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Cunedda "Wledig" Ap Edern King Of GWYNEDD |
| Nickname |
Wledig |
| Born |
Abt 385 |
Manau Gododdin (Clackmannan, Scotland)  |
| Gender |
Male |
| AFN |
HPGD-CX |
| FamilySearch ID |
GJJL-RNW |
| Titled |
- King of Votadini (North Britain)
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Cunedda "Wledig" Ap EDERN |
| Name |
Cunedda "Wledig" King Ap Edern Of GWYNEDD |
| Name |
Cunetacius (Kenneth) King Of GWYNEDD |
| Name |
Wledig |
| _UID |
335473EEE912467C928DA36D1D17EDF1E628 |
| Died |
Gwynedd, Caernarvonshire, Wales |
| Person ID |
I6935 |
Carney Wehofer 2024 Genealogy |
| Last Modified |
13 Dec 2022 |
| Family |
Gwawl Verch Coel Of BRITAIN, b. Abt 386, Wales, England , d. Yes, date unknown |
| Married |
, North Wales |
| Children |
| | 1. Tybion Ap CUNEDDA, b. Abt 408, Of, Meirionydd, Merionethshire, Wales , d. Yes, date unknown |
| | 2. Edern Ap CUNEDDA, b. Abt 410, Of, Edeirnion, Merionethshire, Wales , d. Yes, date unknown |
| | 3. Rhufon Ap CUNEDDA, b. Abt 411, Of, Rhufoniog, Denbighshire, Wales , d. Yes, date unknown |
| | 4. Ceredig Ap Cunedda Prince Of GWYNEDD, b. Abt 413, Gwynedd, Caernarvonshire, Wales , d. Ceredigion, Cymru (Wales) |
| | 5. Afloeg Ap CUNEDDA, b. Abt 414, Of Cafflogion, Llyn, Caernarvonshire, Wales , d. Yes, date unknown |
| | 6. Ysfael Ap CUNEDDA, b. Abt 416, Wales, England , d. Yes, date unknown |
| | 7. Einion "The Impetuous" King Of GWYNEDD, b. Abt 419, North Wales , d. Yes, date unknown |
| | 8. Dunog Ap CUNEDDA, b. Abt 419, Of, Dunoding, Wales , d. Yes, date unknown |
| | 9. Tegid (Tegeingl) Verch CUNEDDA, b. Abt 420, Wales, England , d. Yes, date unknown |
| | 10. Dogfael Ap CUNEDDA, b. Abt 422, Of Dogfeiling, Dyffryn Clwyd, Denbighshire, Wales , d. Yes, date unknown |
| | 11. Gwen Verch Cunedda, b. Abt 430, d. Yes, date unknown |
| | 12. Ysfael Gwron "Hero" Ap Cunedda King YNYS MON, b. Abt 431, Votadini, North Britain , d. Ynys Mon (Anglesey), Cymru (Wales) |
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| Last Modified |
29 Aug 2016 |
| Family ID |
F3483 |
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- Cunedda Wledig, King of North Wales
(Born c.AD 380)
(Latin: Cunetacius; English: Kenneth)
Cunedda or Cunedag Wledig (the Imperator) was a northern British chieftain, a sub-King of Gododdin who ruled Manau Gododdin on the Firth of Forth around Clackmannan. Not much is known about his life in the North, though an ancient poem generally known as the Marwnad Cunedda records his wars against the kingdoms of Coel Hen and his descendants, when "the forts will tremble.....in Caer Weir [supposedly Durham] and Caer Liwelydd [Carlisle]". Cunedda's paternal ancestors bore Roman names for three generations, including Paternus of the Red Robe, a name which has brought suggestions that the family ruled North of Hadrian's Wall in some sort of official Roman capacity. His maternal grandmother was supposedly the grandaughter of Conan Meriadoc, male heir of the legendary Welsh King, Eudaf Hen. He was therefore chosen by the northern Welsh to help them in their fight against the invading Irish. Nennius reports:
Maelgwn, the great king, was reigning among the Britons in the region of Gwynedd, for his ancester Cunedag, with his sons, whose number was eight, had come previously from the northern part, that is from the region which is called Manau Gododdin, one hundred and forty-six years before Maelgwn reigned. And with great slaughter they drove out from those regions the Scotti who never returned again to inhabit them.
