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Carney & Wehofer Family
Genealogy Pages
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1413 - 1460 (46 years)
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Name |
John II TALBOT [3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8] |
Prefix |
Sir |
Suffix |
Earl Of Shrewsbury |
Born |
12 Dec 1413 |
Shrewsbury Abbey, Shropshire, England [3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8] |
Gender |
Male |
Death |
[9] |
Battle of Northhampton |
Earl of Shrewsbury |
, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England [6, 10, 11] |
FamilySearch ID |
L1SH-R74 |
LifeSketch |
[9] |
SIR JOHN TALBOT 2nd EARL OF SHREWBURY KNIGHTwas born 12 December 1413, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England, to General John Talbot Earl (1387-1453) and Baroness Maud Neville (1391-1423.) He married Lady Elizabeth Butler before 1445, Astley, Warwickshire, Eng |
_UID |
6EC16F83B72E4A1B9E0A68197DA708E6A64F |
Died |
10 Jul 1460 |
Battle Of Northampton, Northamptonshire, England [3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8] |
Buried |
Aft 10 Jul 1460 |
Worksop Priory, Nottinghamshire, England [4] |
Person ID |
I8068 |
Carney Wehofer 2024 Genealogy |
Last Modified |
21 Nov 2022 |
Father |
Sir John TALBOT, Knight, b. 1385, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England , d. 17 Jul 1453, Battle Of Castillon, Bordeaux, France (Killed) (Age 68 years) |
Mother |
Maude De NEVILLE, 6th Baroness Furnival, b. 21 Dec 1392, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England , d. 31 May 1423, Priory, Worksop, Nottinghamshire, England (Age 30 years) |
Married |
Bef 8 Mar 1406-1407 |
England [3, 6, 12] |
Alt. Marriage |
Bef 12 Mar 1406-1407 [13, 14, 15, 16] |
Alt. Marriage |
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Family ID |
F3852 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
Family |
Lady Elizabeth BUTLER, b. 21 Dec 1421, Kilkenny Castle, Kildare, Leinster, Ireland , d. 8 Sep 1473, Shrewsbury Abbey, Shropshire, England (Age 51 years) |
Married |
Bef Mar 1445 |
, Ormond, Leinster, Ireland [3, 6, 7, 17, 18] |
Children |
| 1. Anne TALBOT, b. Jan 1445, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England , d. 17 May 1494, Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England (Age ~ 49 years) |
| 2. John TALBOT, b. 12 Dec 1448, , Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England , d. 28 Jun 1473, , Coventry, Warwick, England (Age 24 years) |
| 3. James TALBOT, b. Abt 1450, , Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England , d. Yes, date unknown |
| 4. Sir Gilbert TALBOT, b. 1452, Grafton, Worcestershire, England , d. 19 Sep 1518, Northampton, Northamptonshire, England (Age 66 years) |
| 5. Christopher TALBOT, b. Abt 1454, , Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England , d. Yes, date unknown |
| 6. George TALBOT, b. Abt 1456, , Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England , d. Yes, date unknown |
| 7. Margaret TALBOT, b. Abt 1460, , Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England , d. Yes, date unknown |
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Last Modified |
21 Nov 2022 |
Family ID |
F4056 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
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Notes |
- Sir John Talbot, KG, b. 1413, d. 10 July 1460, 2nd Earl of Shrewsbury, Lord Treasurer of England; m. c 1444-48, Elizabeth Butler, b. 1420, d. 8 Sep 1473. [Ancestral Roots]
Note: Marriage date is off--doesn't agree with 7-34, which is on the opposite page, nor with CP.
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EARLDOM OF SHREWSBURY (V, 2)
JOHN (TALBOT), EARL OF SHREWSBURY, LORD TALBOT, &c., also EARL OF WATERFORD [IRL], 1st son and heir by 1st wife; born about 1413; K.B. 19 May 1426, at Leicester; served in France 1434 and 1442; on the Commission of the Peace, co. Derby, 23 November 1441; co. York (West Riding) 16 March 1441/ 2; Herts, 18 May 1443; Notts, 27 November 1443; King's Knight, before 27 May 1443; Chancellor of Ireland, 12 August 1446; Commissioner to treat for a loan to maintain the war, cos. Derby, Notts, Salop, 25 September 1449; Commissioner of Oyer and Terminer, Kent, 2 February 1449/50; P.C. before 21 November 1453; one of the Lords who undertook to keep the sea for 3 years, April 1454; Commissioner to raise money for the defence of Calais, 14 May 1455; summoned to Parliament 26 May 1455 to 26 May 1458; joint Farmer of the subsidy and alnage of cloths, co. and city of York and Kingston upon Hull, 5 August 1455. He was Treasurer of England 5 October 1456 till October 1458; nominated K.G. before 13 May, installed 14 May 1457; joint Keeper of the King's mews and falcons, 20 October 1457; Chief Butler for life, 6 May 1458; Chief justice of Chester, 24 February 1458/9; Steward of Wakefield 1459; Steward of Ludlow, 20 June 1460.
He married, before March 1444/5, Elizabeth, daughter of James (BUTLER), 4th EARL OF ORMOND [IRL], by his 1st wife, Joan, daughter of William (BEAUCHAMP), LORD ABERGAVENNY. He died 10 July 1460, being slain (with his brother Sir Christopher Talbot) at the battle of Northampton, fighting on the Lancastrian side, and was buried (with his mother) in Worksop Priory. M.I. His widow appears to have intended to take the veil after his death, but she had a Royal licence to marry whom she pleased without impeachment or hindrance, 6 February 1463/4. She died 8 and was buried 11 September 1473, in Shrewsbury Abbey. M.I. [Complete Peerage XI:704-5, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]
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- [S714] Hohelohe, Bethune Research, Kirk Larson, (Sept 23 2003).
- [S579] Jim Weber.
- [S112] Ancestral File? v4.19 (FamilySearch?), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, ((Created by FamilySearch Internet Genealogy Service, 50 East North Temple Street, Salt Lake City, UT 84150, April 1, 1999)).
- [S1160] FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 3 Jan 2022), entry for Lady Anne Talbot, person ID MN81-J29. (Reliability: 3).
- [S845] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999, 8-35, 7-34 (Reliability: 3).
- [S90] Larson: Genealogical Research of Kirk Larson, Larson, Kirk, (Personal Research Works including Bethune & Hohenlohe Descendants, 1981-2001, Kirk Larson, Private Library).
- [S25] Magna Charta Sureties 1215, Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Sheppard Jr, 5th Edition, 1999, 24-10 (Reliability: 3).
- [S63] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, XI:704-5 (Reliability: 3).
- [S1160] FamilySearch Family Tree (http://www.familysearch.org), The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, ((http://www.familysearch.org)), accessed 21 Nov 2022), entry for John II TALBOT, person ID L1SH-R74. (Reliability: 3).
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- [S63] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, XI:702 (Reliability: 3).
- [S63] Complete Peerage of England Scotland Ireland Great Britain and the United Kingdom, by G. E Cokayne, Sutton Publishing Ltd, 2000, V:591 (Reliability: 3).
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- [S845] Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, 7th Edition, by Frederick Lewis Weis, additions by Walter Lee Shippard Jr., 1999, 7-34 (Reliability: 3).
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