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Eleanor WELLES

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Name Eleanor WELLES [1] Birth Abt 1425 Welles, Lincolnshire, England [1]
Gender Female FamilySearch ID 994L-SSD TitleOfNobility Ashton Hall, Lancashire, England [1]
Baroness (Lawrence) Name Alianore Welles [1] Name Alyanore de Welles [1] Death 13 Feb 1455 Yorkshire, England [1]
Person ID I594784622 Carney Wehofer 2024 Genealogy Last Modified 17 Dec 2024
Father Lionel DE WELLES, b. 25 Mar 1406, Welles, Lincolnshire, England d. 29 Mar 1461, Towton, Selby District, North Yorkshire, England
(Age 55 years)
Mother Lady Joan WATERTON, b. 1407, Methley, West Yorkshire, England d. Aft 18 Oct 1434, Methley, Yorkshire, England
(Age 27 years)
Marriage 15 Aug 1427 Methley, Yorkshire, England Family ID F536733972 Group Sheet | Family Chart
Family 1 Sir Thomas 1St Baron HOO, Of Luton Hoo, b. Abt 1396, Luton Hoo, Luton, Bedfordshire, England d. 13 Feb 1455, Luton Hoo, Bedfordshire, England
(Age ~ 59 years)
Marriage 1 Mar 1447 Gatton, Surrey, England Children 1. Anne HOO, II, b. Abt 1448, England d. Abt 1535, Sussex, England
(Age ~ 87 years)
2. Eleanor HOO, b. Abt 1450, Luton Hoo, Bedfordshire, England d. Yes, date unknown
3. Elizabeth HOO, b. Jan 1451, Luton Hoo, Bedfordshire, England d. Jan 1504 (Age ~ 53 years)
Family ID F536733949 Group Sheet | Family Chart Last Modified 17 Dec 2024
Family 2 Sir James LAWRENCE, b. 1428, Ashton Hall, Lancashire, England d. 31 May 1490, Ashton Hall, Lancashire, England
(Age 62 years)
Children 1. Agnes LAWRENCE, b. 1443, England d. 1490 (Age 47 years)
2. Jane THOMAS, b. 1448, England d. Yes, date unknown
Family ID F536733974 Group Sheet | Family Chart Last Modified 17 Dec 2024
Family 3 Hugh DE HASTINGS, b. Abt 1425, England d. Yes, date unknown
Family ID F536733975 Group Sheet | Family Chart Last Modified 17 Dec 2024
Family 4 Hugh HASTING, b. Abt 1433, Lincolnshire, England d. Yes, date unknown
Family ID F536733976 Group Sheet | Family Chart Last Modified 17 Dec 2024
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Notes - Biography
European Aristocracy
Eleanor Welles was a member of the aristocracy in England.
Eleanor Welles, daughter of Lionel (Leo) Welles, K.G., 6th Lord Welles, by his first wife Joan (or Jane) Waterton, married (1) Sir Thomas Hoo, (2) Sir James Lawrence, (3) Hugh Hastings.[1]
First Marriage to Thomas Hoo
Eleanor Welles married (1st) Thomas Hoo, K. G., Lord Hoo and Hastings. [2]
They had three daughters[3][4][5]
Anne (wife of Roger Copley)
Eleanor
Elizabeth, (wife of Thomas Masingbeard and John Devenish, Knt.
Through the first marriage of Eleanor de Welles to Thomas Hoo, 1st Baron Hoo, Eleanor became the ancestor of American Presidents George H. W. Bush and his son George W. Bush.[6]
Second Marriage to James Lawrence
Eleanor Welles married (2nd) James Lawrence, Knt, of Ashton by Lancaster, Lancashire [See Hoo-14] [2]
Sir Thomas Hoo's widow married (2nd) before 1461 James Lawrence, Knt, of Ashton by Lancaster, Carnforth (in Warton, Middleton, Overton, Skerton, and Stodday, Lancashire, son and heir of Robert Lawrence, of Ashton, Middleton, Camforth, etc., Lancashire, by Agnes, daughter of Nicholas Croft. He was born about 1428 (aged 22 in 1450). He was knighted in Scotland in the expedition of 1482.[3] They had at least two children:[3]
Thomas, Knt[7]
John, who was killed in the Battle of Flodden in 1513[7]
Sir James Lawrence died 31 May 1490. His widow, Eleanor, is said to have married (3rd) Hugh Hastings. She died before 1504.[3]
Research Notes
Previously shown son
Eleanor has previously been shown on WikiTree as mother of John Lawrence of Ramsey, Huntingdonshire. This is incorrect. James and Eleanor did have a son called John, but he died at the Battle of Flodden Field in 1513, and his IPM the next year shows that he had no male heirs and that his estate passed to a collateral member of his family, Lancelot Lawrence.[7]
Other suggested children of her second marriage
Douglas Richardson lists three other children of Eleanor's second marriage: Robert (a priest), Jane, and Agnes wife of William Tunstall.[3] Richardson's source appears to be an 1868 pedigree in Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica which claims to be based on a Lawrence pedigree in the 1567 Visitation of Lancashire,[8] but no such pedigree exists in the Chetham Society edition of the Visitation.[9] A reasonably well-sourced 1874 article names only Thomas and John his younger brother, who survived Thomas but, as stated above, died in 1513 with his estate passing to a collateral relative in the absence of nearer heirs.[7] There is therefore doubt as to whether Robert, Jane and Agnes were children of James Lawrence and Eleanor Welles.
A Robert Lawrence was presented by Sir James Lawrence to the church living of Warton, Lancashire in 1589/90. He was succeeded in 1507/8 by Richard Dudley, so he almost certainly died about then. He was presumably a relative of James, but there is no indication of how they were related.[10]
Sources
? Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham, (Salt Lake City, Utah: the author, 2013), Vol V, p 336 WELLES #13ii
? 2.0 2.1 Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, 2013, Volume 5, page 336
? 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, 2013, Volume 3, pp. 308-309
? Nicholas Harris Nicolas. Testamenta Vetusta, Vol. I, Nichols and Son, 1826, pp. 272-274, will of Thomas Hoo, Internet Archive
? Robert Clutterbuck. The History and Antiquities of the County of Hertford, Vol. III, John Bowyer Nicholls (London), 1827, p. 95, viewable on Familysearch (go to image page 99)
? Gary Boyd Roberts, Ancestors of American Presidents (New England Historic Genealogical Society; Location: Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts, USA; Date: 2009), p. 381
? 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 John Gough Nichols, Lawrence of Ashton, Co. Lancaster in 'The Herald and Genealogist', Vol. VIII, R C Nichols and J B Nichols, 1874 - includes abstracts of IPMs of her second husband Thomas Lawrence and (in Latin) their son John at pp. 216-219, Internet Archive
? Miscellanea Genealogica et Heraldica, Vol. I, 1868, p. 199, Internet Archive
? The Visitation of the County Palatine of Lancaster made in the year 1567 by William Flower Esq., Chetham Society, 18670, Internet Archive
? 'The parish of Warton', in A History of the County of Lancaster: Volume 8, ed. William Farrer and J Brownbill (London, 1914), pp. 151-161, British History Online, accessed 31 October 2021
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Sources - [S1160] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 17 Dec 2024), entry for Eleanor Welles, person ID 994L-SSD. (Reliability: 3).
- [S1160] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 17 Dec 2024), entry for Eleanor Welles, person ID 994L-SSD. (Reliability: 3).