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Johann Lewis Sr. REDWINE[1, 2]

Male 1699 - Abt 1772  (72 years)

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  • Name Johann Lewis Sr. REDWINE 
    Born 14 Aug 1699  Rhineland, Pfalz, Freckenfeld, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Gender Male 
    _UID 89FA3225540641EF9F2975BCBE96393620D9 
    Died Abt May 1772  Granville Co. NC Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Person ID I9954  Carney Wehofer Feb 2024 Genealogy
    Last Modified 5 Feb 2012 

    Father Friedrich REDWINE,   b. 15 Jul 1679, Wrttemberg, Holzgerlingen Of Freckenfeld, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 23 Jan 1753, Rhineland, Pfalz, Freckenfeld, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 73 years) 
    Married Abt 1698  Germany, Wrttemberg, Holzgerlingen Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Family ID F4974  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Barbara BAECHLER,   b. 1 Nov 1710, Rhineland, Pfalz, Freckenfeld, Germany Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft Aug 1772, Granville Co. NC Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 61 years) 
    Married 15 Nov 1731  Germany, Rhineland, Pfalz, Freckenfeld Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Johann Michael Sr. REDWINE,   b. 22 Mar 1732, Germany, Rhineland, Pfalz, Freckenfeld Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 13 Dec 1802, NC, Montgomery Co. Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 70 years)
     2. Johannes REDWINE,   b. 1 May 1737, Germany, Rhineland, Pfalz, Freckenfeld Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Abt 1750  (Age 12 years)
     3. Johann Lewis Jr. REDWINE,   b. 4 Dec 1740, Germany, Rhineland, Pfalz, Freckenfeld Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 21 Feb 1809, NC, Rowan Co. Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 68 years)
     4. Anna Margaretha REDWINE,   b. 18 Feb 1745, Germany, Rhineland, Pfalz, Freckenfeld Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. Aft 1807, NC, Rowan Co. Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 62 years)
     5. Jacob REDWINE, Sr.,,   b. 12 Oct 1751, Northampton Co. PA ? Pittsburg Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 25 Feb 1840, Coweta Co. GA , Palmetto Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age 88 years)
     6. John Sr. REDWINE,   b. Abt 1756, NC, Granville Co. Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 19 Oct 1800, NC, Rowan Co. Find all individuals with events at this location  (Age ~ 44 years)
    Last Modified 29 Aug 2016 
    Family ID F4966  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • Apparently Ludwig Riedweil Sr. and Barbara Bchler had four children before they came to America: FHC film #247602
      1 Johann Michael Riedweil chr. GR 22 Mar 1733
      2 Johann Riedweil born GR 1 May 1737
      3 Johann Ludwig Riedweil born GR 4 Dec 1740
      4 Anna Margretha Riedweil born GR 18 Feb 1745
      5 Jacob was born in America Oct. 1751
      6 John was born in America abt 1756
      The John B. 1756 is sometimes confused with the above metioned Johann B. 1737. Our best guess is that Johnannes B. 1737 either stayed in Germany or died before or during the trip to America.
      the christening record of Maria Dorothea Grimm, daughter of Jacob and Magdalena Grimm in May 1729, it lists Johann Ludwig Riedweyl as an apprentice weaver, single, and son of Friedrich Riedweyl (Doc. #6). Also in christening record of his second child Johannes, Ludwig Sr. is listed as a yarn weaver, Doc.# 3 but elsewhere, as just a weaver.
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      -----Original Message-----
      From: Dr. Georg Fischer
      To: Tex Dick
      Date: Wednesday, July 01, 1998 7:45 AM
      Subject: Record 8-Dec-1740
      Dear Tex,
      the first record is on 2 pages.
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      [End of the first page for 1740:]
      December Den 8. December wurde Johann Ludwig Riedweilens, Brger und [Mobeus??] alhier und seines Eheweibs Barbara, Shnlein welches den 4. eiusdiem geboren, getauft und [beginning of next page]
      1740 102 December [faint overwriting in this place: " 12 ?", maybe "18"] Johann Ludwig genannt, Taufzeugen waren Johann Ludwig [A???] weyl: Theolbaldt [A???], gewesen Brger alhier [Hinterlosser??] ehel. Sohn, und Anna Apolonia, Friedrich Riedweilens Brgers alhier ehel: Tochter, beyde noch ledigen Wandels, wir
      attestiren
      [signatures:]
      Ludwig ridweil Christian Melchior
      als Vatter Fischer Pfrr.[= pastor]
      [??] Ludwig A.
      al gevatter
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      On Dec. 8th was J.L. Riedweil's ["ens" is possessive grammar form], citizen and ?? here and his wife's Barbara little son, which was born 4th the same month [latin] baptized and Johann Ludwig named, bapt. witnesses were J.L. [some name] [??] Theobaldt [same name] who was citizen here [name] marriage son, and Anna Apolonia, Friedrich Riedweil's citizen here marriage daughter, both still unmarried, we certify [signatures]
