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Carney & Wehofer Family
Genealogy Pages
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Bef 1423 -
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Name |
Joan TALBOT [3, 4, 5, 6, 7] |
Born |
Bef 1423 |
Waterford, Waterford, Munster, Ireland [3, 5, 8] |
Gender |
Female |
FamilySearch ID |
GX95-SKX |
_UID |
C07D18165988431B892F699C8C5FF04183D7 |
Died |
, Grafton, Worcester, England [3, 5] |
- (SPS) Sine Prole Supersite (Died without surviving issue)
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Person ID |
I8061 |
Carney Wehofer 2024 Genealogy |
Last Modified |
12 Dec 2022 |
Father |
Sir John TALBOT, Knight, b. 1385, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England , d. 17 Jul 1453, Battle Of Castillon, Bordeaux, France (Killed) (Age 68 years) |
Mother |
Maude De NEVILLE, 6th Baroness Furnival, b. 21 Dec 1392, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England , d. 31 May 1423, Priory, Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England (Age 30 years) |
Married |
Bef 8 Mar 1406-1407 |
England [3, 5, 9] |
Alt. Marriage |
Bef 12 Mar 1406-1407 [10, 11, 12, 13] |
Alt. Marriage |
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Family ID |
F3852 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Family |
James "The Just" 1St Baron De BERKELEY, Sir, b. Abt 1394, Raglan, Monmouthshire, Wales , d. Nov 1463, Berkeley Castle, Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England (Age ~ 69 years) |
Married |
25 Jul 1457 |
<, Axholme, Lincoln, England> [3, 5, 8, 14, 15, 16] |
_STAT |
Settlement |
Last Modified |
29 Aug 2016 |
Family ID |
F4054 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
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Notes |
- Joan, daughter of John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, by Maud, daughter of Thomas Nevill, Lord Furnivale. Joan married (2) May 1474 Edmund Hungerford. [Magna Charta Sureties]
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He [James de Berkeley] married, 4thly, (Settlment 25 July 1457) Joan, daughter of John (TALBOT), 1st EARL OF SHREWSBURY, by his 1st wife, Maud, elder daughter and heir of Thomas (NEVILL), LORD FURNIVAL, which Joan was consequently stepdaughter of Margaret, Countess of Shrewsbury abovenamed. He died at Berkeley Castle, Nov 1463, within 36 days of having (22 Oct.) executed a deed of reconciliation with the said Countess and was buried at Berkeley. His widow married, before 26 May 1474, Edmund Hungerford. [Complete Peerage II:132-3, XIV:87, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
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Joan; married c 25 July 1457, as his 3rd or 4th wife, 1st Lord (Baron) Berkeley; married 2nd 1487 Edmund Hungerford. [Burke's Peerage]
Note: Burke's Peerage indicates that Joan is daughter of John Talbot by Margaret Beauchamp, his 2nd wife. This differs from MCS & CP, which have her mother Maud Neville, his 1st wife and names Margaret Beauchamp as her step-mother. Her birth date is close to Maud's death and Margaret's marriage date. Could be either one.
Note: I have no idea (and neither does anyone else I have seen) who Edmund Hungerford is, that Joan supposedly married in 1474 or 1487.
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Sources |
- [S714] Hohelohe, Bethune Research, Kirk Larson, (Sept 23 2003).
- [S579] Jim Weber.
- [S112] Ancestral File? v4.19 (FamilySearch?), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, ((Created by FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service, 50 East North Temple Street, Salt Lake City, UT 84150, April 1, 1999)).
- [S25] Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 28B-10 (Reliability: 3).
- [S90] Larson: Genealogical Research of Kirk Larson, Larson, Kirk, (Personal Research Works including Bethune & Hohenlohe Descendants, 1981-2001, Kirk Larson, Private Library).
- [S289] Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles M o s l e y Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 26 May 2003., 2605 (Reliability: 3).
- [S63] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, II:132-3 (Reliability: 3).
- [S63] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, II:132 (Reliability: 3).
- [S44] Newsgroup: soc.genealogy.medieval, at groups - google.com, Douglas Richardson, 16 May 2003 (Reliability: 3).
- [S289] Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles M o s l e y Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 26 May 2003., 2605, 2241 (Reliability: 3).
- [S25] Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 141-8 (Reliability: 3).
- [S63] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, XI:702 (Reliability: 3).
- [S63] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, V:591 (Reliability: 3).
- [S159] Haws: Genealogical Research of Taylor Marsden Haws (e-mail), Haws, Taylor Marsden, (GEDCOM, 755 Manzanita Ave., Sunnyvale, CA 94086 (408) 747-0507; e-mail: [email protected]).
- [S289] Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles M o s l e y Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 26 May 2003., 255 (Reliability: 3).
- [S188] Complete Peerage vol III (Charles Edward Banks), Banks, Charles Edward, ((Boston:MA, NEHGS, 1889)), GS #942 D24c., 9:385; 601-5; 781 (Reliability: 3).
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