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Elizabeth De SEGRAVE

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  1. 1.  Elizabeth De SEGRAVEElizabeth De SEGRAVE was born on 25 Oct 1338 in Croxton, Leicestershire, England; died before 1368 in Leicestershire, England.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: LTDJ-X1W
    • Name: Elizabeth DE MOWBRAY
    • _UID: 502A2D32AD974CE788CC55EEC21FE0C76F8A
    • TitleOfNobility: 1338, Segrave, Leicestershire, England; 5th Baroness Segrave

    Notes:

    Elizabeth, Lady Segrave, b. 25 Oct 1338, dead 1368, daughter of John, Lord Segrave, by Margaret, daughter of Thomas de Brotherton, Earl of Norfolk, son of Edward I. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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    Elizabeth de Segrave, who m. John de Mowbray, 4th Baron Mowbray (slain near Constantinople on his way to the Holy Land in 1368), and had issue, John, and Thomas. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 485, Segrave, Barons Segrave of Barton Segrave]

    ELIZABETH de Segrave (Croxton Abbey 25 Oct 1338-before 1368). A manuscript record of the Mowbray family states that "Johannes filius [Johannis]" married "filiam et h?redem domini de Segrave?Elizabetha"[1073]. m (1349) JOHN Mowbray, son of JOHN Mowbray Lord Mowbray & his wife Joan of Lancaster (Epworth 25 Jun 1340-killed in battle [Palestine] 1368). He succeeded his father as Lord Mowbray. [Medieval Lands.]

    Elizabeth married John de MOWBRAY about 1349. John (son of John 3Rd Baron De MOWBRAY, Of Thirsk, Sir and Joan PLANTAGENET) was born on 25 Jun 1340 in Epworth, Isle Of Axholme, Lincolnshire, England; died on 17 Jun 1368 in Thrace, Byzantium, Turkey. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Margaret De MOWBRAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1362 in Epworth, Isle Of Axholme, Lincolnshire, England; died before 1401.
    2. 3. Eleanor De MOWBRAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born before 25 Mar 1364 in Epworth, Isle Of Axholme, Lincolnshire, England; died after 1399.
    3. 4. Thomas De MOWBRAY, Kg, 1St Duke Of Norfolk  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 22 Mar 1366 in Epworth, Lincolnshire, England; died on 22 Sep 1399 in Venice, Italy (Died Of Plague); was buried in St. George Abbey, Venice, Italy.
    4. 5. Joan (Jane) De MOWBRAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1368 in Epworth, Isle Of Axholme, Lincolnshire, England; died after 30 Nov 1402.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Margaret De MOWBRAYMargaret De MOWBRAY Descendancy chart to this point (1.Elizabeth1) was born about 1362 in Epworth, Isle Of Axholme, Lincolnshire, England; died before 1401.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: G84P-DR3
    • _UID: 0DD7642DD81747BEB359BADCC7FDD40CAF31

    Notes:

    From soc.genealogy.medieval:

    Dear Newsgroup ~

    The immigrants Robert Abell, Richard More of the Mayflower and Rev. John Oxenbridge are lineal descendants of Reginald Lucy, died 1437, of Dallington, co. Northampton, and his wife, Margaret. Until now, Margaret Lucy's identity and parentage have been unknown. However, recently I came across this couple's marriage license in an obscure episcopal register:

    "Kal. Jul. [1 July] 1369. At Heywod. To Reginald de Lucy, son of Sir Geoffrey de Lucy, and Margaret, daughter of Sir John de Moubrey, to be married in the chapel within Bretteby [Bretby] Castle [co. Derby]" [Reference: Lichfield Episcopal Registers, Register of [Bishop] Robert de Stretton, published in William Salt Archaeological Society, n.s., 8 (1905): 47].

    As indicated by the license quoted above, the bride's name was Margaret Mowbray, daughter of Sir John de Mowbray. Due to the name, chronology and place of marriage, Margaret Mowbray can be readily identified as a hitherto unknown daughter of Sir John de Mowbray, 4th Lord Mowbray, by his wife, Elizabeth, daughter and heiress of John de Segrave, 4th Lord Segrave, of Bretby Castle, co. Derby.

    In this case, the place of marriage is significant as Bretby Castle was one of the holdings of the Segrave family and fell to Mowbray family on the marriage of Elizabeth Segrave to John de Mowbray, 4th Lord Mowbray. This was presumably one of the Segrave family's principal residences, as Elizabeth's father, John de Segrave, prepared his will in 1352 at Bretby [Reference: Complete Peerage, 11 (1949): 609]. I assume this license was missed by Lucy and Mowbray researchers as the Lucy family was seated principally at Northampton, whereas the Mowbray family's chief holdings were in cos. Lincoln and York. One would not expect to look in Derbyshire for a marriage license for this couple.

    The newly discovered Margaret Mowbray gives the immigrants, Robert Abell, Richard More and John Oxenbridge an all new descent from King Edward I plus many other interesting connections. For newsgroup interest, I have prepared the descent down to Robert Abell. For fuller particulars of the Lucy and allied families, please see the forthcoming 3rd edition of Plantagenet Ancestry.

    Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

    Margaret married Reynold (Reginald) LUCY, Of Dallington, Sir on 1 Jul 1369 in Bretby Castle, Derbyshire, England. Reynold (son of Geoffrey DE LUCY and Katherine GREY) was born before 1360 in Cublington, Buckinghamshire, England; died on 9 Nov 1437 in Dallington, Northamptonshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 6. Walter LUCY, Of Newington & Richards Castle, Sir  Descendancy chart to this point was born before 1379 in Wapenham, Northamptonshire, England; died on 4 Oct 1444 in Richard's Castle, Ludlow, Herefordshire, England.

  2. 3.  Eleanor De MOWBRAYEleanor De MOWBRAY Descendancy chart to this point (1.Elizabeth1) was born before 25 Mar 1364 in Epworth, Isle Of Axholme, Lincolnshire, England; died after 1399.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: LB31-5XF
    • _UID: D0FD3356264F4A6393985625A24D9087241A

    Notes:

    Eleanor, sister of John (DE MOWBRAY), EARL OF NOTTINGHAM, and of Thomas (DE MOWBRAY), DUKE OF NORFOLK and EARL MARSHAL, 1st daughter of John, 4th LORD MOWBRAY, by Elizabeth, suo jure (according to modern doctrine) BARONESS SEGRAVE, daughter and heir of John (DE SEGRAVE), 4th LORD SEGRAVE. She, who was born shortly before 25 March 1364, may have been living in 1399. [Complete Peerage]

    Eleanor married John 5Th Baron De WELLES, Sir Knight before May 1386 in 1st Wife?. John was born on 20 Apr 1352 in Conisholme, Lincolnshire, England; died on 24 Aug 1421. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 7. Eudo (Ives Or Eon) WELLES, Sir  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1387 in Well, Lincolnshire, England; died before 1421.

  3. 4.  Thomas De MOWBRAY, Kg, 1St Duke Of NorfolkThomas De MOWBRAY, Kg, 1St Duke Of Norfolk Descendancy chart to this point (1.Elizabeth1) was born on 22 Mar 1366 in Epworth, Lincolnshire, England; died on 22 Sep 1399 in Venice, Italy (Died Of Plague); was buried in St. George Abbey, Venice, Italy.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: GJJ5-THR
    • Government: Duke of Norfolk
    • Name: Robert GOUSHILL
    • _UID: ABE7E75351B644CF928F1A59CE26E5C013A5
    • TitleOfNobility: 1383; Barons Mowbray & Segrave
    • Alt. Burial: Sep 1399, Saint George Abbey, Venice, Provincia Di Venezia, Veneto, Italy

    Notes:

    Sir Thomas de Mowbray, KG, b. 22 Mar 1365/6, d. Venice, 22 Sep 1399, Lord Mowbray, Segrave, and Stourton, Earl of Nottingham 1383, Earl Marshal of England 1384, Duke of Norfolk 1397; m. (1) Elizabeth, Baroness Strange of Blackmere, dsp 1383; m. (2) July 1384, Elizabeth Fitz Alan. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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    Thomas de Mowbray [succeeded elder brother John, died unmarried just prior to 12 Feb 1382/3], 6th Lord (Baron) Mowbray and 7th Lord (Baron) Segrave, also 1st Duke of Norfolk, so created 29 Sep 1397, as also earlier 12 Feb 1382/3 Earl of Nottingham and 12 Jan 1385/6 Earl Marshal; in addition 3rd Earl of Norfolk (as which succeeded his grandmother 24 March 1398/9), KG (c1383); born 22 March 1365/6; Marshal of England 1385; served against the Scots 1385 and a Franco-Hispanic-Flemish fleet off Margate March 1386/7, a Lord Appellant 1387/8; Keeper of Berwick and Roxburgh and Warden of the East March 1389; Captain in Calais Feb 1390/1-95/6; King's Lt in Artois, Calais, Flanders and Picardy 1392; Jt Ambassador to France Feb 1396/7 and Rhine Palatinate June 1397; quarreled with the Duke of Hereford (later Henry IV), each accusing the other of treason; both banished 1398; after his old enemy had usurped the throne as Henry IV the conferring of the Dukedom of Norfolk was annulled by Parliament 6 Oct 1399; married 1st 15 March 1382/3 Elizabeth (dsp 23 Aug 1383), daughter and heiress of 1st Lord (Baron) Strange of the 1360 creation; married 2nd July 1384 Elizabeth (married 3rd by 19 Aug 1401 Sir Robert Goushill (by whom she was mother of Elizabeth, who married Sir Robert Wingfield, of Letheringham) and 4th by 3 July 1414 Sir Gerard Usflete and died 8 July 1425, leaving further issue), widow of Sir William de Montagu (dsp), eldest son of the Earl of Salisbury, and daughter of 11th/4th Earl of Arundel, and died of plague in Venice 22 Sep 1399. [Burke's Peerage]

