2 Jan 2023 
    Family ID F536728996  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • About Janet Douglas of Dalkeith
      From Darryl Lundy's Peerage page on Janet Douglas:
      http://thepeerage.com/p2483.htm#i24828

      Janet Douglas
      She was the daughter of Sir James Douglas of Dalkeith and Agnes Dunbar.[1] Janet Douglas used the stage-name of Jacoba.

      A contract for the marriage of Janet Douglas and Sir John Hamilton, 4th of Cadzow was signed on 15 August 1381.
      She and Sir William Douglas of Drumlanrig obtained a marriage license on 12 June 1410.

      Children of Janet Douglas and Sir John Hamilton, 4th of Cadzow

      1. Sir James Hamilton, 5th of Cadzow+ d. b May 1441
      2. Elizabeth Hamilton+[3]
      Citations

      1. [S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 2, page 2787. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
      2. [S37] Charles Mosley, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition, volume 1, page 4.
      3. [S37] Charles Mosley, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition, volume 1, page 5.
      From the English Wikipedia page on John Hamilton, her husband:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hamilton_of_Cadzow

      John Hamilton married Janet or Jacoba Douglas, daughter of Sir James Douglas, 1st Lord Dalkeith, prior to 1388. It was thought that he had three sons by her:

      1. James Hamilton of Cadzow
      2. David Hamilton of Dalserf
      3. Walter Hamilton of Raploch
      However DNA testing of descendants of James and Walter in the Hamilton Surname DNA Project show that these two did not have the same father. The DNA project shows that the descendants of Walter and his uncle John Hamilton of Fingalton are related, which suggests that James's biological father was not from the same family.[1]

      References

      1. ^ "Hamilton surname DNA results". Hamilton Surname DNA Project. Last updated November 2008. Retrieved 2009-02-28.
      http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/g/a/gah4/HamDNA/Results.html
      From HAMILTON SURNAME DNA RESULTS AND DISCUSSION

      http://www.personal.psu.edu/users/g/a/gah4/HamDNA/Results.html

      It is of some interest that the mother of James1 was Jacoba (Janet) Douglas (probably born about 1372), daughter of Sir James Douglas of Dalkeith and his first wife Agnes Dunbar. Agnes apparently died about 1378. By the time of Jacoba's marriage on 1 November 1388 to Sir John Hamilton, 4th of Cadzow, Sir James Douglas was married to Egidia Stewart, a half sister of King Robert II. Since the Douglas, Dunbar (Agnes was a sister of the Earl of March) and Stewart families were so prominent in that era in Scotland, the marriage of Jacoba to Sir John Hamilton of Cadzow undoubtedly brought prestige to the Hamilton family and ultimately led to future generations of the family playing such a prominent role in Scottish society. It may be that Jacoba knew her first born son was not fathered by her husband so rather than naming him after the Hamiltons she named him after her father. James as a first name was not used by any male line descendants of Walter Fitzgilbert de Hamilton up to that time but in subsequent generations James was used for all first born sons up to the first Duke of Hamilton.

      Who was the father of James1? That is not known but one can speculate. If he or other relatives left male line descendants then they should show up with the Group B profile but with a different surname. The Group B DNA profile has unusual STR values at some sites, so unusual in fact that the presence of a combination of these values for a known haplogroup I1 individual virtually ensures that the person must be closely related to the Group B Hamiltons, regardless of surname. These unusual STR values are: 7 at DYS459a, 18 at YCAIIa, and 12 at DYS640. There are individuals with 5 other surnames known to have this Group B profile and who do not have a known connection to a Hamilton; they are A-214 (surname Arthurs), F-204 (surname Frame), F-313 (surname Filby), M-183 (surname Morrison) and B-324 (surname Baker). Of these, a Frame would seem to be the most likely father for James1. There are now three Frames (Frame Group B) known to have the Hamilton Group B profile. Also, the possible close connection of the Hamiltons and the Frames is accentuated by the fact that most of those with the Frame surname (Frame Group A) have a DNA profile very similar to the Group C Hamiltons. Furthermore, the Frames like the Hamiltons, Stewarts and Douglases have had a presence in Lanarkshire and other counties of Lowland Scotland for several centuries. It should be emphasized that a Frame as the father of James1 has not been proven; it is just a current working hypothesis.

      The foregoing analysis suggests that all Hamilton participants in Group B are male line descendants of just one person, namely James1. This is consistent with the limited dispersion of marker values observed for those in Group B; the dispersion is about what would be expected for a 600 year (or about 20 generation) time period. The dispersion of marker values in Group A is greater indicating that the common ancestor for all those in Group A lived in an earlier time period. Also, the fact that there are considerably more participants in Group A than in Group B implies that the Group A line was initiated earlier. It is likely that Walter Fitzgilbert himself is the ancestor for most Hamiltons in Group A but the results would be consistent with some in Group A being derived from earlier male ancestors or male cousins of Walter Fitzgilbert.

