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Mary De ROS

Mary De ROS

Female Abt 1253 - Bef 1326  (~ 73 years)

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  Mary De ROSMary De ROS was born about 1253 in Helmsley Castle, North Riding Yorkshire, England; died before 23 May 1326.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 8EE14AE965C34A45AE0D888D6AD30868D6B3

    Mary married William V De BRAOSE, Lord Of Bramber & Gower about 1271 in 3rd Wife. William (son of John De BRAOSE, Lord Of Bramber & Gower and Margaret Verch LLEWELYN) was born before 15 Jul 1224 in Bramber, Sussex, England; died before 6 Jan 1290-1291 in Gower, Glamorganshire, Wales. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Piers (Peter) De BRAOSE, Of Tetbury, Sir  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1274 in Gower, Glamorganshire, Wales; died on 1 Feb 1311-1312 in Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England.
    2. 3. Margaret De BRAOSE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1285 in Bramber, Sussex, England; died before 1319.
    3. 4. William De BRAOSE, Of Wiston  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1286 in Bamber, Sussex, England; died in 1360 in Wiston, Thakeham, Sussex, England.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Piers (Peter) De BRAOSE, Of Tetbury, SirPiers (Peter) De BRAOSE, Of Tetbury, Sir Descendancy chart to this point (1.Mary1) was born about 1274 in Gower, Glamorganshire, Wales; died on 1 Feb 1311-1312 in Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: FD97F253CA0E423F8D0AEF2EB7B672CF94D8

    Family/Spouse: Agnes De CLIFFORD. Agnes was born about 1274 in Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England; died before 1332. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 5. Thomas 1St\Last Baron De BRAOSE, Of Tetbury  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 8 Sep 1301 in Maningford Bruce, Wiltshire, England; died between 9 and 16 Jun 1361 in Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England.
    2. 6. Mary De BRAOSE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1304 in Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England; died before 15 Jun 1362.

  2. 3.  Margaret De BRAOSEMargaret De BRAOSE Descendancy chart to this point (1.Mary1) was born about 1285 in Bramber, Sussex, England; died before 1319.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 9B88B68AB9FA4988921B1DCC67584A2CB205

    Notes:

    He [Ralph de Camoys] married, 1stly, in 1303, before 25 June, Margaret, daughter of William, 1st Lord BREWES, by his 3rd wife, Mary, daughter of Robert De Ros, of Helmsley. [Complete Peerage II:507, XIV:138, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    Margaret married Ralph III 1St Baron De CAMOYS, Of Flockthorpe before 25 Jun 1303 in 1st Wife. Ralph was born about 1283 in Bourn, Cambridgeshire, England; died before Jun 1336 in Flockthorpe Manor, Hardingham, Norfolk, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  3. 4.  William De BRAOSE, Of WistonWilliam De BRAOSE, Of Wiston Descendancy chart to this point (1.Mary1) was born about 1286 in Bamber, Sussex, England; died in 1360 in Wiston, Thakeham, Sussex, England.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 050402EF8E1342799648792EF6BD39AB72A9

    Notes:

    Youngest son, Eldest brother was also William. [Magna Charta Sureties]

    Family/Spouse: Eleanor De BAVANT, Heiress Of Wiston. Eleanor was born about 1298 in Wiston, Thakeham, Sussex, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 7. Peter De BRAOSE, Of Wiston, Sir  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1320 in Wiston, Thakeham, Sussex, England; died about 1377 in Wiston, Thakeham, Sussex, England.


Generation: 3

  1. 5.  Thomas 1St\Last Baron De BRAOSE, Of TetburyThomas 1St\Last Baron De BRAOSE, Of Tetbury Descendancy chart to this point (2.Piers2, 1.Mary1) was born on 8 Sep 1301 in Maningford Bruce, Wiltshire, England; died between 9 and 16 Jun 1361 in Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Thomas 1St\Last Baron De BREWES
    • _UID: 79A2F286191E41D6BE861938A60A9FD79CB1

    Notes:

    1st and last (no descendant of his was summoned to Parliament in this so-called peerage) Lord (Baron) Braouse/Brewes/Brewose. [Burke's Peerage]

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    Thomas (DE BREWES), LORD BREWES) m. Beatrice, widow of Edward, son and heir apparent of Thomas (DE BROTHERTON), EARL OF NORFOLK, and daughter of Roger (DE MORTIMER), EARL OF MARCH. [Complete Peerage XI:477, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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    BARONY OF BREWOSE, BREOUSE, or BREWES (I)