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    Thomas de Mowbray, 6th baron, then seventeen years of age, who was created Earl of Nottingham, as his brother had been, by charter, dated 12 February, 1383, and three years afterwards was constituted Earl Marshal by reason of his descent from Thomas, of Brotherton, his lordship being the first who had the title of earl attached to the office. In the 10th Richard II [1387], his lordship participated in the naval victory achieved by Richard, Earl of Arundel, over the French and Spaniards, and the subsequent conquest of the battle of Brest. In the 16th of the same reign, he was made governor of Calais, and in four years afterwards obtained the king's charter of confirmation of the office of earl marshal of England to the heirs male of his body, and that they, by reason of the said office, should bear a golden truncheon, enameled with black at each end, having at the upper end the kings arms, and at the lower, their own arms engraven thereon. Moreover, he stood in such favour that the king, acknowledging his just and hereditary title to bear for his crest a golden leopard with a white label, which of right belonged to the king's eldest son, did, by letters patent, grant to him and his heirs authority to bear the golden leopard for his crest, with a coronet of silver about his neck instead of the label; and the same year appointed him justice of Chester and Flintshire for life. In the 18th Richard, he attended the king into Ireland, but, afterwards siding with the parasites who controlled that weak and unfortunate prince, he not only aided in the destruction of his father-in-law, Richard, Earl of Arundel -- being one of the chief persons that guarded the unhappy nobleman to the place of execution -- but he is also accused of being an accomplice in the murder of Thomas, of Woodstock, Duke of Gloucester, the king's uncle. Certain it is that he was at this period in high estimation with the prevailing party and obtained a grant of all the lands of the unfortunate Lord Arundel, with those of Thomas Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick, which had also vested in the crown be forfeiture. These grants bore date 28 September, 1396, and the next day he was created Duke of Norfolk (his grandmother, Margaret, Duchess of Norfolk, being still alive). Prosperous, however, as this nobleman's career had hitherto been, it was doomed eventually to a disgraceful termination. Henry, Duke of Hereford (afterwards Henry IV), having accused his Grace of Norfolk, of speaking disrespectfully of the king, a challenge ensued, and a day was named for the combat, when the lists were accordingly set up at Gosford Green, Coventry, and the king and court were present, but just as the combatants were about to engage and the charge had been sounded, Richard interfered, and by the advice of his council, prohibited the conflict, banishing the Duke of Hereford for ten years,m and the Duke of Norfolk for life -- who, thereupon going abroad, d. at Venice, of the pestilence, but, according to Sandford, of grief, in 1400. The duke, who along with his other great honours, was a knight of the Garter, m. 1st, Elizabeth, dau. of John, Lord Strange, of Blackmere, but had no issue; he m. 2ndly, Lady Elizabeth FitzAlan, dau. of Richard, Earl of Arundel, sister and co-heir of Thomas, Earl of Arundel, and widow of William de Montacute, by whom he had issue, Thomas, John, Isabel, Margaret, and Elizabeth. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 387, Mowbray, Earls of Nottingham, Dukes of Norfolk, Earls-Marshal, Earls of Warren and Surrey]

    Thomas, 6th Lord Mowbray, created after the decease of his brother, Earl of Nottingham and Duke of Norfolk, Earl Marshal, and K.G. His grace, for his military services, was authorised to bear for his crest a golden leopard with a coronet of silver. In 1398 he was accused by Henry Bolingbroke, Earl of Hereford, of having spoken slanderously of the king, when he charged with a design of destroying the principal members of the nobility. Norfolk denied the accusations and desired Hereford to prove its truth in single combat. The lists were set at Coventry in the presence of the king and the peers of the disputants, but on the eve of the contest the king interposed and forbade the combat. Both Norfolk and Hereford were banished, the former for life and the other for ten years. Norfolk d. of the plague at Venice in 1399. By his first wife, Elizabeth, dau. and heir of John, Lord Strange, of Blackmere, he had no issue. By his second wife, Elizabeth, dau. and co-heir of Richard FitzAlan, Earl of Arundel and Surrey, he left two sons and two daus., viz., Thomas, John, Margaret, and Isabel. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 485, Segrave, Barons Segrave of Barton Segrave]

    Thomas married Elizabeth Baroness Le STRANGE on 15 Mar 1382-1383 in 1st Wife. Elizabeth was born on 6 Dec 1356 in Blakemere, Weobley, Herefordshire, England; died on 23 Aug 1383 in Chawton, Hampshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Thomas married Elizabeth FITZALAN between 6 and 7 Jul 1384 in 2ND Husband, 2ND Wife. Elizabeth (daughter of Richard FITZALAN, 4th Earl of Arundel and Elizabeth DE BOHUN) was born in 1366 in Arundel Castle, Arundel, Sussex, England; died on 8 Jul 1425 in Hoveringham, Nottinghamshire, England; was buried on 9 Jul 1425 in Hoveringham, Nottinghamshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 8. John De MOWBRAY, Kg, 2Nd Duke Of Norfolk  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1392 in Thetford, Norfolk, England; died on 19 Oct 1432 in Epworth, Axholme, Lincolnshire, England.
    2. 9. Margaret De MOWBRAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1394 in Thetford, Norfolk, England; died on 8 Jul 1425.
    3. 10. Isabel De MOWBRAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1396 in Bristol, Gloucestershire, England; died on 27 Sep 1452 in Gloucester Castle (As A Prisoner Of Margaret DE Beauchamp); was buried in Greyfriars, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England.
    4. 11. Elizabeth De MOWBRAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1398 in Thetford, Norfolk, England; died after 1 Dec 1423 in Bruisyard, Sussex, England (As A Nun).

  4. 5.  Joan (Jane) De MOWBRAYJoan (Jane) De MOWBRAY Descendancy chart to this point (1.Elizabeth1) was born about 1368 in Epworth, Isle Of Axholme, Lincolnshire, England; died after 30 Nov 1402.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: L6T8-ZKL
    • _UID: C26DEEED26294403BF640BAB60F5C773088B

    Notes:

    Jane de Mowbray; m. Sir Thomas Gray of Wark. [Ancestral Roots]

    Joan de Mowbray; m. Sir Thomas Grey of Heaton, d. c 30 Nov 1400. [Magna Charta Sureties]

    Note: Sometimes it is hard to recognize that these two sources are talking about the same people.

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    Following copied from Dave Utzinger, World Connect db=utzing, rootsweb.com,
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    Said to be daughter of John de Mowbray and Elizabeth de Segrave. 4 sons & 1 daughter

    There are at least two sources which identity Thomas Gray's wife, Joan, as the daughter of John de Mowbray. The first source is the Visitation of the North taken c. 1480-1500 in which Joan is called "Ionetta filia Johannes Moubray." [Reference: Surtees Soc., 144 (1930): 53-54]. The visitation is one of the earliest visitations on record and one of the best in my opinion.

    The second source is the monumental inscription of Joan (Mowbray) Gray's son, Henry Gray, which reads as follows:
    "Here lyeth Syr Henry Grey, the sonne of Syre Thomas Grey, and Jone, hys wyf, that was systere to the Duke of Norfolk, that dyed at Venis." [Reference: Scott, Memorials of the Family of Scott (1876), p. 126
    footnote p].

    The Duke of Norfolk who died in Venice was Thomas Mowbray, Duke of Norfolk, who died there of pestilence in 1399. He was the son of John de Mowbray, 4th Lord Mowbray, and his wife, Elizabeth de Segrave.

    I trust that answers your question.

    Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

    Joan married Thomas GREY, Of Heton & Wark, Sir in 1st Husband. Thomas was born about 1359 in Heaton Castle, Wark-On-Tweed, Northumberland, England; died about 30 Nov 1400. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 12. John GREY, Of Wark-On-Tweed, Kg, Sir  Descendancy chart to this point was born after 1384 in Heaton Castle, Wark-On-Tweed, Northumberland, England; died on 22 Mar 1420-1421 in Battle Of Bauge, Anjou, France (Killed).
    2. 13. Maud GREY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1386 in Heaton Castle, Wark-On-Tweed, Northumberland, England; died after 22 Aug 1451.

    Joan married Thomas TUNSTALL, Of Thurland, Sir before 30 Nov 1402 in 2ND Husband, 2ND Wife. Thomas was born about 1358 in Thurland Manor, Tunstall, Lancashire, England; died on 5 Nov 1415 in Thurland Castle, Tunstall, Lancashire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]



Generation: 3

  1. 6.  Walter LUCY, Of Newington & Richards Castle, SirWalter LUCY, Of Newington & Richards Castle, Sir Descendancy chart to this point (2.Margaret2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born before 1379 in Wapenham, Northamptonshire, England; died on 4 Oct 1444 in Richard's Castle, Ludlow, Herefordshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: GQ1H-C87
    • _UID: 74C9509FAFBE43779E17CF1FF05E24238BF0

    Notes:

    WALTER LUCY, son and heir, was aged 40 and (much] more when he succeeded his father. His marriage made him a landowner in the West of England; as early as 1415 he was a commissioner in the marches of Wales, and later justice of the peace, and commisioner on several occasions in Hereford, Salop, and Worcs. In 1416 he was a knight, though it was as plain Walter Lucy, of Richard's Castle, that he had protection on going to the French war, January 1419/20, in the company of the Earl of March.

    He married, in or before May 1385, Eleanor, elder daughter and coheir of Sir Warin ARCEDEKNE, by Elizabeth, daughter of Sir John TALBOT, of Richard's Castle. He died 4 October 1444. His widow died 20 July 1447. [Complete Peerage VIII:261-2, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    Walter married Eleanor L' ARCEDEKNE before May 1385 in Cornwall, England. Eleanor was born in 1383 in Richard's Castle, Ludlow, Herefordshire, England; died on 20 Jul 1447. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 14. Eleanor LUCY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1407 in Wapenham, Northamptonshire, England; died before 1460.
    2. 15. Maud LUCY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1409 in Wapenham, Northamptonshire, England; and died.

  2. 7.  Eudo (Ives Or Eon) WELLES, SirEudo (Ives Or Eon) WELLES, Sir Descendancy chart to this point (3.Eleanor2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born in 1387 in Well, Lincolnshire, England; died before 1421.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 6DFDC46251614327ADAD214B49DBDB047518

    Notes:

    [IVES (or EON) DE WELLES, son and heir apparent, by 1st wife, took part in the rebellion of 1405, for which he was fined 100 marks and pardoned, 7 August 1405. He had licence to travel abroad, 20 December 1407. He married Maud, daughter of Ralph (DE GREYSTOKE), 3rd LORD GREYSTOKE, by Katherine, daughter of Roger (DE CLIFFORD), 5th LORD CLIFFORD. He died v.p.] [Complete Peerage XII/2:443, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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    Eudo de Welles, d. bef. 26 Aug 1421, oldest son of John de Welles & wife Eleanor, daughter of John de Mowbray by wife Elizabeth de Seagrave. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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    Eudo m. Maude, dau. of Ralph, Lord Greystock. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, p. 572, Welles, Barons Welles]

    Died:
    (Dvp)

    Family/Spouse: Maud De GREYSTOKE. Maud was born in 1390 in Greystoke, Cumberland, England; died in 1416. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 16. Lionel 6Th Baron De WELLES, Kg, Sir  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1406 in Well, Lincolnshire, England; died on 29 Mar 1461 in Battle Of Towton, Yorkshire, England (As A Lancastrian).
    2. 17. Mary WELLES  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1410 in Well, Lincolnshire, England; and died.