      Links

      http://www.clanmacfarlanegenealogy.info/genealogy/TNGWebsite/getperson.php?personID=I2081&tree=CC
      http://www.thepeerage.com/p2483.htm#i24828
      https://histfam.familysearch.org//getperson.php?personID=I999&tree=EuropeRoyalNobleHous
      Janet (Jacoba) "Janet" Douglas Dalkeith Born 1379 in Dalkeith,Mid,Lothian,Scotlandmap Daughter of James Douglas and Agnes Dunbar Sister of William Douglas, James (Douglas) first Lord Dalkeith, Agnes Douglas and James Douglas Wife of Unknown Unknown ? married [date unknown] [location unknown] Wife of John Hamilton ? married about 1388 in ,Cadzow,Lanarkshire,Scotlandmap Mother of David Hamilton, Margery Catherine Hamilton, James (Hamilton) Hamilton fifth Laird of Cadzow, Elizabeth (Hamilton) Fraser, Walter Hamilton, Mary Hamilton and Catherine Hamilton Died May 14, 1392 in Cadzow,Paisley,Lanarkshire,Scotlandmap Profile managers: Herbert Wolfe private message [send private message] and Ted Williams private message [send private message] This page has been accessed 709 times.

      Nominate for Profile of the Week by posting the link http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Douglas-588 in our G+ Community. Vote by clicking the +1 button above. Husband: James Hamilton Wife: Janet Livingstone

      Child: Mary (Or Marjory) Hamilton Child: James Hamilton

      Child: Alexander Hamilton Child: John Hamilton

      Child: Gavin Hamilton Child: Agnes Hamilton

      Child: Elizabeth Hamilton

      Marriage: Date: BEF 20 OCT 1422[5] Husband: John Hamilton Wife: Jacoba (Janet) Douglas Child: Thomas Hamilton

      Child: James Hamilton Child: Walter Hamilton

      Child: Catherine Hamilton Child: David Hamilton

      Marriage: Date: NOV 1388[6] [edit]

      Contents

      [hide] 1 Biography 1.1 Name 1.2 Birth 1.3 Data Changed 1.4 LDS Endowment 1.5 Event 1.6 Marriage 2 Sources 3 Biography 3.1 Name 4 Sources 5 Biography 5.1 Death 5.2 Record ID Number 5.3 User ID 5.4 Marriage 6 Sources 7 Biography 7.1 Name Biography

      This biography is a rough draft. It was auto-generated by a GEDCOM import and needs to be edited.

      Name

      Name: Jacoba (Janet) /DOUGLAS/ [1][2][3] Name: Jacoba (Janet) /HAMILTON/ Found multiple versions of NAME. Using Jacoba (Janet) /DOUGLAS/ .

      Birth

      Birth: Date: ABT 1379 Place: Of, Dalkeith, MLN, Scotland[4] Data Changed


      LDS Endowment

      LDS Endowment: Date: 01 NOV 1934[5] Event

      Event: Type: Event-Misc Place: 91K4-V5[6] Marriage

      Husband: John Hamilton Wife: Jacoba (Janet) Douglas Child: Thomas Hamilton Child: James Hamilton Child: Walter Hamilton Child: Catherine Hamilton Child: David Hamilton Marriage: Date: NOV 1388[7] Sources

      WikiTree profile Douglas-805 created through the import of FAMILY 6162011.GED on Jun 20, 2011 by Michael Stephenson. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Michael and others. Source: S1281 Title: Type: Ancestral File Number Abbreviation: Type: Ancestral File Number Source: S2 Title: Pedigree Resource File CD 49 Abbreviation: Pedigree Resource File CD 49 Publication: (Salt Lake City, UT: Intellectual Reserve, Inc., 2002) Source: S3 Title: Ancestral File (TM) Abbreviation: Ancestral File (TM) Author: The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day SAINTS Publication: June 1998 (c), data as of 5 JAN 1998 Repository: #R1 Repository: R1 Name: Unknown Source: S4 Title: hofundssonAnces.ged Abbreviation: hofundssonAnces.ged Repository: #R1 ? Source: #S2 ? Source: #S3 ? Source: #S4 ? Source: #S4 ? Source: #S4 ? Source: #S1281 ? Source: #S4

      Biography

      This biography is a rough draft. It was auto-generated by a GEDCOM import and needs to be edited.

      Name

      Name: Jacoba /Douglas/[8] Sources

      WikiTree profile Douglas-832 created through the import of WILLIAMS 2011.GED on Jun 22, 2011 by Ted Williams. See the Changes page for the details of edits by Ted and others. Source: S004444 Title: Ancestry Family Trees Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: Ancestry.com. Original data: Family Tree files submitted by Ancestry members. Note: #NS044441 Repository: Note: #NS044443 No NOTE record found with id NS044441.

      Note NS044443 NAME Ancestry.com ADDR http://www.Ancestry.com NOTE ? Source: #S2 ? Source: #S3 ? Source: #S4 ? Source: #S4 ? Source: #S4 ? Source: #S1281 ? Source: #S4 ? Source: #S004444 Page: Ancestry Family Trees Data: Text: http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=13078823&pid=334859309

      Biography





  • Sources 
    1. [S1160] FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 2 Jan 2023), entry for James Douglas, person ID GJJ1-533. (Reliability: 3).

    2. [S1160] FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 2 Jan 2023), entry for Mary Hamilton, person ID L2YF-2KQ. (Reliability: 3).

    3. [S1160] FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 2 Jan 2023), entry for Jacoba Douglas, person ID L6CZ-PXR. (Reliability: 3).