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Joan TALBOT

Joan TALBOT[1, 2]

Female Bef 1423 -

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  • Name Joan TALBOT  [3, 4, 5, 6, 7
    Born Bef 1423  Waterford, Waterford, Munster, Ireland Find all individuals with events at this location  [3, 5, 8
    Gender Female 
    FamilySearch ID GX95-SKX 
    _UID C07D18165988431B892F699C8C5FF04183D7 
    Died , Grafton, Worcester, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [3, 5
    • (SPS) Sine Prole Supersite (Died without surviving issue)
    Person ID I8061  Carney Wehofer 2024 Genealogy
    Last Modified 12 Dec 2022 

    Father Sir John TALBOT, Knight,   b. 1385, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 17 Jul 1453, Battle Of Castillon, Bordeaux, France (Killed) Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 68 years) 
    Mother Maude De NEVILLE, 6th Baroness Furnival,   b. 21 Dec 1392, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 31 May 1423, Priory, Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 30 years) 
    Married Bef 8 Mar 1406-1407  England Find all individuals with events at this location  [3, 5, 9
    Alt. Marriage Bef 12 Mar 1406-1407  [10, 11, 12, 13
    Alt. Marriage 
    • 1st wife
    Family ID F3852  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family James "The Just" 1St Baron De BERKELEY, Sir,   b. Abt 1394, Raglan, Monmouthshire, Wales Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Nov 1463, Berkeley Castle, Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 69 years) 
    Married 25 Jul 1457  <, Axholme, Lincoln, England> Find all individuals with events at this location  [3, 5, 8, 14, 15, 16
    _STAT Settlement 
    Last Modified 29 Aug 2016 
    Family ID F4054  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • Joan, daughter of John Talbot, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury, by Maud, daughter of Thomas Nevill, Lord Furnivale. Joan married (2) May 1474 Edmund Hungerford. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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      He [James de Berkeley] married, 4thly, (Settlment 25 July 1457) Joan, daughter of John (TALBOT), 1st EARL OF SHREWSBURY, by his 1st wife, Maud, elder daughter and heir of Thomas (NEVILL), LORD FURNIVAL, which Joan was consequently stepdaughter of Margaret, Countess of Shrewsbury abovenamed. He died at Berkeley Castle, Nov 1463, within 36 days of having (22 Oct.) executed a deed of reconciliation with the said Countess and was buried at Berkeley. His widow married, before 26 May 1474, Edmund Hungerford. [Complete Peerage II:132-3, XIV:87, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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      Joan; married c 25 July 1457, as his 3rd or 4th wife, 1st Lord (Baron) Berkeley; married 2nd 1487 Edmund Hungerford. [Burke's Peerage]

      Note: Burke's Peerage indicates that Joan is daughter of John Talbot by Margaret Beauchamp, his 2nd wife. This differs from MCS & CP, which have her mother Maud Neville, his 1st wife and names Margaret Beauchamp as her step-mother. Her birth date is close to Maud's death and Margaret's marriage date. Could be either one.

      Note: I have no idea (and neither does anyone else I have seen) who Edmund Hungerford is, that Joan supposedly married in 1474 or 1487.

  • Sources 
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    2. [S579] Jim Weber.

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    4. [S25] Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 28B-10 (Reliability: 3).

    5. [S90] Larson: Genealogical Research of Kirk Larson, Larson, Kirk, (Personal Research Works including Bethune & Hohenlohe Descendants, 1981-2001, Kirk Larson, Private Library).

    6. [S289] Burke's Peerage & Baronetage, 106th Edition, Charles M o s l e y Editor-in-Chief, 1999, 26 May 2003., 2605 (Reliability: 3).

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    8. [S63] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, II:132 (Reliability: 3).

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