  3. 8.  John De MOWBRAY, Kg, 2Nd Duke Of NorfolkJohn De MOWBRAY, Kg, 2Nd Duke Of Norfolk Descendancy chart to this point (4.Thomas2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born about 1392 in Thetford, Norfolk, England; died on 19 Oct 1432 in Epworth, Axholme, Lincolnshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 8CF5F78456E8496B8A0DD7472A07E209BF90

    Notes:

    John de Mowbray [succeeded elder brother Thomas beheaded (dsp) without trial 8 June 1405 for involvement in plot against Henry IV], 8th Lord (Baron) Mowbray and 9th Lord (Baron) Segrave, also 3rd Earl of Nottingham, 5th Earl of Norfolk and Earl Marshal, KG (1421), PC (1422); born 1392; served last phase of Hundred Years War; restored as 2nd Duke of Norfolk 30 April 1425; married 12 Jan 1411/2 Lady Katherine Nevill(e), daughter of 1st Earl of Westmorland, and died 19 Oct 1432. [Burke's Peerage]

    John married Katherine NEVILLE on 12 Jan 1411-1412 in 1st Husband. Katherine was born about 1397 in Raby Castle, Durham, England; died after Jan 1477-1478. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 9.  Margaret De MOWBRAYMargaret De MOWBRAY Descendancy chart to this point (4.Thomas2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born about 1394 in Thetford, Norfolk, England; died on 8 Jul 1425.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: 9KBD-B1T
    • _UID: C5CFF0D9347B429788000FC5537B4386D86E

    Notes:

    Lady Margaret de Mowbray, elder daughter of 1st Duke of Norfolk of the 1397 creation by his 2nd wife Elizabeth Fitz Alan. [Burke's Peerage]

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    Margaret de Mowbray; m. c 1420, Sir Robert Howard, KG, b. c 1383, d. 1436, of Stoke-by-Nayland, Suffolk, son of Sir John Howard. [Magna Charta Sureties]

    Margaret married Robert HOWARD in 1420 in Norfolk, England. Robert (son of John HOWARD and Alice TENDRING) was born about 1385 in Stoke Neyland, Suffolk, England; died on 1 Apr 1436 in Stoke By Nayland, Suffolk, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 18. John HOWARD, Kg, 1St Duke Of Norfolk  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1422 in Babergh, Suffolk, England; died on 22 Aug 1485 in Battle Of Bosworth Field, Leicestershire, England; was buried on 3 Nov 1485 in Thetford, Norfolk, England.
    2. 19. Anne HOWARD  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1422 in England; and died.
    3. 20. Jane HOWARD  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1422 in Norfolk Co., England; died on 25 Aug 1508 in England.
    4. 21. Margaret HOWARD  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1424 in Ireland; died in 1472.
    5. 22. Catherine HOWARD  Descendancy chart to this point was born before 1425 in Norfolk Co. England, U.K.; died after 29 Jun 1478.

  5. 10.  Isabel De MOWBRAYIsabel De MOWBRAY Descendancy chart to this point (4.Thomas2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born about 1396 in Bristol, Gloucestershire, England; died on 27 Sep 1452 in Gloucester Castle (As A Prisoner Of Margaret DE Beauchamp); was buried in Greyfriars, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: K4F4-GKQ
    • Name: Isabelle DE MOWBRAY
    • _UID: EF6E4BF508594F7984C749F86B6F48C438E3

    Notes:

    Note: "Some Correction & Additions to CP", citing CP IX:610 note (c), suggests that Isabel may have been a younger daughter than her sister Margaret (because it was Margaret's son who became Duke of Norfolk), despite all the sources that have Isabel as eldest daughter.

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    Isabel, widow of Henry Ferrers, son and heir of William, Lord Ferrers of Groby, and 1st daughter and in issue coheir of Thomas de Mowbray, Duke of Norfolk. She died a prisoner of Margaret, Countess of Shrewsbury, 2nd wife of John Talbot, Earl of Shrewsbury, and step-mother of James Berkeley's 4th wife. She [Margaret] was granddaughter and coheir of Thomas Berkeley, Lord Berkeley, uncle of James, from whom the title had passed to James. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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    Isabel de Mowbray, d. 27 Sep 1452; m. (2) 1423/4, James de Berkeley, Lord Berkeley, b. c 1394, d. Nov 1463, MP 1421-1461 (son of Sir James de Berkeley, b. c 1353/4, dvf 13 June 1405 (elder brother & male heir of Sir Thomas de Berkeley, Lord Berkeley), and Elizabeth, daughter and heir of Sir John Blouet of Raglan, co. Monmouth, both sons of Maurice de Berkeley by Elizabeth Despencer [sic.], daughter of Sir Hugh le Despencer [sic.] and Alianore de Clare. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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    Isabel Mowbray (died 27 Sep 1452), eldest daughter of 1st Duke of Norfolk of the 1396 creation and widow of Henry Ferrers (dvp 1394), son and heir of 5th Lord (Baron) Ferrers (of Groby). [Burke's Peerage]

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    He [James de Berkeley] married, 3rdly, 1423-24, Isabel, widow of Henry FERRERS, son and heir apparent of William, Lord FERRERS (of Groby), and 1st daughter (whose issue became coheirs) of Thomas (DE MOWBRAY), DUKE OF NORFOLK, by Elizabeth, da. of RICHARD (FITZ ALAN), EARL OF ARUNDEL. She was, while about to appeal to the King in Council on behalf of her husband, arrested by order of Margaret, Countess of Shrewsbury (granddaughter and coheir of the last Lord Berkeley), and imprisoned at Gloucester, where she died 27 September 1452, and was buried in the church of the Greyfriars there. [Complete Peerage II:132-3, XIV:87, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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    He [Henry Ferrers] married, shortly before 13 July 1416, Isabel, 1st daughter of Thomas (MOUBRAY), DUKE, or NORFOLK and EARL MARSHAL, by his 2nd wife, Elizabeth D'ARUNDELLE, sister and coheir of Thomas EARL OF ARUNDEL and 1st daughter of Richard EARL OF ARUNDEL. He died v.p. and s.p.m. His widow married, in or before 3 Hen. VI, as 2nd wife, Sir James BERKELEY, of Berkeley, co. Gloucester [LORD BERKELEY]. She died in Gloucester Castle, being then a prisoner there 23 September 1452, and was buried in the Church of the Grey Friars at Gloucester. He, who was born at Raglan, co. Monmouth, about 1394, died in Berkeley Castle shortly before 5 December 1463, and was buried in Berkeley Church. [Complete Peerage V:357-8, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    Note: Funny how some authors for CP (and other publications) like to fancy up the names "Moubray", "Arundelle", etc. It just adds to the difficulty (unnecessarily) of genealogy. Compare this entry to the similar one just above it for James de Berkely from CP. Rather than creating showy names, the author (G. W. Watson) of this article could have spent more productive time coming up with an approximate birth or death date for Henry. If the author was trying to stick close to the original spelling in certain documents, then why not "Richardus" instead of "Richard", or "Isabela" instead of "Isabel", or "Jacoba" instead of "James", as these were the names as written in Latin.

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    Note: Isabel died in the custody of Margaret de Beauchamp because of a prolonged feud over the estates of Thomas de Berkeley and Margaret de Lisle. The feud ended 20 March 1469/70 with the Battle of Nibley Green in which James de Berkeley & Isabel de Mowbray's eldest son William 1st/last Marquess de Berkeley killed Margaret de Beauchamp & John Talbot's grandson Sir Thomas Talbot, 2nd/last Viscount Lisle. See notes under James de Berkeley & William de Berkeley.

    Lady Isabelle Berkeley (de Mowbray) MP
    Gender:Female
    Birth:circa 1396 Epworth, North Lincolnshire, England
    Death:September 29, 1452 (52-60)
    Berkeley Castle, Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England
    Place of Burial:Greyfriars, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England

    Immediate Family:
    Daughter of Thomas de Mowbray, 1st Duke of Norfolk and Elizabeth FitzAlan, Duchess of Norfolk

    Wife of James de Berkeley "The Just", 1st Baron Berkeley and Henry Ferrers - 6th Baron Ferrers of Groby
    In about 1424, James was wed to Lady Isabel de Mowbray (b. 1396 - d. 29 November 1452), in which James was her second husband and Henry Ferrers was her first. They had the following issue:
    Elizabeth de Berkeley (b. 1425 - d. 1482)
    Sir William de Berkeley, Earl of Nottingham (c. 1427 - 1492); William became the 2nd Baron Berkeley sometime after his father's death in 1463.
    James de Berkeley, Esquire (b. 1429)
    Alice de Berkeley (b. 1432)
    Sir Maurice de Berkeley VI, Lord Berkeley (c. 1435 - 1 September 1506), who was married to Isabel Meade, daughter of merchant Phillip Meade and his wife Isabel, in 1465 and had issue.
    Thomas de Berkeley, Esquire (b. 1435 - d. 1484)
    Isabel de Berkeley (b. 1438 - d. 1482)

    Mother of Alice Arthur (de Berkley); Elizabeth de Berkeley; Sir William de Berkeley, 7th Lord Berkeley; James de Berkeley, Lord; Isabel Berkeley and 6 others

    Sister of Thomas de Mowbray, 4th Earl of Norfolk; John de Mowbray, 2nd Duke of Norfolk; Elizabeth Catherine Pole Beaumont (Mowbray) and Lady Margaret de Mowbray
    Half sister of Elizabeth Hardwick, Duchess of Norfolk; Joan Goushill, Baroness of Stanley and Joyce Goushill

    Isabel was arrested by order of Margaret, the Countess of Shrewsbury, the granddaughter and co-heiress of the last Lord Berkeley, and the wife of the Earl of Shrewsbury, the son-in-law of the James' cousin, Elizabeth, who was forced to concede Berkeley Castle to James after a feud between James and Elizabeth, Countess of Warwick, daughter of the fifth Baron Berkeley and the wife of Richard de Beauchamp, 13th Earl of Warwick. Isabel was imprisoned at Gloucester Castle and died there 27 Sept 1452.