    Sir Thomas de BREWOSE or BREOUSE of Manningford Bruce, Wilts, Tetbury, co. Gloucester, Weaverthorpe, co. York, Chesworth, Sedgwick, and Bidlington, Sussex, Bookham and Bramley, Surrey, son and heir of Sir Piers DE BREWOSE, of Tetbury, by Agnes, widow of Sir Henry Husee of Harting, Sussex, etc. [died 27 August 1290], born 8 September 130I. He succeeded his father in 1311/2. He was summoned for Military Service, 27 March 1335 and 12 November 1342, to six Councils, 25 February 1341/2 to 10 October 1359, and to Parliament, 20 November 1348, by writs directed Thome de Breus, Brewes, or Brewosa, by which last named writ he is held to have become LORD BREWOSE, but none of his descendants were ever summoned to Parliament.

    He married, circa August 1334, Beatrice, widow of Edward (s. and h. ap. of Thomas OF BROTHERTON), EARL OF NORFOLK), daughter of Roger (DE MORTIMER), EARL OF MARCH. by Joan, daughter and coheir, eventually heir, of Piers DE GENEVILLE, of Ludlow, Salop, 2nd but 1st surviving son and heir apparent of Geoffrey, 1st Lord Geneville. He died 9 or 16 June 1361. His widow died 16 October 1383. [Complete Peerage II:308, XIV:111, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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    The following is a post-em from Curt Hofemann, [email protected]:

    name: Thomas de Brewse of Tetbury [Ref: Paget p19]

    His IPM reveals that both he and Mary, Countess of Norfolk had an interest in the same manor of Boseham, Sussex. Thomas de Brewes' wife, Beatrice de Mortimer, had received it as a gift for life from Thomas de Brotherton.

    Beatrice and Thomas held two parts, and Mary held a third part in dower.
    CIPM, v.XI, p.28
    "THOMAS DE BREWOSA, or DE BREOUSA, or DE BREWES, knight SUSSEX.
    Inq taken at Cicestre, 20 September, 35 Edward III [1361]
    Boseham. Two parts of the manor, held in right of Beatrice his wife, who had the manor for her life by gift of Thomas de Brothertone, earl of Norfolk and Marshal of England. The whole manor is held of the king in chief by service of two knights' fees. The third part is in the hand of the countess Marshal by way of dower after the death of the earl Marshal her husband." [Ref: Rosie Bevan 28 Apr 2002 message to Gen-Medieval]

    Regards,
    Curt

    Thomas married Beatrice De MORTIMER about Aug 1334 in 2ND Husband. Beatrice (daughter of Roger De MORTIMER, Sir/1St Earl Marche/8Th Baron and Joan De GENEVILLE, Lady) was born about 1318 in Wigmore, Ludlow, Herefordshire, England; died on 16 Oct 1383. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 8. Beatrice De BRAOSE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1344 in Maningford Bruce, Wiltshire, England; and died.

  2. 6.  Mary De BRAOSEMary De BRAOSE Descendancy chart to this point (2.Piers2, 1.Mary1) was born about 1304 in Tetbury, Gloucestershire, England; died before 15 Jun 1362.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: F8B8BE6904E24C5B897B416A737A96F88EAD

    Notes:

    He [Thomas de Brotherton] married, 2ndly, Mary, widow of Sir Ralph DE COBHAM [LORD COBHAM, died Febbruary 1325/6], sister of Sir Thomas DE BREWES (or BREWOSE) [LORD BREWES], and daughter of Sir Piers DE BREWES, of Tetbury. He died s.p.m.s., in the late summer of 1338, and was buried in the abbey of Bury St. Edmunds. Under the charter of creation the Marshalcy (limited to heirs male of his body) reverted to the Crown. His widow died between 17 April 1361 and 15 June 1362. [Complete Peerage IX:596-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    Mary married Ralph 1St Baron De COBHAM, Sir in 1st Husband. Ralph was born about 1276 in Cobham, Strood, Kent, England; died on 5 Feb 1325-1326. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Mary married Thomas De BROTHERTON, Earl Of Norfolk after 1330 in 2ND Husband, 2ND Wife. Thomas was born on 1 Jun 1300 in Brotherton, Yorkshire, England; died about Aug 1338 in Norfolk, England (Dspms); was buried in Abbey Of Bury St. Edmunds, Suffolk, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  3. 7.  Peter De BRAOSE, Of Wiston, SirPeter De BRAOSE, Of Wiston, Sir Descendancy chart to this point (4.William2, 1.Mary1) was born about 1320 in Wiston, Thakeham, Sussex, England; died about 1377 in Wiston, Thakeham, Sussex, England.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 126DBCF9D4364218AC17DE211685604398E2

