Alice ST OMER

1340 - Bef 1376  (35 years)

• Name	Alice ST OMER  [1]
  Christening	1340	Britford, Wiltshire, England   [1]
  Birth	25 Mar 1340	Britford, Wiltshire, England   [1]
  Gender	Female
  FamilySearch ID	GLFK-G4W
  Death	Bef 1376	Norfolk, England   [1]
  Burial	1401	Mulbarton, South Norfolk District, Norfolk, England   [1]
  Person ID	I594784648	Carney Wehofer 2024 Genealogy
  Last Modified	17 Dec 2024

  
  

  Father	Thomas DE ST OMER,   b. 1320, Brundall, Norfolk, England d. 1365, Mulbarton, Norfolk, England (Age 45 years)
  Mother	Petronilla MALMAYNS,   b. 1328, England d. Aft 1345, Britford, Wiltshire, England (Age 18 years)
  Marriage	1343	Britford, Wiltshire district, Wiltshire, England, United Kingdom
  Family ID	F536734007	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  
  

  Family	William HOO,   b. Abt 1342, Offley, Hertfordshire, England d. Nov 1410, Mulbarton, Norfolk, England (Age ~ 68 years)
  Marriage	Abt 1360
  Children	1. Sir Thomas HOO,   b. Abt 1363, Luton Hoo, Bedfordshire, England d. 23 Aug 1420, Luton Hoo, Bedfordshire, England (Age ~ 57 years)
  Family ID	F536733963	Group Sheet  |  Family Chart
  Last Modified	17 Dec 2024

  
  

• Notes

  Alice de St Omer was the eldest daughter and co-heir of Sir Thomas de St Omer and his first wife, Petronilla (Pernell) Malmaynes (Malmains). She was born at about 1343 at Hulcote, Northamptsonshire. By 1366, she had married Sir William de Hoo. [1] [2] [3] [4] "Sir Thomas de St. Omer . . . had two wives; Petronilla, the first, daughter and coheir of Nicholas Malmains, by whom he had Alice, who married Sir William de Hoo . . . "[5] "He left two daughters his heiresses; Elizabeth, (fn. 10) married Thomas Waryn, and they levied a fine, and thereby released all right in the manors of Mulbarton, Keteringham, and Brundale, in Norfolk, to Sir Will. de Hoo, Knt. and Alice his wife, half sister to the said Elizabeth . . . "[6] Alice and Sir William had a son Thomas, who became, like his father, a knight in the Hundred Years War between England and France. Alice died some time between 1373, when she was named as party to a contract, and 1376, when, after her death, William de Hoo married again to Eleanor Wingfield, daughter of Sir Thomas Wingfield, with whom he had a daughter Margaret and a son John.[7] Alice de Hoo was buried in the chancel of the church of St Mary Magdalene in Mulburton, Norfolk. William de Hoo died in 1410 and joined her there in death. Research Note: Some genealogists have suggested that William and Alice de Hoo had two additional sons, who left numerous descendants in Norfolk and Suffolk. Blomefield [8] states: "This family was descended from Robert Hoo, third son of Sir William Hoo, by Alice, daughter of Sir Thomas St. Omer, as the pedigree following testifies." The pedigree, however, names this third son as Richard of Blyburgh (Blyborough), not Robert. It is conceivable that the Robert meant could be William's brother Robert, of whom little is known, and who might be the father of this Richard. There are other minor errors in the pedigree, as possibly mistaking Sir Thomas de Hoo with his son Thomas, Lord of Hoo and Hastings, so that it is difficult to have full confidence in the lineage he presents. The second-named son is William of Wissett. Augustine Page [9] states: "William, second son of SIr William Hoo, and Alice his wife, daughter and heiress of Sir Thomas St. Omer, was seated in this parish (Wisset). He married Rose, daughter of Sir John Glemham, Knt., and died about the reign of King Edward VI, leaving issue Wm. and Thos. Hoo." Elsewhere, however, [10] Page appears to mix the family members up in a manner almost unrecognizable, greatly diminishing the credibility of his account. The Visitation of Norfolk [3] has perhaps the most impossible account, as it places William of Wisset in both Norfolk and Suffolk as two different men, one the father of the other, with the elder William named as Sir William de Hoo's grandson, son of his son Thomas, and thus a brother of Thomas, Lord of Hoo and Hastings. This can not be true. Lord Hoo is known to have left his estate to his half-brother Thomas Hoo, precisely in default of other possible heirs, and Thomas dying without issue, it was divided amongst Lord Hoo's daughters. A brother William, even a half-brother, would have been an heir. The Visitation places Richard of Blyburgh as a son of WIlliam of Wisset (the 2nd-listed, who seems to be the actual William). Richard is listed as marrying Margaret, daughter of John Glemham, while William married Rose Glemham. These may be supposed to be sisters, but it is not clear which John Glemham is the father; John Glemham seems the most likely, as his wife was named Rose, assuming the same generations are involved. Hopefully, further research will clarify these issues and establish how the later generations of Hoos are descended, if they are, from the branch of Luton Hoo, or if they descend from indigenous Norfolk Hoos, who seem to have been plentiful from an early age. It would certainly be possible for genealogists to have attempted to attach descendants to titled ancestors, where in fact there were not. Sources ? Sharp, J E E S, and A E Stamp. "Inquisitions Post Mortem, Edward III, File 42." Calendar of Inquisitions Post Mortem: Volume 7, Edward III. London: His Majesty's Stationery Office, 1909. 448-458. British History Online. Web. 26 July 2021. IPM#664, 16 June 9 Edward III ? Bedfordshire Archives: Hoo of Luton Hoo. Hoo of Luton Hoo ? 3.0 3.1 The visitacion [i.e., visitation] of Norfolk, made and taken by William Hervey, Clarencieux King of Arms, anno 1563 Walter Rye, ed. Visitation ? Cokayne, G E. The complete peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant. 2nd edition, vol. 6, 1926. p. 566. Cokayne ? Blomefield, Francis. "Blofield Hundred: Brundale." An Essay Towards A Topographical History of the County of Norfolk: Volume 7. London: W Miller, 1807. 219-221. British History Online. Web. 25 July 2021. Brundale ? Blomefield, Francis. "Hundred of Humble-Yard: Mulbarton." An Essay Towards A Topographical History of the County of Norfolk: Volume 5. London: W Miller, 1806. 75-83. British History Online. Web. 25 July 2021. http://www.british-history.ac.uk/topographical-hist-norfolk/vol5/pp75-83 Mulbarton] ? Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 623, pp. 304-305. ? Blomefield, Francis. "Launditch Hundred: Scarning." An Essay Towards A Topographical History of the County of Norfolk: Volume 10. London: W Miller, 1809. 38-47. British History Online. Web. 25 July 2021. http://www.british-history.ac.uk/topographical-hist-norfolk/vol10/pp38-47 Scarning] ? Page, Augustine. A topographical and genealogical history of the County of Suffolk Ipswich Suffolk, 1844. Wissett ? Page, p. 107. Cokayne, G E. The complete peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, extant, extinct, or dormant. 2nd edition, vol. 6, 1926. p. 566. Cokayne Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry, vol 1, 2nd edition, 2011. p. 498. Magna Carta

  
  

• Sources

  [S1160] The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 17 Dec 2024), entry for Alice St Omer, person ID GLFK-G4W. (Reliability: 3).