    Isabel married Henry FERRERS, Of Groby, Sir before 13 Jul 1416 in 1st Husband. Henry was born about 1394 in Groby Old Hall, Leicestershire, England; died before 1423. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 23. Elizabeth 6Th Baroness FERRERS, Of Groby  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1419 in Groby Old Hall, Leicestershire, England; died before 23 Jan 1482-1483 in Groby Castle, Groby, Leicestershire, England; was buried in St Philip and St James Churchyard, Groby, Leicestershire, England.
    2. 24. Maurice DE FERRERS  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1420 in Berkeley Castle, Gloucestershire, England; died in Sep 1506 in Berkeley Castle, Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England.
    3. 25. William de FERRERS  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1421 in Halifax, Yorkshire, , England; died in 1472 in Halifax, Yorkshire, England.
    4. 26. Henry FERRERS  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1423; died in 1472.

    Isabel married James "The Just" 1St Baron De BERKELEY, Sir between 1423 and 1424 in 2ND Husband 3Rd Wife. James was born about 1394 in Raglan, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in Nov 1463 in Berkeley Castle, Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England; was buried in St Mary's Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 27. Elizabeth de BERKELEY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1425 in Berkeley Castle, Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England; died in 1482 in England; was buried in Gloucestershire, England.
    2. 28. Lord William BERKELEY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1426 in Berkeley Castle, Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England; died on 14 Feb 1492 in Westminster, England; was buried in 1492 in Church Of The Augustine Friars, London, England.
    3. 29. James BERKELEY, III  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1428 in Gloucestershire, England; died in Feb 1452 in Castillon, France; was buried in Berkeley Castle, Gloucestershire, England, United Kingdom.
    4. 30. Maurice BERKELEY OF THORNBURY, Esq.  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1435 in Berkeley Castle, Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England; died in Sep 1506 in Mangotsfield, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England; was buried in Austin Friar's, London, England.
    5. 31. Thomas de BERKELEY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1437 in Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England; died on 2 Jul 1484 in Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England; was buried in 1484 in Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England.
    6. 32. Elizabeth BARKHOUSE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1442 in England; died on 30 Jul 1477 in England; was buried in Aug 1477 in England.

  6. 11.  Elizabeth De MOWBRAYElizabeth De MOWBRAY Descendancy chart to this point (4.Thomas2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born about 1398 in Thetford, Norfolk, England; died after 1 Dec 1423 in Bruisyard, Sussex, England (As A Nun).

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 7A970AF1FAE14E30BEDC85B30C434B5425D5

    Notes:

    He [Michael de la Pole] married, before 24 November 1403, Elizabeth, 3rd daughter of Thomas (MOWBRAY), DUKE OF NORFOLK, by his 2nd wife, Elizabeth, daughter of Richard (FITZALAN), EARL OF ARUNDEL. He died s.p.m., 25 October 1415, being slain at the battle of Agincourt, and is said to have been buried at Ewelme, Oxon. His widow took the veil at Bruisyard, Suffolk, before 17 January 1419/20, and was living, 1 December 1423. [Complete Peerage XII/1:442-3, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    Elizabeth married Michael De LA POLE, 3rd Earl Of Suffolk before 24 Nov 1403. Michael (son of Michael De LA POLE, 2nd Earl Of Suffolk and Katherine De STAFFORD) was born about 1394 in Cotton, Suffolk, England; died on 25 Oct 1415 in Battle Of Agincourt, Artois/Pas-DE-Calais, France (Dspm). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  7. 12.  John GREY, Of Wark-On-Tweed, Kg, SirJohn GREY, Of Wark-On-Tweed, Kg, Sir Descendancy chart to this point (5.Joan2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born after 1384 in Heaton Castle, Wark-On-Tweed, Northumberland, England; died on 22 Mar 1420-1421 in Battle Of Bauge, Anjou, France (Killed).

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 3EF52F6C053E4EC3B31899CE062A47D6A1EC

    Notes:

    SIR JOHN GRAY or GREY, younger son of Sir Thomas GRAY, of Heton and Wark-on-Tweed, Northumberland (who d. 26 November or 3 December 1400) (c), by Joan, his wife (who was living 30 November 1402). He was born after 1384. On 29 June 1404 he and Richard de Ledes, who had challenged two Scots to six courses on horseback , with lances, had licence to fulfil their challenges at Carlisle before the King's brother, Ralph, Earl of Westmorland, or before John, son of that Earl. On 14 August 1409 he was granted, for his good services to the King and the Prince of Wales, 40 marks a year, for life, from the issues of Northumberland. On 8 August 1415 the King granted him all the lands held in fee simple which his eldest brother, Thomas Grey of Heton chr., deceased, had forfeited, and the keeping of the lands which the said Thomas had held in fee tail. He fought at the battle of Agincourt, 25 October 1415. He accompanied the King to France in July 1417. On 31 October 1417 he was appointed Captain of the castle and town of Mortagne, during pleasure. On 24 November following the King gave him the castle and lordship of Tilly in Normandy, late of Philip Harecourt chr., to hold in tail male. Nominated K.G. about 1418/9. On 31 January 1418/9 he was granted the comte' of Tancarville, in tail male, to hold by homage, rendering yearly a basinet at the castle of Rouen.

    He married Joan, elder daughter and coheir of Sir Edward CHERLETON, of POWiS, co. Montgomery (LORD CHERLETON], by his 1st wife, Alianore, sister and coheir of Edmund, EARL OF KENT, and eldest daughter of Thomas (DE HOLAND), EARL OF KENT. He was killed at the battle of Baug? in Anjou, 22 March 1420/1. On 20 July 1422 his widow had ivery of her purparty of her father's lands. She died 17 September 1425. [Complete Peerage VI:136-8, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    (c) He d. Thursday before, or Tuesday after, St. Andrew 2 Henry IV, according to the inquisitions taken in Northumberland and at Newcastle-on-Tyne, respectively. In 1398 he obtained the castle, manor, and lordship of Wark-on-Tweed from Ralph, Earl of Westmorland, in exchange for other manors. He, who was aged 10 in 1369, was son and heir of Sir Thomas Grey, of Heton (author of the "Scalacronica"), by Margaret, daughter and heir of William de Pressene, of Presson, Northumberland. The last-named Thomas, who d. shortly bef. Monday after St. Luke (22 Oct] 1369, had done homage to the Bishop of Durham, and had livery of the manor of Heton 10 Apr 1344. He was son and heir of Sir Thomas de Grey, of Heton in Islandshire, who d. shortly bef. 12 Mar 1343/4, by Agnes, his wife.

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    Joan Cherleton; m. Sir John Grey (or Gray), KG, created Earl of Tankerville in Normandy, b. aft. 1384, d. 22 Mar 1420/1, son of Sir Thomas Gray, d. 1400, of Heton & Wark-on-Tweed, co. Northumberland, by his wife Joan. [Ancestral Roots]

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    The following post to SGM, 17 May 2003, by Adrian Channing, explains where Heaton Castle was:

    From: [email protected] ([email protected])
    Subject: Re: Grays of Heton, Northumberland
    Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
    Date: 2003-05-17 05:12:15 PST

    There are two Warks in Northumberland (in addition to Warkworth), both had castles. Heaton Castle was a few miles north east of Wark on Tweed, and a little SE of Twisel. In 1415 it belonged to Sir Thomas Gray (one tower was a large carving of a lion rampant, the emblem of the Hetons and the Greys). The site is now a farmstead. Heton/Heaton is said to be ghosted. Close by is the ruins of Etal Castle.

    As for the Castle of Wark upon Tweed, I beleive I have preveiously posted details and should be in the archives. Cornhill (which, in 1541 had a tower) is between Heton and this Wark. The other Wark is on the Tyne.

    Adrian

    Family/Spouse: Joan CHERLETON. Joan was born about 1400 in Upper Powys, Montgomeryshire, Wales; died on 17 Sep 1425. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 33. Henry GREY, Of Powis, Count Of Tankarville  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1419 in Heaton Castle, Wark-On-Tweed, Northumberland, England; died on 13 Jan 1449-1450 in Powis, Montgomeryshire, Wales.

  8. 13.  Maud GREYMaud GREY Descendancy chart to this point (5.Joan2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born about 1386 in Heaton Castle, Wark-On-Tweed, Northumberland, England; died after 22 Aug 1451.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 144B0F01209C4B138B528D944F1B87DB538F

    Notes:

    Maud Grey, living 22 Aug 1451; m. c 21 May 1399, Sir Robert Ogle, Knight, b. 1369/73, d. 12 Aug 1436, warden of Roxborough Castle. [Ancestral Roots]

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    He [Robert de Ogle] married, on or before 21 May 1399, Maud, daughter of Thomas GREY, lord of Wark. He died 12 or 13 August 1436. His widow was living 22 August 1451. [Complete Peerage X:28-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    Maud married Robert De OGLE, Sir Knight before 21 May 1399. Robert was born between 1379 and 1383 in Ogle, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England; died on 12 Aug 1436. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 34. Elizabeth (Anne) De OGLE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1404 in Kirkley, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England; and died.
    2. 35. Margery (Margaret) De OGLE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1406 in Kirkley, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England; and died.


Generation: 4

  1. 14.  Eleanor LUCYEleanor LUCY Descendancy chart to this point (6.Walter3, 2.Margaret2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born about 1407 in Wapenham, Northamptonshire, England; died before 1460.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: LCPP-Q9H
    • LifeSketch: ; SIR THOMAS HOPTON, KNIGHT was born about 1399 of Hopton, Suffolk, England, to unknown parents. He married Eleanor Lucy about 1433 of Hopton, Suffolk, England.
    • _UID: B8BF843FDA304DFB9C2395591492DDD18DDA
    • Alt. Death: 22 Jun 1460, Worcester, Worcestershire, England, United Kingdom

    Eleanor married Thomas HOPTON in 1425 in Hopton Castle, Shropshire, England. Thomas (son of Thomas DE HOPTON, I and Joanne DE MORTIMER) was born about 1399 in Hopton Castle, Shropshire, England; died in 1445 in Hopton Castle, Shropshire, England, United Kingdom. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 36. Eleanor HOPTON  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1422 in Hopton Castle, Shropshire, England, United Kingdom; died on 22 Jun 1499 in Hopton Castle, Shropshire, England.
    2. 37. Agnes HOPTON  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1427 in Church Stretton, Shropshire, England; and died.
    3. 38. Elizabeth HOPTON  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1427 in Hopton Castle, Shropshire, England; died on 22 Jun 1498 in Hopton Castle, Shropshire, England, United Kingdom; was buried on 1 Jul 1498 in Shropshire, England, United Kingdom.
    4. 39. Sir John HOPTON  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1428 in Shropshire, England; died on 7 Feb 1484 in Swillington, Suffolk, England.
    5. 40. Thomas HOPTON  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1430 in Shropshire, England; and died.
    6. 41. Walter HOPTON  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1431 in Hopton Bank, Shropshire, England; died in 1461.
    7. 42. Peter HOPTON  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1434; and died.
    8. 43. Joan HOPTON  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1435 in Edenham, Lincolnshire, England; died on 5 Aug 1466 in Titchmarsh, Northamptonshire, England; was buried on 1 Jul 1498 in Shropshire, England, United Kingdom.
    9. 44. Isabel HOPTON  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1437 in Westwood, Norfolk, Massachusetts; died on 28 Oct 1489 in Fressingfield, Suffolk, England.

