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Carney & Wehofer Family
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Abt 920 - Yes, date unknown
Generation: 1
Generation: 2
2. | Gwaithfoed "Fawr" Ap CLODIEN, Of Powys (1.Morfydd1) was born about 964 in Powys (Montgomeryshire), Cymru (Wales); died in 1057. Other Events:
- Name: Fawr
- _UID: 95DE331E741941C9A6C11ADD813998F2FDF5
- Alt. Birth: Abt 924; Alt. Birth
Notes:
Note: From the notes below there appears to be a difference of opinion about when Gwaithfoed lived. Harold died 1066 (of course), which fits with Gwaithfoed's death date of 1057. But Edgar lived from 943 to 975, so if he was contemporary with both, he lived a long and prosperous life, marrying both early and very late in life, which is how I portray him.
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All of the following information came from Jane Williams Flank, World Connect db=jwflank, rootsweb.com:
Gwaethfoed, Lord of Cardigan and Gwynfai (d 1057), lived in the time of Harold the Saxon; m. Morfydd, dau. of Ivor (or Ynyr), King of Gwent, and one of his heirs. [Annals and Antiquities of Wales II:208]
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Gwaethvoed was contemporary with Edgar, king of Saxons, and was, in conformity with the vassalage of those periods, summoned, with other Welsh chieftains, by Edgar, to meet him at Chester, to row him, in his royal barge, on the river Dee, in proof of his fealty. Gwaethvoed, in answer to his summons, said he could not row, and that he would not, if he could, except it were to save a person's life, whether king or vassal. Edgar sent a second and very imperious message, which Gwaethvoed did not seem at all to notice, until the messenger begged to know what reply he should deliver to the king; when Gwaethevoed, in the Welsh language, answered thus: 'Say to him, fear him who fears not death.: This stern reply, discovering at once to Edgar the fearless unbending character he had to deal with, he prudently changed his autocratic decree into a desire of mutual friendship, and going to Gwaethvoed, gave the chief his hand in pledge of his sincerity. Gwaethvoed married Morfydd, one of the daughters and co-heirs of Ivor, king or lord of Gwent. [Burke's Commoners III:387]
Sources:
Annals and Antiquities of the Counties and County Families of Wales; Dr Thomas Nicholas {1875}, p. II:208.
Ancestors of Evelyn Wood Keeler; Josephine C Frost {1939}, p. 425
Note: Cites as references for Welsh lineages: Royal Families of England, Scotland, Wales: Volume I & 2; Genealogical Tables of the Sovereigns of the World; Maunder's Biographical Treasures; Universial Biography; etc.
The Mathew Mathes Family in America, I C VanDeventer {1929}, Page: 13.
History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland, John Burke {1834-1838}, III:387
Family/Spouse: Unknown First WIFE. Unknown was born about 964 in Wales, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Gwaithfoed married Morfudd Verch YNYR in 2ND Wife ?. Morfudd was born about 990 in Gwent, Monmouthshire, Wales; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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Generation: 3
4. | Gwilym Ap GWAITHFOED, Lord Of Gwynfai (2.Gwaithfoed2, 1.Morfydd1) was born about 1010 in Gwynfai, Cardiganshire, Wales; and died. Other Events:
- _UID: 3CD3A23356134AB0BB114BC7E8FD435DAAEB
Notes:
Note: Jane Williams Flank, based on her sources, does not have this generation, although the birth dates would indicate that there is a missing generation (or two or three). This note came from descendant "Ieuan ap Gruffudd "Gethyn", b. 1348, which indicated he descended from Gwilym, son of Gwaithfoed, not Cedryck, as Jane Williams Flank has it. Therefore I am inserting a much needed extra generation (I think) into her ancestry.
MATHEW OF LLANDAFF, RADIR, &c.
This very ancient and long-continuing family derived from Gwilym, son of Gwaefthfoed, Lord of Cardigan, by Morfydd, dau. of Ynyr, King of Gwent, through Gruffydd Gethin, ranked as tenth from Gwaethfoed, and Ivan ap Gruffyd Gethin. [Annals and Antiquities of Wales II:578]
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Generation: 4
5. | Ednywain "Bendew" I Ap NEINIAD (3.Neiniad3, 2.Gwaithfoed2, 1.Morfydd1) was born about 1020 in Flintshire, Wales; died after 1079. Other Events:
- Name: Bendew
- _UID: 2D6A4D8351B1429CA53BA7A97496DCEA478A
Family/Spouse: Gwerful Verch LLUDDICA. Gwerful (daughter of Lluddica Ap TEWDWR, Lord Of Chirk and Angharad Verch IAGO) was born about 980 in Of Llys Y Coed, Cilcain, Flintshire, Wales; died after 1070. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 6. Bledrus Ap EDNYWAIN
was born about 1040 in Of, Flintshire, Wales; and died.
- 7. Morwyl Verch EDNYWAIN
was born about 1044 in Tegeingl (Tegaingl), Flintshire, Cymru (Wales); and died.
- 8. Ceinfryd Verch EDNYWAIN
was born about 1044 in Of, Flintshire, Wales; and died.
- 9. Robert Ap EDNYWAIN
was born about 1046 in Of, Flintshire, Wales; and died.
- 10. Gruffudd Ap EDNYWAIN
was born about 1048 in Of, Flintshire, Wales; and died.
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