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Ida De FOREZ

Ida De FOREZ

Female Abt 1055 - 1085  (~ 30 years)

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Ida De FOREZIda De FOREZ was born about 1049-1055 in Le Forez, France; died in 1085 in France.

    Other Events:

    • AFN: 9FPM-JQ
    • FamilySearch ID: LQ5J-R35
    • _UID: 421F80F482E240CFB1B248AD77F11C466A8E

    Notes:

    Sources: A. Roots 107; RC 232, 317; AF; Kraentzler 1176.
    RC: Heiress of the countship la Forez. Second wife of Renaud II.
    Roots: Ida, daughter of Artald V, Count of Forez.
    K: Ida-Raimonde de Forez.

    Family/Spouse: Renaud II De NEVERS, Count. Renaud (son of William I De NEVERS, Count Of Nevers and Ermengarde De TONNERRE) was born about 1046 in Of Nevers, Nievre, France, France; died on 5 Aug 1089. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Ermengarde De NEVERS  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1073 in Nevers, Nievre, France; died in 1102 in Courtenay, Loiret, Centre-Val de Loire, France; was buried in Okehampton, Devon, England.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Ermengarde De NEVERSErmengarde De NEVERS Descendancy chart to this point (1.Ida1) was born about 1073 in Nevers, Nievre, France; died in 1102 in Courtenay, Loiret, Centre-Val de Loire, France; was buried in Okehampton, Devon, England.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: 9WP5-WRF
    • Name: Ermengarde DE NEVERS
    • _UID: 22856E74CF324713A9CC4EF226BF4C24EE19

    Notes:

    Sources: RC 144, 232; A. Roots, 107; Kraentzler 1063, 1176; AF.
    K: Ermengarde de Nevers and Auxerre.
    RC: Ermengarde de Nevers, of Nevers, Nievre, France. Born about 1073,died
    about 1095. Married Miles (Milo) de Courtney.
    Roots: Ermengarde de Nevers, married about 1095 Milo, Sire ofCourtenay.
    Born about 1075 or before, died before 1127.

    Ermengarde married Milo De COURTENAY, Sire, Courtenay in 1095 in Nevers, Ni?vre, Burgundy, France. Milo (son of Joscelin DE COURTENAY and Elisabeth DE MONTLHERY) was born about 1069 in Courtenay, Loriet, France; died in 1127 in France; was buried in Abbey Of, Fountain Jean, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 3. Josceline De COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1096 in Courtenay, Loriet, France; and died.
    2. 4. Guillaume De COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1098 in Courtenay, Loriet, France; died in 1147.
    3. 5. Renaud (Reginald) Seigneur De COURTENAY, Sire  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1100 in Of, Courtenay, Loiret, France; died in 1161 in Courtenay, Loriet, France.


Generation: 3

  1. 3.  Josceline De COURTENAYJosceline De COURTENAY Descendancy chart to this point (2.Ermengarde2, 1.Ida1) was born about 1096 in Courtenay, Loriet, France; and died.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: GZLQ-2KL
    • _UID: 7215361D2E454313919A05A312E532B35249

    Notes:

    Ancestral File Number: 8Q7N-Q2


  2. 4.  Guillaume De COURTENAYGuillaume De COURTENAY Descendancy chart to this point (2.Ermengarde2, 1.Ida1) was born about 1098 in Courtenay, Loriet, France; died in 1147.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: G7RP-5X8
    • _UID: FC33959146CF499B81223855A39DB433A5A7

    Notes:

    Ancestral File Number: 8Q7N-R7


  3. 5.  Renaud (Reginald) Seigneur De COURTENAY, SireRenaud (Reginald) Seigneur De COURTENAY, Sire Descendancy chart to this point (2.Ermengarde2, 1.Ida1) was born about 1100 in Of, Courtenay, Loiret, France; died in 1161 in Courtenay, Loriet, France.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: 9S8R-DJY
    • _UID: 8F2829E2A2B549D8BC48041CB5085C7DF46E

    Notes:

    Sources: RC 144; AF; Kraentzler 1063; A. Roots 107.
    RC: Renaud de Courtenay, Sire de Courtenay. Exiled in 1150. Lost hislands in
    France in 1161, but was of Sutton, Berkshire, in 1161.
    Roots: Renaud de Courtenay, Sire de Courtenay, died 1161. Says RC iswrong
    in putting this man in Berkshire and has him mixed up with anotherRenaud. See
    Roots 107 and 138, 7th edition. AF: Died 1189/90.

    Family/Spouse: Maud. Maud was born about 1137; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Renaud married Hawise (Or Hedwig) De DU DON JON about 1116. Hawise (daughter of Frederic De DONJON and Mrs-Frederic De DONJON) was born about 1100 in Courtenay, Loriet, France; died after 1155. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 6. Renaud Seigneur DE COURTENAY, Of Sutton  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1125 in Courtenay, Montargis, Loiret, Centre-Val de Loire, France; died on 27 Sep 1194 in Okehampton, Devon, England; was buried in 1194 in Forde Abbey, Thorncombe, Dorset, England.
    2. 7. Isabelle (Elizabeth) DE COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1148 in Courtenay, Galinois, France; died after 14 Sep 1205 in France.