  2. 15.  Maud LUCYMaud LUCY Descendancy chart to this point (6.Walter3, 2.Margaret2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born about 1409 in Wapenham, Northamptonshire, England; and died.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: LH6P-XNS
    • _UID: 4988C04523574EA49B423CC227625A5A5A62

    Notes:

    Maud, sister and coheir of Sir William Lucy. [Burke's Peerage]

    Family/Spouse: William VAUX, Sheriff Of Northampton, Sir. William was born about 1410 in Harrowden, Northamptonshire, England; died on 10 Dec 1460. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 45. William VAUX, Sir  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1437 in Harrowden, Northamptonshire, England; died on 4 May 1471 in Battle Of Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England (Killed).

  3. 16.  Lionel 6Th Baron De WELLES, Kg, SirLionel 6Th Baron De WELLES, Kg, Sir Descendancy chart to this point (7.Eudo3, 3.Eleanor2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born in 1406 in Well, Lincolnshire, England; died on 29 Mar 1461 in Battle Of Towton, Yorkshire, England (As A Lancastrian).

    Other Events:

    • _UID: F7DA3D712DD44E32A9C00249BFB1687501A4

    Notes:

    BARONY OF WELLES (VI)

    LIONEL (DE WELLES), LORD WELLES, grandson and heir, being son and heir of IVES (or EON) DE WELLES, by Maud his wife, was born 1406; knighted in the Parliament at Leicester, 19 May 1426, by the infant King Henry VI; and had seisin of his lands, 5 December 1427. He accompanied
    the King to France in 1430; was summoned to Parliament from 25 February 1431/2 to 30 July 1460, by writs directed Leoni de Welles; P.C. before 12 November 1434; a member of the King's Household, before February 1437/8; Lieutenant of Ireland, 12 February 1437/8-February 1441/2; joint Deputy, with Lord Rivers, in Calais for his brother-in-law, the Duke of Somerset, then Lieutenant of Calais, 1451-55. A firm adherent of the House of Lancaster, he was nominated K.G. before 13 May, and installed, with the Earl of Shrewsbury, 14 May 1457; was sent with reinforcements to Calais, October 1457; taken prisoner by the Yorkists at Blore Heath, 3 September 1459; was with Queen Margaret's army, which advanced on London and won St. Albans, 17 February 1460/1; but was killed at the battle of Towton, 29 March 1461. He married, 1stly, 15 August 1417, at St. Oswald's, Methley, co. York, Joan (or Cecily), daughter and (eventually, in her issue) heir of Robert WATERTON, of Methley, by Joan, widow of Sir William ELLIS, of Kiddal, co. York, daughter of William DE EVERINGHAM, of Laxton, co. Nottingham. She (described as Joan), who was living, 18 October 1434, was buried in the Waterton chapel at Methley. He married, 2ndly (licence 14 April, settlement 20 April 1447), Margaret, de jure suo jure (according to modern doctrine) BARONESS BEAUCHAMP OF BLETSOE, widow of John (BEAUFORT), 1st DUKE OF SOMERSET (who died s.p.m. 27 May 1444), and before that of Sir Oliver ST. JOHN, sister and heir of John BEAUCHAMP, daughter of John BEAUCHAMP, of Bletsoe (according to modern doctrine 4th and 3rd LORDS BEAUCHAMP OF BLETOE), by Edith, daughter of Sir John STOURTON. He died 29 March 1461, aged about 55, and was buried with his 1st wife at Methley. After his death he was attainted by Act of Parliament, 21 December 1461, whereby all his honours were forfeited. His widow died, apparently shortly before 3 June 1482, certainly on or before 20 July following. [Complete Peerage XII/2:443-4, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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    Sir Lionel de Welles, KG, b. 1406, d. Towton 29 Mar 1461, Lord Welles, Governor of Ireland 1438-1442; m. (1) Methley, 15 Aug 1417, Joan de Waterton, d. bet. 14 Oct 1434 and 14 Apr 1447, daughter of Robert de Waterton of co. York. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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    Sir Leo, or Lionel de Welles, as 6th baron, summoned to parliament from 25 February, 1432, to 30 July, 1460. This nobleman received the honour of knighthood in the 4th Henry VI [1426] from the Duke of Bedford at Leicester, with the young king himself and divers other persons of rank. His lordship for several years after served with great honour in France and was made lieutenant of Ireland for seven years in the 16th of the same reign. When the fatal feud between the houses of York and Lancaster broke out, Lord Welles arrayed himself under the banner of the latter, and adhering to his colours with unbending fidelity, fell at the battle of Towton field on Palm Sunday, 1461. His remains were deposited in Waterton Chapel, at Methley, co. York. His lordship m. 1st, Joan, or by some accounts, Cecilia, only dau. of Sir Robert Waterton, of Waterton and Methley, co. York, and sister and heir of Sir Robert Waterton, also of Waterton, Knt., and had issue, Richard, Alianore, Cecily, Margaret, and Catherine. Lord Welles m. 2ndly, Margaret, sister and heir of Sir John Beauchamp, of Bletshoe, and widow of John Beaufort, Earl of Somerset (by whom she was mother of Margaret, Countess of Richmond, mother of King Henry VII) and had another son, John, created Viscount Welles. An attainder followed his lordship's decease, under which the Barony of Welles became forfeited. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, p. 572, Welles, Barons Welles]

    The rolls of parliament show that, in the first year of Henry VII [1485[, a statute passed finally reversing all acts of attainder or forfeiture which had ever been enacted aginst the Barony of Welles. [Sir Bernard Burke, History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, Vol. II, p. 558, Walrond, of Dulford House]

    Lionel married Joan (Cecily) De WATERTON on 15 Aug 1417 in Methley, Yorkshire, England. Joan was born in 1407 in Methley, Yorkshire, England; died after 18 Oct 1434 in Waterton Chapel, Methley, Yorkshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 46. Eleanor WELLES  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1428 in Well, Lincolnshire, England; died in 1504.

    Lionel married Margaret De BEAUCHAMP on 14 Apr 1447 in 3rd Husband 2ND Wife - License Date. Margaret was born about 1412 in Bletsoe, Bedford, Bedfordshire, England; died before 20 Jul 1482 in Westminster, London, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  4. 17.  Mary WELLESMary WELLES Descendancy chart to this point (7.Eudo3, 3.Eleanor2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born about 1410 in Well, Lincolnshire, England; and died.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 439FD9B2DCC1425DAB48F3F21ACB792E0D82

    Family/Spouse: John LAWRENCE, Of Rixton. John was born about 1405 in Rixton With Glazebrook, Warrington, Lancashire, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 47. Margaret LAWRENCE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1436 in Rixton With Glazebrook, Warrington, Lancashire, England; and died.

  5. 18.  John HOWARD, Kg, 1St Duke Of NorfolkJohn HOWARD, Kg, 1St Duke Of Norfolk Descendancy chart to this point (9.Margaret3, 4.Thomas2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born in 1422 in Babergh, Suffolk, England; died on 22 Aug 1485 in Battle Of Bosworth Field, Leicestershire, England; was buried on 3 Nov 1485 in Thetford, Norfolk, England.

    Other Events:

    • Cause of Death: ; Slain in the Battle of Bosworth Field
    • FamilySearch ID: LC5X-KB5
    • TitleOfNobility: ; 1st Duke of Norfolk
    • _UID: B8C758B8D7F243B3ACDE680FE5A401AF8812
    • Military: 17 Jul 1453; Served in the Battle of Chastillon
    • MilitaryService: 1462; Constable of Norwich Castle
    • MilitaryService: 1466; Vice-Admiral for Norfolk and Suffolk

    Notes:

    Sir John Howard, KG, slain at Bosworth Field, 22 Aug 1485, Duke of Norfolk 1483, Earl Marshal; m. (1) 1440 Catherine Moleyns, d. 3 Nov 1465, daughter of Sir William Moleyns of Stoke Poges, co. Buckingham; m. (2) bef. 22 Jan 1467, Margaret, daughter of Sir John Chedworth, and widow of (1) Nicholas Wyfold and (2) John Norreys. She d. 1494. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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    John Howard, 1st Duke of Norfolk, as also Marshal and Earl Marshal of England, so created 28 June 1483 (by Richard III, who seems illegally to have stripped his own nephew Edward, Duke of York (one of 2 Princes in the Tower) of an identically worded dignity, as also by writ of summons 15 Oct 1470 (though previous references to him as Lord Howard are to be found as early as Nov 1467) Lord (Baron) Howard, KG (1472), PC (1483); b 1421/2; served Hundred Years War in France 1452-53, MP Norfolk 1455, Yorkist in Wars of Roses, knighted by Edward IV at Yorkist victory of Towton 29 March 1461; Sheriff of Norfolk and Suffolk 1461 and Oxon 1467; Constable of Colchester and Norwich Castles 1461; Treasurer Household 1467-74; Governor Calais early 1470's; commanded English Fleet in naval victory over Scots in Firth of Forth 1482; Admiral of England, Ireland and Aquitaine 1483, Steward Duchy Lancaster 1483; married c1443 Katherine (died 1465), daughter of Sir William de Moleyns; married 2nd by 22 Jan 1467 Margaret, daughter of Sir John Chedworth and widow of (a) John Norreys, of Bray, Berks, and (b) Nicholas Wyfold, Lord Mayor of London, and was killed leading Richard III's archers at the front of the army at the Battle of Bosworth 22 Aug 1485. [Burke's Peerage]

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    Knight of the Garter; named first Duke of Norfolk in June 23, 1483; killed at the Battle of Bosworth Field August 22, 1485, the last of the Wars of the Roses, in the service of Richard III.