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      I cannot translate "Ehel:" properly without my dictionary,
      it means that they were born by a marriaed couple.
      The faint cross over the record would indicate that somebody else noted later that the child died (soon?), that occurs rather often, together with a year. But I'm not sure about this, and the write put a question mark also.
      The name RIEDWEIL is rather clear, except that in the
      signature it's RIDWEIL.
      My [Dr. Fisher] picture is:
      Friedrich = grandfather of the newborn son
      Johann Ludwig = father, Barbara = mother
      Johann Ludwig = son, born 4-Dec-1740, bapt. 8-Dec (this record)
      Anna Apolonia = bapt. witness, aunt of the newborn
      So long - Georg
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      Dr. Georg Fischer , Mobil 0172 9407118
      Rotteckring 19 Tel. +49 7644 913016, Fax 913018
      D-79341 Kenzingen, Germany 48d11m32s North, 7d46m46s East
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      1749 - In the summer of 1749, a man by the name of Landenberger of Ebingen, who made frequent trips between Germany and America, brought back favorable letters from Hans Balthass Bitzer and Matthaeus Mautte. According to a report in 1749 by Mayor Venninger of Lauffen, preserved at Ludwigsburg, the letters are said to have "made such an impression among different families, that they even now appear to be intent on leaving next Spring." This resulted in the large Lauffen emigration of 1750, including some on the ship "Osgood."
      1750 - Germany, Pfalz, Bayern, Immigrant's surname: READWILE Immigrant's given name(s): Johann Ludwig
      Ship name: Osgood U.S. arrival date: 29 SEP 1750
      Port: Philadelphia, PA Place of origin: Res: Freckenfeld, Pfalz, Bayern, Germany late of Cowes Source: Thirty Thousand Names of Immigrants, by I. Daniel Rupp
      1750 - PA, Philadelphia 29 Sept., The ship 'Osgood' arrived in Philadelphia from Rotterdam, last from Cowes; William Wilkie, Captain, listed 480 [ or 180 "not sure"] passengers. Ludwig Readwile and Joh. Michael Rietweill were among those passengers.
      Ludwig RIETHWEIL and his family most likely were taken to the court house where he then made his mark on the Oath of Allegiance and qualified, as well as his son Michael who was able to sign his name. Since Michael was over the age of 16, he had to qualify. The other children were under the age of 16, so were not required to qualify. Michael signed his name Rietweill to the document. Ludwig did not sign the document, but made his mark "LRW" and the spelling of the surname as "Readwile" is most likely a phonetic one by the court clerk.
      1760 - 15 Aug 1760 Lodwick REDWINE of Granville County, North Carolina, for fifty pounds proclamation money, purchased from William Meadows of Orange County, 233 acres located eastward of Michael Peeler's and on the branches of Shillons (now Shelton's) Creek. The land adjoined Slaughter and Matheas. Lodwick owned this land when he died as it is included in the inventory of his estate. Source: Granville Co NC Deed Book H, p 364 (per Martha Redwine)
      1764 - Lodowick Redwine appeared on the Granville Co NC tax list. This is the first tax list he has been located in. He paid one poll. The list was made by Col. Harris.
      1766 - Lodwick Redwine was listed on the tax list of Granville Co North Carolina. The list was made by John Thomas and the number of polls paid has been blurred and not readable.
      1767 - Lodwick Redwine was on the tax list of Granville Co NC when he paid one poll.
      1767 - NC Granville Co. deed book H (1765-1826) page, 364 Lodwick Redwine of Granville Co. records land deed August 15, 1767 from William Medows of Orange Co. NC.
      1768 - Lodwick Redwine was on the tax list of Granville Co NC as shown in tithables taken by Robert Harris. He paid two polls which included son Jacob Redwine shown. The law at the time in North Carolina set the white male poll at ages 16 and upward. Jacob would have reached age 16 in October 1767.
      1769 - Lodwick Reetwile appeared on the Granville Co NC tax list and paid two polls. Michael Redwine appeared same list. 1769 - NC, Granville Co., tax list Lodowick Redwine 2 whites.
      1770 - Lodwick Redwine was on the Granville Co NC tax list, paying two polls.
      1771 - Ludwick Redwine appeared on the Granville Co NC tax list and paid three polls. This would indicate the youngest son John had reached the age of 16 years.
      1772 - 22 Feb On page, 329 Granville County Unregistered Wills Lewis RIETHWEIL (signed in German Ludwig) wrote his will in Granville County naming sons Lewis, Michael, Jacob, John, and daughter Margaret Peeler, wife of Michael Peeler. The youngest son, John, was underage at that time. His wish was that son John was to serve his brother Jacob but for one year, then to be declared free. as of 1785 The original will, is in the care of the Granville County clerk of the Superior Court. The Will was filed in 1772.