The Harleian MS 3859 further tells us:
These are the names of the sons of Cunedda, whose number was nine: Tybion, the first-born, who died in the region called Manau Gododdin and did not come hither with his father and his aforesaid brothers. Meirion, his son, divided the possessions among his [Tybion's] brothers. 2. Ysfael, 3. Rhufon, 4. Dunod, 5. Ceredig, 6. Afloeg, 7. Einion Yrth, 8. Dogfael, 9. Edern. This is their boundary: from the river which is called Dyfrdwy [the Dee] , to another river, the Teifi; and they held very many districts in the western part of Britain.
Other sons, generally considered more legendary, may have included Gwron, Mael, Coel and Arwystl. Daughters were Tegeingl and Gwen, the wife of Amlawdd Wledig.
It seems clear therefore that Cunedda and his warbands rode clean across Britain to assist their Western cousins. Soon only Llyn, Arfon, Arllechwedd and the majority of Anglesey remained in Irish hands. Cunedda also took raiding parties further south and expelled the Ui Liathain from Gwyr, Cedweli and parts of Dyfed. He finally settled down in Rhos which was the original heartland of Gwynedd. His family founded a number of Royal dynasties in the regions now named after his many sons: Meirionydd, Ysfeilion, Rhufoniog, Dunoding, Ceredigion, Afflogion, Dogfeiling and Edeyrnion.
The main question in Cunedda's life concerns the date of these events. PC Bartrum suggests a timeframe no earlier than AD 370 and no later than AD 430. The latter date appears to conform to the general consensus of opinion, though a little later is possible. Perhaps the western migration of Cunedda and his men was part of the distinct policy of a High-King like Vortigern Vorteneu. The figure of one hundred and forty-six years before King Maelgwn Gwynedd's reign, on the other hand, might suggest a period around the 380s. A Roman mercenary movement following Magnus Maximus' troop withdrawal has been suggested, though indications of his son's rule in the area would contradict this possibility.
Cunedda Wledig's Ancestry
Cunedda Wledig (the Imperator) was a powerful warrior prince from the North of Britain. He hailed from Manau Gododdin - the area around Clackmannan in modern Scotland - and may have been the ruling sub-king, under the Kings of Greater Gododdin. Around AD 430 or a little later, his family was invited - possibly by the remnants of Roman Officialdom - to rid North Wales of invading Irish pirates. Cunedda and his sons eagerly obliged and thus established a range of monarchies in the region which actually originated amongst the Men of the North.
His pedigree appears in the Jesus College MS 20 and other early Welsh genealogical tracts thus:
However, the earlier pedigree in the Harleian MS 3859 gives a more accurate picture:
The older pedigree shows that a number of the generations given in the later ancestries are, in fact, duplications. Three of them simply add the prefix 'Guor-' on to each name and it has been suggested that this was part of some sort of bardic chant which helped people remember the names.
Cunedda, like many of his contemporaries, claimed descent from the Celtic gods, Beli and Afallach. Yet, his immediate ancestors had extremely Roman names: Aeternus, Paternus & Tacitus. They were probably leaders of the Votadini tribe. They were on excellent terms with the Roman administration south of Hadrian's Wall and may have formed part of a pro-Roman borderland buffer zone after the irruptions of AD 367/9. Paternus' Red-Robe may even suggest the official purple garb of the Roman Administration. The family continued thus:
Cunedda Wledig (the Imperator), King of Manau Gododdin & Gwynedd
m. Gwawl ferch Coel Hen
Tybion, abt 417 -
Ysfael Gwron, abt 418 -
Rhufon, abt 419 -
Dunod, abt 420 -
Ceredig Ceredigion, abt 421 -
Afloeg, abt 422 -
Einion Yrth, abt 423 -
Dogfael, abt 424 -
Edern, abt 425 -
Tegeingl, abt 426 -
Gwen, abt 427 - , m. Amlawdd Wledig (the Imperator)
ore unreliable sources give three further sons:
Mael, abt 428 -
Coel, abt 429 -
Arwystl, abt 430 -
Early British Kingdoms
David Nash Ford
Source: lorenfamily.com
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