    Family/Spouse: Katharine MOLINES. Katharine and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 48. Thomas HOWARD  Descendancy chart to this point and died.

    John married Catherine MOLEYNS in Aug 1441 in Stoke By Nayland, Suffolk, England. Catherine was born before 1425 in Stoke Poges, Buckinghamshire, England; died on 3 Nov 1465 in Stoke-By-Nayland, Suffolk, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 49. Isabel HOWARD  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1442 in Tendring, Essex, England; died on 7 Jul 1505 in Great Ashfield, Stow, Suffolk, England.
    2. 50. Lady Margaret HOWARD  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1442 in Wiggenhall St Mary the Virgin, Norfolk, England; died in 1484 in Felbrigg, , Norfolk, England; was buried in 1484 in St. Botolph Churchyard, Boston, , Lincolnshire, England.
    3. 51. Thomas HOWARD, 2nd Duke Of Norfolk  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1443 in Stoke By Nayland, Suffolk, England; died on 21 May 1524 in Framingham Castle, Norfolk, England; was buried in Thetford Abbey, Norfolk, England.
    4. 52. John HOWARD, 3rd Duke of Mowbray  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1444 in Coningsby, Lincolnshire, England; died on 21 May 1524.
    5. 53. Nicholas HOWARD  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1445 in Stoke By Nayland, Suffolk, England; died in 1468 in Farlingham Castle, Farlingham, Norfolk, England.
    6. 54. Agnes HOWARD  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1446 in Tendring, Essex, England; and died.
    7. 55. Anne HOWARD  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1446 in Tendring, Essex, England; died before 1500 in Wraxall, Somerset, England.

    John married Margaret CHEDWORTH before 22 Jan 1466-1467 in 3rd Husband 2ND Wife. Margaret was born about 1436 in England; died in 1494 in Stoke-By-Nayland, Suffolk, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 19.  Anne HOWARDAnne HOWARD Descendancy chart to this point (9.Margaret3, 4.Thomas2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born in 1422 in England; and died.

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    • FamilySearch ID: G725-XQ3


  7. 20.  Jane HOWARDJane HOWARD Descendancy chart to this point (9.Margaret3, 4.Thomas2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born in 1422 in Norfolk Co., England; died on 25 Aug 1508 in England.

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    • FamilySearch ID: L13Q-M5K


  8. 21.  Margaret HOWARDMargaret HOWARD Descendancy chart to this point (9.Margaret3, 4.Thomas2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born about 1424 in Ireland; died in 1472.

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    • FamilySearch ID: L81Y-5ZD


  9. 22.  Catherine HOWARDCatherine HOWARD Descendancy chart to this point (9.Margaret3, 4.Thomas2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born before 1425 in Norfolk Co. England, U.K.; died after 29 Jun 1478.

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    • FamilySearch ID: LR6S-MW7
    • _UID: EBE56F5278154C88A1CF25BCE03E967A71B9

    Notes:

    Catherine, daughter of Sir Robert Howard and sister of 1st Duke of Norfolk. [Burke's Peerage]

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    Catherine Howard, living 29 June 1478; m. (special dispensation 5 Oct 1448), as his 2nd wife, Sir Edward de Neville, KG, Lord Bergavenny, d. 18 Oct 1476. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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    He [Edward Nevill] m. 2ndly, by special dispensation 15 Oct 1448, Katharine, daughter of Sir Robert Howard, by Margaret, daughter of Thomas Mowbray, Duke of Norfolk; she, with whom he had cohabited in the lifetime of his 1st wife, was related to him in the third degree. He d. 18 Oct 1476. His widow was living 29 Jun 1478. [Complete Peerage I:30]

    Catherine married Edward 3Rd Baron NEVILLE, Kg, Of Bergavenny, Sir on 5 Oct 1448 in 2ND Wife - Special Dispensation Date. Edward was born about 1413 in Raby Castle, Raby With Keverstone, Staindrop, Durham, England; died on 18 Oct 1476 in Abergavenny, Monmouthshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 56. Anne NEVILLE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1457 in Raby Castle, Raby With Keverstone, Staindrop, Durham, England; died after 26 Feb 1480-1481.

  10. 23.  Elizabeth 6Th Baroness FERRERS, Of GrobyElizabeth 6Th Baroness FERRERS, Of Groby Descendancy chart to this point (10.Isabel3, 4.Thomas2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born about 1419 in Groby Old Hall, Leicestershire, England; died before 23 Jan 1482-1483 in Groby Castle, Groby, Leicestershire, England; was buried in St Philip and St James Churchyard, Groby, Leicestershire, England.

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    • FamilySearch ID: LTVZ-WP5
    • _UID: 35E92E16897540388E3C7D1D623B5091BA81

    Notes:

    BARONY OF FERRERS OF GROBY (VI) 1445

    ELIZABETH FERRERS, LADY FERRERS OF GROBY, granddaughter and heir, being only daughter and heir of Sir Henry FERRERS, by Isabel, his wife. She was aged 26 and more at her grandfather's death in 1445, and was then the wife of Sir Edward GREY.

    This Edward was a younger son of Reynold (GREY), LORD GREY OF RUTHIN, being his 1st son by his 2nd wife, Joan, daughter and heir of Sir William DE ASTELEY, of Astley, co. Warwick. He was aged 30 and more in 1445. The King took his homage, and he had livery of his wife's inheritance, 17 July 1445, the escheator in co. Leicester being ordered to take his fealty. He was summoned to Parliament from 14 December1446 to 26 May 1455, by writs directed Edwardo de Grey, with the additions, militi domino de Ferrariis de Groby [1446 to 1448/9), militi domini de Groby (1449 to 1452/3), and de Groby militi (1455). He was one of the Lords who swore allegiance to the King, in Parliament, 24 July 1455 (after the first battle of St. Albans). He died 18 December 1457. Lady Ferrers of Groby married 2ndly, before 2 May 1462, Sir John BOURGCHIER, a younger son of Henry, EARL OF ESSEX: he was a nephew of the Duke of York, and was with the Duke in the skirmish at Ludford, 12 October 1459, being, in consequence, one of those attainted in Parliament, for high treason, soon afterwards. She died on or just before 23 January 1482/3.

    Sir John Bourgchier married, 2ndly, before 6 July 1490, Elizabeth, widow of Sir Ralph ASSHETON, of Kingsnorth and Cheriton, Kent, knight for the King's body (who was living 14 April 1486), and, before that, widow of John KERIELLE, of Stockbury, Kent, to whom she had been 2nd wife: she was daughter of John CHICHELE, of Wimpole, co. Cambridge, Citizen and Chamberlain of London, by Margery, daughter of Thomas KNOLLES, Grocer, twice Mayor of London. He died in 1495, and was buried in Stebbing Church, but was probably transferred to Beeleigh Abbey. His widow died 2 April 1499. [Complete Peerage V:358-61, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    Elizabeth married Edward GREY, 6th Baron Ferrers Of Groby, Sir in 1st Husband. Edward (son of Reginald DE GREY and Joan ASTLEY) was born about 1415 in Ruthin, Denbighshire, Wales; died on 31 Jan 1457-1458 in Groby Old Hall, Leicestershire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Family/Spouse: Unknown. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  11. 24.  Maurice DE FERRERSMaurice DE FERRERS Descendancy chart to this point (10.Isabel3, 4.Thomas2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born in 1420 in Berkeley Castle, Gloucestershire, England; died in Sep 1506 in Berkeley Castle, Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England.

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    • FamilySearch ID: G7HY-QF3


  12. 25.  William de FERRERSWilliam de FERRERS Descendancy chart to this point (10.Isabel3, 4.Thomas2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born in 1421 in Halifax, Yorkshire, , England; died in 1472 in Halifax, Yorkshire, England.

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    • FamilySearch ID: G88L-KKZ


  13. 26.  Henry FERRERSHenry FERRERS Descendancy chart to this point (10.Isabel3, 4.Thomas2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born in 1423; died in 1472.

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    • FamilySearch ID: G8QW-RPK


  14. 27.  Elizabeth de BERKELEYElizabeth de BERKELEY Descendancy chart to this point (10.Isabel3, 4.Thomas2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born in 1425 in Berkeley Castle, Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England; died in 1482 in England; was buried in Gloucestershire, England.

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    • FamilySearch ID: LRJC-9MR


  15. 28.  Lord William BERKELEYLord William BERKELEY Descendancy chart to this point (10.Isabel3, 4.Thomas2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born in 1426 in Berkeley Castle, Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England; died on 14 Feb 1492 in Westminster, England; was buried in 1492 in Church Of The Augustine Friars, London, England.

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    • FamilySearch ID: K66Y-Z7K
    • Name: 8th\1St Earl Of NOTTINGHAM
    • _UID: 6EB264E8825F47C18DC7E82DF5229D3EB026
    • TitleOfNobility: 1490, England; William, Marques Berkeley, Earle Marshall of Nottingham, Great Marshall of England, Viscount Berkeley, Lord of Berkeley, Lord of Mowbray and Segrave, and Baron of Bedford.