      Will Of LUDWIG RIETHWEIL / REDWINE
      1772 - 22 Feb On page, 329 Granville County Unregistered Wills Lewis RIETHWEIL (signed in German Ludwig) wrote his will in Granville County naming sons Lewis, Michael, Jacob, John, and daughter Margaret Peeler, wife of Michael Peeler. The youngest son, John, was underage at that time. His wish was that son John was to serve his brother Jacob but for one year, then to be declared free. as of 1785 The original will, is in the care of the Granville County clerk of the Superior Court. The Will was filed in 1772
      The Will of Ludwig Riethweil ( Lewis Redwine Sr. ) In the name of God amen;
      I, Lewis Riethweil of Granville Co. in the Province of North Carlonia, being weak in body but sound in mind and memory ( thanks be to God) do make and ordain this my last will and testament in manner and form following, VIZ;
      Imprimis, I lend to my loving wife, Barbara Riethweil during the term of her natural life or widowhood the use of all my stock and household furniture on the plantation wereon I now live.
      Item: I give to my son Lewis Riethweil one Shilling Sterling.
      Item: I give to my son Michael Riethweil one Shilling Sterling.
      Item: I give to my two sons Jacob and John Riethweil to them and their heirs and assigns forever my tract of two hundred and fifty acres of land wereon I now live and if at any time after my decease the said tract of land should be sold the purchase money thereof to be equally divided between my two sons Jacob and John Rietheweil.
      Item: As my above youngest son John Riethweil is at the present time underage my will and desire is that in the case of my speddy death the said my son John Riethweil is to serve his brother Jacob Reithweil but one year and then be declared free.
      Item: My will and desire is that after the decease of my above loving wife Barbara Riethwiel all my stock and household furniture be equally divided between my several children to wit: my son Michael Riethweil, Jacob and John Riethwiel, and my daughter Margaret Peeler.
      Lastly, I do appoint my son in law Michael Peeler and Anthony Peeler to be Executors of this my last will and Testament revoking and disannulling and making void all other wills heretofore by me made and in order that this be my last will and testament I have hereunto set my hand and seal this Twenty Second day of February 1772.
      Signed Sealed and delivered and ordered to be his last will and Testament in the presence of us.
      Signed..( his signature ).. Ludwig Riethwiel
      Michael Peeler
      Jacob Hoffman < Jurat
      Anthony Peeler Jurat
      Proved August Court 1772
      NOTE: Clerk used the spelling of "Lewis Riethwield" an apparently the person signing was "Ludwig Riethweil.
      End..