    Notes:

    Sir Peter de Braose of Westneston or Wiston, Sussex, living 1373, d. c 1377; m. by 1344 Joan, living 1378, daughter of Nicholas de Percy by Joan, daughter of Walter Follot of Whiteford, co. Devon and Melbury Turberville, Dorset. [Magna Charta Sureties]

    Peter married Joan De PERCY before 1344. Joan was born about 1323 in Kildale, North Riding Yorkshire, England; died after 1373 in Wiston, Thakeham, Sussex, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 9. Beatrix De BRAOSE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1355 in Wiston, Thakeham, Sussex, England; died on 20 Apr 1440 in Shirley, Ashbourne, Derbyshire, England.


Generation: 4

  1. 8.  Beatrice De BRAOSEBeatrice De BRAOSE Descendancy chart to this point (5.Thomas3, 2.Piers2, 1.Mary1) was born about 1344 in Maningford Bruce, Wiltshire, England; and died.

    Other Events:

    • Name: Beatrice De BREWES
    • _UID: DC28C943563944B8B5324E4A6C4A7CCB17B5

    Notes:

    Beatrice de Brewes, daughter of 1st and last (no descendant of his was summoned to Parliament in this so-called peerage) Lord (Baron) Braouse/Brewes/Brewose. [Burke's Peerage]

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    He [William de Say] married Beatrice, daughter and in her issue heir of Thomas (DE BREWES), LORD BREWES) by Beatrice, widow of Edward, son and heir apparent of Thomas (DE BROTHERTON), EARL OF NORFOLK, and daughter of Roger (DE MORTIMER), EARL OF MARCH. He died before 7 August 1375. [Complete Peerage XI:477, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

    Family/Spouse: William VII 3Rd Baron De SAY, Sir. William was born on 17 Jun 1340 in Birling, Malling, Kent, England; died before 7 Aug 1375 in Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 10. John 4Th Baron De SAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1373 in Sawbridgeworth, Hertfordshire, England; died on 27 Jul 1382.

  2. 9.  Beatrix De BRAOSEBeatrix De BRAOSE Descendancy chart to this point (7.Peter3, 4.William2, 1.Mary1) was born about 1355 in Wiston, Thakeham, Sussex, England; died on 20 Apr 1440 in Shirley, Ashbourne, Derbyshire, England.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: LYY4-Q1V
    • _UID: 79231AD60A064180BF88AD175AF610874FCD

    Notes:

    Beatrix, sister and heir of John de Braose of West Neston, Sussex. [Burke's Peerage]

    Beatrix married Sir Hugh SHIRLEY, Mp in 1385 in Wiston, Sussex, England. Hugh (son of Sir Thomas SHIRLEY, Mp and Isabel BASSET) was born about 1350 in Eatington, Stratford-Upon-Avon, Warwickshire, England; died on 22 Jul 1403 in Battle Of Shrewsbury, Shropshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 11. Hugh SHIRLEY, Of Eatington, Sir Knight  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1369 in Eatington, Stratford-Upon-Avon, Warwickshire, England; and died.
    2. 12. Joan SHIRLEY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1375 in of Wiston, Sussex, England; and died.
    3. 13. Isabella SHIRLEY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1376 in Shirley, Derbyshire, England; died in 1438 in Polesworth, Warwickshire, England; was buried in St Oswald Churchyard; North Transept, Ashbourne, Derbyshire, England.
    4. 14. Elizabeth SHIRLEY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1378 in Wiston, Sussex, England; and died.
    5. 15. Nicholaia SHIRLEY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1386 in of, Wiston, Sussex, England; and died.
    6. 16. Sir Ralph SHIRLEY  Descendancy chart to this point was born on 23 Apr 1391 in Ashbourne, Derbyshire, England; died in 1443 in France.
    7. 17. Joan SHIRLEY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1400 in Warwickshire, England; was christened in in Staffordshire, England; died in 1467 in Warwickshire, England, United Kingdom; was buried in Staffordshire, England.