    Notes:

    William de Berkeley, 2nd Lord (Baron) Berkeley and 1st and last Marquess of Berkeley, KB (1475), PC (1482/3); b. 1426; involved in a family dispute with Margaret, Countess of Shrewsbury and his great-uncle (the 5th) Lord Berkeley's other heirs general over the family estates, challenged by the Countess's grandson Viscount Lisle to single combat 20 Mar 1369/70 to settle the claim and did so by killing Lord Lisle, created 21 April 1481 Viscount Berkeley; on inheriting half the enormous estates of the Mowbray family he was further created 28 June 1483 Earl of Nottingham, Earl Marshal and Great Marshal of England Feb 1485/6; settled 1487 Berkeley Castle and most of his other properties on himself in tail general with remainder to Henry VII in tail male with further remainder to his own rightful heirs (it may well be the alienation of Berkeley Castle for several generations following his death that led to the failure of his immediate successors as Lord Berkeley to take their seats in Parliament), created 28 Jan 1488/9 Marquess of Berkeley, assumed between 1481 and 10 Feb 1484/5 the title of Viscount of Catherlough, co. Carlow; m. 1st 1466 (divorce 1467) Elizabeth West, daughter of 3rd Lord (Baron) West and 6th Lord (Baron) La Warre of the 1298/9 created; m. 2nd Nov 1468 Joan (d. 24 Feb 1484/5), daughter of Sir Thomas Strangeways by Katherine, daughter of 1st Earl of Westmorland; m. 3rd c 1486 Anne (m. 2nd Sir Thomas Brandon, KG, uncle of 1st Duke of Suffolk of the 1514 creation, and d. 10 Sep 1497), daughter of Sir Thomas Fiennes, and dsps 14 Feb 1491/2, when all his titles except the Barony of Berkeley expired, having had children (but none that surived him) by his 2nd wife. [Burke's Peerage]

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    BARONY OF BERKELEY (II) 1463

    EARLDOM OF NOTTINGHAM (VIII, 1) 1483 to 1492

    VISCOUNTCY OF BERKELEY (I) 1481

    MARQUESSATE OF BERKELEY (I) 1489 to 1492

    WILLIAM (DE BERKELEY), LORD BERKELEY, son and heir of the last Lord, by Isabel, his wife, who "may bee called William the Wast all." He was born at Berkeley Castle, 1426, was in the retinue of Cardinal Beaufort at Calais about 1438, and, on his return, while still under age, was knighted. He petitioned the Crown against the claims of Margaret, Countess of Shrewsbury, and other the heirs general of his great-uncle Thomas, to the Berkeley estates, which petition was pending when the Countess died in June 1468. By her grandson and heir, Thomas (Talbot), Viscount Lisle, he, though but 19, was challenged to settle the claim by combat, which took place 20 March 169/70, at Nibley Green, wherein the Viscount was slain. K.B. at the investiture of Edward, Prince of Wales, 18 April 1475. On the marriage of the heiress of the Mowbray family to the King's younger son, the Duke of York, he released his right to a reversion of a moiety of her estates if she died s.p. (which happened soon afterwards on 16 January 1477/8) to the King and his issue in tail male (which issue became extinct in 1483), receiving a discharge for debts amounting to ?34,000, and being, when the grant was ratified by Parliament, created VISCOUNT BERKELEY, 21 April 1481. P.C. 5 March 1482/3. The vast estates of the Mowbray family being divided between him and his cousin (the other coheir) Lord Howard, each was honoured with some of their extinct titles by the new King, Richard III. He was accordingly, on 28 June 1483, created EARL OF NOTTINGHAM, while, on the same day, Lord Howard was created Duke of Norfolk and Earl Marshal. At the coronation of Henry VII, 30 October 1485, he was Bearer of the Third Sword, having been created joint Lord High Steward and Earl Marshal for the occasion. On 19 February 1485/6 he was created EARL MARSHAL and GREAT MARSHAL OF ENGLAND, with remaider to the heirs male of his body. On 9 November 1487 he was joint Lord High Steward at the coronation of Elizabeth, the Queen Consort. On 10 December 1487, and subsequently, he settled the Castle and honour of Berkeley, the Barony of Bedford, the Barony of Gower, and the greater part of his manors and Iands in England, Wales, and Ireland, on himself in tail general, with remainder to the King in tail male, with remainder to his own right heirs. For this consideration he received permission (of which he freely availed himself) to alienate divers other Iands, and was created, 28 January 1488/9, MARQUESS OF BERKELEY.

    He married 1stly, [at the age of about 41) in 1466, Elizabeth, daughter of Reynold (WEST), LORD DE LA WARR by Margaret, daughter of ROBERT THORLEY. From her he was divorced shortly afterwards, against which she appealed to Pope Paul II, who issued letters thereon, 20 November 1467. He married, 2ndly, November 1468, Joan, widow of Sir William WILLOUGHBY, daughter of Sir Thomas STRANGWAYS, by Katharine, daughter of Ralph (Nevill] EARL OF WESTMORLAND. She died 24 February 1484/5, and was buried at St Augustine's Friars, London. He married 3rdly, about 1486, Anne, daughter of Sir Thomas FIENNES (son and heir apparent of Richard, LORD DACRE), by Alice, daughter of Henry (FITZ HUGH), LORD FITZ HUGH. He died s.p.s., 14 February 1491/2, in the Sanctuary at Westminster, in his 67th year, and was buried at St. Augustine's Friars afsd. not leaving sufficient assets to pay the arrears of wages due to his household. At his death the Marquessate of Berkeley and the Earldom of Nottingham became extinct. His widow married Sir Thomas BRANDON, K.G., whose will, dated 11 January 1509/10, was proved 11May 1510. She died 10 September 1497, and was buried at St. George's Chapel. Windsor. [Complete Peerage II: 133-35, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    Note: CP IV:9 states that Anne's father was John, not Thomas (same person, just wrong name).

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    William Lord Berkeley, Earl Marshal of England (-1492)

    James and Isabel's eldest son, William (the Waster) accumulated many riches and honours. Of his inheritance from his mother's family he gave over 50 manors to King Henry VII.

    William was challenged to battle by Viscount Lisle, heir of the Earl of Shrewsbury. In the last battle between private hosts on English soil, the battle of Nibbley Green, the Viscount was defeated and killed by William's superior forces, including archers from the forest of Dean. William's forces rode at once to Wooton, to sack the place. The Viscount's widow promptly miscarried, and so the direct Talbot line ended. This finally ended the dispute between the two families.

    William became Lord Berkeley, Earl Marshal of England, Earl of Nottingham, Viscount Dursley, Marquis of Berkeley, and probably lots of other things as well. He outlived his three children, but then disinherited his brother because he had "married beneath him"; an Alderman's daughter named Isabel Meade. He left Berkeley Castle and its estates to the crown for 'entail male', which meant that only with the extinction of the Royal male line on the death of King Edward VI (-1553) did the Castle revert once more to the Berkeley line.

    My own person feelings about this man are that given the events surrounding the end of the Plantagenet line, and the start of the Tudors, with Henry VII's victory at Bosworth, and his subsequent ruthless purging of all those who stood in his way, it would not be surprising to find that William found himself with little choice but to make over the bulk of his wealth to the King's line.

    William married Elizabeth WEST in 1466 in 1st Wife - Divorced By 1467. Elizabeth (daughter of Reynold 3Rd Baron WEST, 6th Baron De La Warre and Margaret THORLEY) was born before 1433 in Oakhanger, Hampshire, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    William married Joan STRANGEWAYS in Nov 1468 in 2ND Wife. Joan (daughter of Thomas STRANGWAYS, Esq. and Katherine NEVILLE) was born about 1427 in Harlsey Castle, Yorkshire, England; died on 24 Feb 1483; was buried in 1485 in Austin Friars, London, Middlesex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 57. Thomas BERKELEY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in Mar 1469 in Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England; died after Jun 1475; was buried in Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England.
    2. 58. Katherine BERKELEY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1474 in Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England; died in 1476 in Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England; was buried in Church, Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England.

    William married Anne De FIENNES about 1486 in 3rd Wife. Anne was born about 1468 in Herstmonceux Castle, Hailsham, Sussex, England; died on 10 Sep 1497 in St. George's Chapel, Windsor, Berkshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  16. 29.  James BERKELEY, IIIJames BERKELEY, III Descendancy chart to this point (10.Isabel3, 4.Thomas2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born in 1428 in Gloucestershire, England; died in Feb 1452 in Castillon, France; was buried in Berkeley Castle, Gloucestershire, England, United Kingdom.

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    • FamilySearch ID: LJ1T-R97


  17. 30.  Maurice BERKELEY OF THORNBURY, Esq.Maurice BERKELEY OF THORNBURY, Esq. Descendancy chart to this point (10.Isabel3, 4.Thomas2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born about 1435 in Berkeley Castle, Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England; died in Sep 1506 in Mangotsfield, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England; was buried in Austin Friar's, London, England.

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    • FamilySearch ID: KZPJ-VC3
    • Name: The Lawyer
    • Residence: Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England
    • _UID: 67D81C3329614BBBB30D83F8A3891D11B31E
    • Conveyance of property: 1471, Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England; Philip Meade, Burgess of Bristol, and Richard his son and heir conveyed to Maurice and his wife Isabel (daughter of the said Philip), a tenement in Thornbury, Gloucestershire called Marshallis place with close and garden attached."
    • succeeded to the title of 3rd Lord Berkeley: 14 Feb 1491

    Notes:

    Note: Though Maurice Berkeley inherited the title of Baron from his elder brother William, the 2nd Baron, William had given Berkeley Castle to the crown: Henry VII (and his male heirs). The family did not get the Castle back until after the death of Edward VI of England in 1553. Some say that William gave the Castle and most of the rest of the huge Berkeley estate away partly because he disapproved of his nephew & heir, Maurice's marriage to Isabel Mead, as it was below his station.

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    Maurice Berkeley, de jure 3rd Lord (Baron ) Berkeley (after his elder brother William, the 2nd Lord and 1st and last Marquess Berkeley whose male children all died without issue); Knight of the Body to Edward IV; married 1465 Isabel (died after 29 May 1514), daughter of Philip Mead, of Mead's Place, Wraxall, Somerset, Alderman and thrice Mayor of Bristol, and died Sep 1506. [Burke's Peerage]

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    Maurice Berkeley, b. c 1435, age 56 in 1492, d. Sep 1506, age 70 years, 2nd son, Lord Berkeley; m. 1465 Isabel Mead, d. Coventry, aft. May 1514, age 70, daughter of Philip Mead, Mayor of Bristol. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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    BARONY of BERKELEY (III) 1492

    MAURICE [BERKELEY] de jure [apparently] LORD BERKELEY [1421] brother of the whole blood and heir, who "may bee called Maurice: the Lawier " inasmuch as though totally disinherited by his brother, and though 56 years of age at his brother's death, he recovered, within 7 years, upwards of 50 manors and other lands, the alienation of which had been effected illegally. He had been Knight of the body to Edward IV.

    He married, in his 30th year (1465), Isabel (at that time a widow with 3 children who all died young), only daughter of Philip MEAD, of Mead's Place, in Wraxall, Somerset, Alderman, and three times (1458-59, 1461-62, 1468-69) Mayor of Bristol, by Isabel, his wife. She became heir to her brother Thomas Mead, inheriting lands at Thornbury, co. Gloucester, and at Wraxall, Ashton, Bedminster, and Tickeiiham, Somerset. He died September 1506, aged 70, and was buried at Austin Friars, London. His widow died after 29 May 1514, at the same age of 70, at Coventry, and was buried with him. [Complete Peerage II:135, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Berkeley,_3rd_Baron_Berkeley
    "Because of his marriage to Isabel Meade, the daughter of a Bristol alderman, who was considered to be below his social status, Maurice was disinherited by his elder brother William Berkeley, 1st Marquess of Berkeley, 2nd Baron Berkeley (1426? 1492), who died without surviving progeny. As he never therefore possessed Berkeley Castle, he had no claim to the ancient feudal barony of Berkeley, which was dependant on landholdings."