      1772 - NC, Aug The inventory of Lodwick Redwine was recorded into Granville County Court in August 1772 which means he died between 22 Feb 1772 and Aug 1772. The inventory included the 233 acres of land he purchased in 1760. In this document, his name was shown with three different spellings, Lodwick Redwine; Lewis Riethweil; & Lodowick Redwine.
      Obviously, the son named John who was underage in 1772 was not the same Johannes who was baptized 5 May 1737. In Mittelberger's diary, he said there were no less than 32 that died on the 'Osgood.' Freckenfeld belongs in the federal German state of Rheinland-Pfalz. Freckenfeld belongs to Kreis Germersheim, RegBez Rheinhessen-Pfalz, Land Rheinland-Pfalz The AGS is 07334005. The ZIP code is 76872
      Following are some variations found while searching the name Redwine: Raedwine, Radewynde, Radewint, Radwin, Ritwell, Redewinus, Readwile, Rietweill, Redewinus, Redewyne, Redwin, Redwine, Redwile, Reedwine, Reetwhile, Reichwein, Reitweild, Reitweil, Rietwell, Ritwell, Riethweil. Source : "Ancestors and Descendants of John and Sarah and other Redwines," by Martha Redwine Nelson.
      As the Palatine population grew in England, the Crown ordered a census made of these people. This inventory is preserved in the British Museum Library, London, England. It is from this inventory taken at Walworth, 27th of May, 1709, that we find Redwines. Lists of Germans from the Palatinate Who Came to England in 1709 are: Frederick Ritweil, age 32, wife, son age 2, Lutheran; and Jacob Ritweil, age 22, single, Lutheran. On Jan. 1710, a ship of Palatines sailed to America, arriving in Va. 13 weeks later. The Palatines were shipped across the Albermarle Sound to the Neuse River and placed on the south side of a point of land along the Trent River. There were also other ships coming to the Colonies during this great migration period of 1710- 1712, however, no document was found of Jacob and/or Frederick sailing to America. Source : "Ancestors and Descendants of John and Sarah and other Redwines," by Martha Redwine Nelson.
      Other passengers on the ship "Osgood" included the following: From Lauffen were Ludwig Bitzer, Rudolph Christe, Jacob Koenig, Johann Matthias Spohn, Christian Stotz, Hans Balthass Stotz, Ludwig Stotz, and Johannes Wolfer. Hans Jerg Gutekunst was from Nagold. There was also a passenger by the name of Georg Becker who might possibly have been a relative of Barbara, wife of Johann Ludwig RIETHWEIL. There was a man named Johannes Seyl, but it is not known if this name might have been Seyler. If so, there might be a relationship to Peter Seyler whose son was baptized in 1755. Johann Michael Riethweil and his wife Christina were sponsors. Source 1: "Pennsylvania German Immigrants, 1709 - 1786"
      "Probably most of you on the REDWINE list already have viewed the original Granville Co NC records, but it is interesting to see the different spellings in the same documents. I have some copies of original records of Granville Co NC which show the various spellings of the name.
      A list of Taxables taken for 1766:
      Lodwick REDWINE
      1767 tax list:
      Lodwick REDWINE
      List of Tithables Taken by Robt Harris for 1768:
      Lodwick REDWINE & Son Jacob

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      I thought perhaps this might help to answer any doubts one might have. Seeing different spellings in the original document (and sometimes even different on the same page) should erase any doubt that Ludwig appears as Ludwig/Lodwick/Lodowick/Lewis and RIETHWEIL/REDWINE in the Granville Co NC records." "Imogene Bennett" Springfield, MO

  • Sources 
    1. [S466] David S. Payne, David S. Payne [email protected].

    2. [SAuth] Jim Carney, compiled by James H Carney [(E-ADDRESS), & MAILING ADDRESS FOR PRIVATE USE], Buderim, Queensland 4556 AUSTRALIA.