Generation: 4

  1. 6.  Renaud Seigneur DE COURTENAY, Of SuttonRenaud Seigneur DE COURTENAY, Of Sutton Descendancy chart to this point (5.Renaud3, 2.Ermengarde2, 1.Ida1) was born in 1125 in Courtenay, Montargis, Loiret, Centre-Val de Loire, France; died on 27 Sep 1194 in Okehampton, Devon, England; was buried in 1194 in Forde Abbey, Thorncombe, Dorset, England.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: 9CXS-J8J
    • Alt. Buried: Aft 1194, Abbey, Ford, Devonshire, England; Alt. Buried

    Notes:

    Renaud de Courtenay, b. c 1125, d. Oct - Dec 1190; witness in 1150 at Rouen, Normandy of charter of Henry, Duke of Normandy (later Henry II of England); in 1160 received grant of the Manor of Sutton, Berkshire from the king; from that date in constant attendance on the king, perhaps a royal secretary; in 1171 accompanied the king in his campaign in Ireland; appears holding land in Devonshire for the first time 1175-1176; in the king's train in his travels in England and France; m. (1) an unidentified woman, mother of Son Reginald; m. (2) Maud, daughter of Robert Fitz Edith (illegitimate son of King Henry I of England, by Edith, daughter of Forn), by Maud (d'Avranches) de Courcy, widow of William de Courcy. [Ancestral Roots]

    Note: I have (unsourced) Hawise Deincourt as the unidentified woman who was his 1st wife.

    Note: Could his holding land in Devon finally in 1175-1176 possibly relate to his late (1172) marriage to Maud Fitz Edith or to the son Reginald's marriage to Hawise de Courcy, Heiress of Okehampton?

    Ancestral File Number: 9FPM-T9

    Renaud married Lady Hawise DE COURCY about 1154. Hawise (daughter of William DE COURCY and Matilda AVRANCHES, Heiress Of Okehampton) was born in 1135 in Courtenay, Departement du Loiret, Centre, France; died on 31 Jul 1219; was buried after 31 Jul 1219 in Ford Abbey, Devonshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 8. Reginald DE COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point and died.
    2. 9. Sir Robert DE COURTENEY, Baron of Oakhampton  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1183 in Okehampton Castle, Okehampton, Devon, England; died on 26 Jul 1242 in Iwerne, Dorset, England; was buried in 1242 in Ford Abbey, Devon, England.
    3. 10. Henry DE COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point and died.
    4. 11. Egelina DE COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1155 in Colston, Nottinghamshire, England; and died.

    Renaud married in 1st Wife. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Renaud married Maud FITZEDITH, Dame Du Sap after 1172 in 2ND Wife, No Issue. Maud (daughter of Robert FITZROY, 1st Earl of Gloucester and Matilda AVRANCHES, Heiress Of Okehampton) was born about 1163 in Du Sap, Normandy, France; died in 1224. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 7.  Isabelle (Elizabeth) DE COURTENAYIsabelle (Elizabeth) DE COURTENAY Descendancy chart to this point (5.Renaud3, 2.Ermengarde2, 1.Ida1) was born about 1148 in Courtenay, Galinois, France; died after 14 Sep 1205 in France.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: LBVL-MQ9
    • _UID: 3AC744478D354022A1276A40BA3D3FC21AE5

    Notes:

    Ancestral File Number: 8XJ1-CV

    Isabelle married Pierre CAPET, King Of France in 1150 in England. Pierre (son of Louis "The Fat" VI CAPET, King Of France and Alix (Adbelahide) Countess Of SAVOY, of Maurienne) was born on 11 Sep 1126 in Reims, Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France; died in 1183 in Saint-Jean-d'Acre, Terre-Sainte, Palestine, Isra?l; was buried on 10 Apr 1183. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 12. Pierre II De COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1155 in Of, Courtenay, Galinois, France; died after Jun 1219 in Epirus, , Turkey.
    2. 13. Daughter De COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1158 in , Courtenay, Galinois, France; and died.
    3. 14. Alice Alix DE COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 18 Sep 1160 in Bourgogne, Marne, Champagne-Ardenne, France; died on 12 Feb 1216 in Angoul?me, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France; was buried after 12 Feb 1216 in Angoul?me, Charente, Poitou-Charentes, France.
    4. 15. Eustachia De COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1162 in Of, Courtenay, Galinois, France; died after 1235.
    5. 16. Clementia De COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1164 in Of, Courtenay, Galinois, France; and died.
    6. 17. Robert De COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1166 in Of, Courtenay, Galinois, France; died in 1239 in , Holy Land.
    7. 18. Constance De COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1168 in Of, Courtenay, Galinois, France; died after 1231.
    8. 19. Guillaume De COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1170 in Of, Courtenay, Galinois, France; died in 1233-1247.
    9. 20. Isabelle De COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1194 in Chcateau DE Courtenay, Galinois, France; and died.