    The late lord's brother, now stripped of the ancient honours and possessions of his forefathers, (though he continued through his life to be styled by courtesy Lord Berkeley,) resided, as has been stated, at Thornbury, where, of his own and his wife's, he had a fair estate.

    As soon as the inquisitions after his brother's death were returned into Chancery, Maurice commenced proceedings to recover from the Crown some of the manors which the Marquess had given away, being advised that such alienations were illegal, and contrary to some old settlements and entails. In these litigations he was generally successful, the late Marquess, in his anxiety to barter his lands for honours and patronage, having often overlooked the nature of the titles by which he held them. Maurice's first success was the recovery of the manor of Sages in Slimbridge, consisting of seven tenements and 290 acres of land, and he entered into possession and held his first court there in 1499. Many other similar suits followed, with the like success, and while these were going on the manor and borough of Tetbury, and several others descended to him as one of the heirs of the lord Breouse. In 1505 he claimed and recovered the advowson of the Church of Wotton-under-Edge, but immediately made it over to the Abbey of Tewkesbury. He also commenced a suit to recover the advowson of Slimbridge, held by Magdalen College, Oxford, which was settled by a compromise. The College retaining the advowson but paying him a sum of money, and undertaking to remember him in their prayers.

    In his journeys to and from London, and when visiting his manor of Callowden, near Coventry, finding that heand his suite were not received at the Monastery of Combe, in Warwickshire, with the honour and respect due to him as descendant from one of its founders, Maurice exhibited a bill in Chancery against the Abbot and Monks, claiming his rights in respect of his descent from Thomas Mowbray, Duke of Norfolk, their founder, and obtained an acknowledgement of his claim.

    Maurice died in 1506, and was buried in the Church of the Augustine Friars, in London. His eldest son, Maurice, succeeded him.

    (Find A Grave Memorial# 67514712)
    SIR MAURICE BERKELEY de jure 3rd BARON BERKELEY "the Lawier" was born about 1436 of Berkeley Castle, Gloucestershire, England, to Sir James de Berkeley, "The Just," 1st Baron Berkeley (1394-1463) and Isabella Mowbray (1396-1452.) He married Lady Isabel Meade, about 1465 of Berkeley Castle, Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England.


    BERKELEY CASTLE, GLOUCESTERSHIRE, ENGLAND

    Maurice Berkely was disinherited by his brother, and though 56 years of age at his brother's death, was able to recover, within seven years, upwards of 50 manors and other lands that had been alienated illegally.

    Maurice Berkeley died in September 1506 of Berkeley Castle, Gloucestershire, England, age 70. He is buried at Church of the Augustine Friars, London.

    LADY ISABEL MEADE was born about 1444 of Bristol, Gloucestershire, England, to Sir Philip Meade (1415-1471) and Lady Isabel Sharp (1420-1444). She married Maurice Berkeley about 1465 of Berkeley Castle, Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England.

    Isabel inherited lands at Thornbury, Gloucestersire, and at Wraxall, Ashton, Bedminister, and Tickenham, Somerset from her brother, Thomas.

    Isabel Meade passed away 29 May 1514, at Coventry, Warwickshire, England, age 30. She was buried at Augustine Friars Church, London, England.


    Children of Maurice Berkeley and Isabel Meade:

    1. Maurice Berkeley, 4th Baron de Berkeley (1467)
    2.Thomas de Berkeley, 5th Baron de Berkeley (1472-)
    3.James Berkeley of Thornbury
    4.Anne DE BERKELEY (1474-1523)


    Maurice married Isabel MEAD in 1465 in Berkeley Castle, Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England. Isabel was born about 1444 in Mead's Place, Wraxell, Somerset, England; died after 29 May 1514 in Coventry, Warwickshire, England; was buried in Austin Friar's, London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 59. Maurice "The Courtier" 4Th Baron BERKELEY, Sir  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1467 in Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England; died on 12 Sep 1523 in Calais, France (Dsp Legit); was buried in Trinity Chapel, Calais, France.
    2. 60. Katherine BERKELEY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1469 in Stoke Gifford, Chipping Sodbury, Gloucestershire, England; died on 6 Sep 1526 in Dartford, Kent, England, United Kingdom; was buried in 1526 in Dartford Priory (Defunct), Dartford Dartford Borough Kent, England, United Kingdom.
    3. 61. Thomas "Sheepmaster" 5Th Baron BERKELEY, Sir  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1472 in Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England; died on 22 Jan 1532-1533 in Mangotsfield, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England; was buried in St Augustines, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England.
    4. 62. Anne De BERKELEY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1474 in Mangotsfield, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England; and died.
    5. 63. Joyce BERKELEY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1476 in Berkeley Castle, Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England; died in 1481.
    6. 64. James BERKELEY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1476 in Berkeley Castle, Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England; died after 1515.
    7. 65. Mary "Anne" BERKELEY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1511 in Madresfield, , England; died in 1585 in Gloucestershire, England; was buried in 1585 in Rendcombe, Gloucestershire, England.

  18. 31.  Thomas de BERKELEYThomas de BERKELEY Descendancy chart to this point (10.Isabel3, 4.Thomas2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born in 1437 in Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England; died on 2 Jul 1484 in Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England; was buried in 1484 in Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England.

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    • FamilySearch ID: LCTZ-T17


  19. 32.  Elizabeth BARKHOUSEElizabeth BARKHOUSE Descendancy chart to this point (10.Isabel3, 4.Thomas2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born about 1442 in England; died on 30 Jul 1477 in England; was buried in Aug 1477 in England.

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    • FamilySearch ID: GSR6-VPD


  20. 33.  Henry GREY, Of Powis, Count Of TankarvilleHenry GREY, Of Powis, Count Of Tankarville Descendancy chart to this point (12.John3, 5.Joan2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born about 1419 in Heaton Castle, Wark-On-Tweed, Northumberland, England; died on 13 Jan 1449-1450 in Powis, Montgomeryshire, Wales.

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    • _UID: 6DB0BBA469634972A8CB6E824B36A05CE30C

    Notes:

    Henry de Grey, Earl of Tancarville, age 1 1/2+ at father's death, d. 13 Jan 1449/50; m. as 1st husband, Antigone, only child (bastard) of Humphrey, Duke of Gloucester, b. 1391, d. 23 Feb 1447, son of King Henry IV of England and Mary Bohun, and grandson of John, Duke of Lancaster and Blanche of Lancaster. [Ancestral Roots]

    Note: Tanquerville is in France (captured territory), and has very little to do with their "permanent" family holdings.

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    HENRY GRAY, COUNT OF TANCARVILLE, son and heir, aged 1 1/2 and more at his father's death. He was knighted on Whitsunday 1426. On 5 December 1441, having proved his age in co. Salop, he had livery of the lands of his inheritance, his homage and fealty being respited. He married Antigone, illegitimate daughter of Humphrey, DUKE OF GLOUCESTER.(a) He died 13 January 1449/50. [Complete Peerage VI:138-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    (a) On 3 January 1434/5 the marriage of Henry, son and heir of John Gray kt. and Joan his wife, was granted to Humphrey, Duke of Gloucester, for ?800. (Patent Roll, 13 Hen. VI, m. 27).

    Note: The knighthood seems a little early (age 8 or so), but Humphrey, Duke of Gloucester got his knighthood very early as well.

    Henry married Antigone PLANTAGENET after 3 Jan 1434-1435 in 1st Husband. Antigone was born before 1421 in Westminster, London, Middlesex, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 66. Elizabeth GREY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1440 in Pontesbury, Montgomeryshire, Wales; died after 1501.

  21. 34.  Elizabeth (Anne) De OGLEElizabeth (Anne) De OGLE Descendancy chart to this point (13.Maud3, 5.Joan2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born about 1404 in Kirkley, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England; and died.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: E046018D2FD84CEE84BE8A77D0DD4AD60545

    Notes:

    Elizabeth Ogle, m. (1) dispensation 13 Jan 1411/12, Sir William Heron, Knight, of Ford, b. Nov 1400, d. 1425, knighted Feb 1421/2, Justice of Northamptonshire 1422, Sheriff of same 1425; m. (2) Sir John Middleton. Dispensation 13 Jan 1411/12 permits Elizabeth, daughter of Robert Ogle, to marry her cousin, William Heron. [Ancestral Roots]

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    Elizabeth Ogle; m. (1) 13 Jan 1411/12 Sir William Heron, Knight, of Ford, b. 1400, d. 1425; m. (2) Sir John Middleton. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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    He [William Heron] married (dispensation 13 January 1411/2, the parties being related in the fourth degree) Anne, daughter of Sir Robert OGLE. He died s.p.m., 1 September 1425. [Complete Peerage VI:487-8, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    Elizabeth married William HERON, Of Croydon, Sir on 13 Jan 1411-1412 in 1st Husband 1St Wife - Dispensation Date. William was born in Nov 1400 in Croydon, Cambridgeshire, England; died on 1 Sep 1425. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 67. Elizabeth HERON  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1422 in Croydon, Cambridgeshire, England; and died.

    Elizabeth married John MIDDLETON, Sir after 1425 in 2ND Husband. John was born about 1400 in Belsay, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  22. 35.  Margery (Margaret) De OGLEMargery (Margaret) De OGLE Descendancy chart to this point (13.Maud3, 5.Joan2, 1.Elizabeth1) was born about 1406 in Kirkley, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England; and died.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 212B08AF9E93482592B954B801B2275B2DB0

    Notes:

    Margaret Ogle; m. Sir Robert Harbotel, d. 14 Mar 1443. [Magna Charta Sureties]

    Margery married Robert HARBOTTLE, Of Preston, Esq in Jun 1424 in 1st Husband. Robert was born about 1400 in Preston, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England; died on 14 Mar 1442-1443. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 68. Bertram HARBOTTLE, Of Beamish & Tanfield, Esq  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1426 in Horton, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England; died on 2 Aug 1462 in Beamish & Tanfield, Durham, England.

    Margery married Nicholas BELLINGHAM on 14 Nov 1443 in 2ND Husband. Nicholas was born about 1406 in Burnside, Kendal, Westmorland, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]