John TUCHET, Of Markheaton, Sir

Other Events:

• Name: John TOUCHET
• _UID: DCA429EA4A9345B8A442D74A4AAD68D0A3A8

Notes:

John Tuchet, slain off La Rochelle 23 June 1372; said to have m. Margaret, daughter of Sir Roger Mortimer, 2nd Earl of March, d. bef. 3 Nov 1405. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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JOHN TUCHET, son and heir, was a minor at his father's death. He served under the Earl of Pembroke in Poitou and Anjou in 1369, being present at the affair of Puirenon in that year; and in June 1372 he sailed with the Earl from England with reinforcements for Aquitaine. He married, before 1371, Maud. He was slain in the naval battle off La Rochelle, 23 June 1372, when the Earl of Pembroke's ship was captured by the Spaniards, the Earl himself being taken prisoner. His widow married, before 31 August 1381, John DABRIDGEC0URT, and died before 3 November 1405. [Complete Peerage XII/2:59-60, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

John married Margaret (Margery\Maud) MORTIMER before 1371 in 1st Husband. Margaret was born in 1352 in Wigmore, Ludlow, Herefordshire, England; died before 3 Nov 1405. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: John 4Th Baron De Audley TOUCHET
• _UID: 000DE3755805465CB0C6B19F30B2235A890E

Notes:

Sir John Tuchet, b. 23 April 1371, d. 19 Dec 1408, 2nd Lord Tuchet, MP 1406-1408; m. Isabel, living 3 May 1405. [Magna Charta Sureties]

Note: I think that Burke's keeps the numbering consistant with the original Baron Audley, because they name the next generation "James Touchet/Tuchet, 5th Baron Audley", whereas MCS and some others start the numbering over when the Tuchet/Touchet family took over the Barony. I will stick with Burke's when it comes to titles.

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BARONY OF TUCHET (I)

JOHN TUCHET, son and heir, born 23 April 1371, was one of the 3 coheirs of Nicholas, Lord Audley, who died s.p. 22 July 1391. He was appointed in 1394 on a Commission of Enquiry and in 1401 was a Commissioner of Peace in Derbyshire. During the Welsh wars against Owen Glendower he was ordered to muster at Hereford, 27 August 1404 and was in the Prince of Wales's muster at Shrewsbury, 1403, with 20 squires and 10 archers. After that battle (21 July) he was appointed, 23 July 1403, with 4 others, to govern the marches towards Wales and resist Glendower; and was also Keeper of Llandovery Castle, 8 September 1403. He was summoned to Parliament on 20 October 1403, by writ directed Johanni Tochet, and from 25 August 1404 to 26 August 1407, by writs directed Johanni Tuchet, whereby he is held to have become LORD TUCHET or TOCHET. However, he was never so called but was frequently styled LORD AUDLEY in official documents. He was joint Keeper (with the Earl of Warwick) of Brecknock Castle, 24 October 1403-19 February 1403/4, and sole Keeper thereof, 14 October 1404. On 10 October 1404 he was at Coventry with 30 squires and 60 archers; and he was present at the surrender of Aberystwith, 12 September 1407. He married Elizabeth (or Isabel) and died 19 December 1408, aged 37. His widow, Elizabeth, was to be assigned dower, 3 May 1409, but nothing was done. [Complete Peerage XII/2:60-1, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

BARONY OF AUDLEY (IV)

JOHN TUCHET, great nephew and coheir, being son and heir of John Tuchet, who was son and heir of Sir John Tuchet of Markeaton, co. Derby, (slain at Rochelle, 1371), by Joan, sister of the whole blood of Nicholas, 3rd Lord Audley. He was born 23 April 1371, and was 20 years old at the death of his said great uncle, in 1391, to whom he was found one of his next heirs. He was in the Welsh wars against Glendower, and was summoned to Parliament as a Baron [LORD AUDLEY] 20 Oct 1403 to 26 Aug 1407, the writs being probably terminated in his favour; the writ was, however, directed (merely) Johanni Tuchet (LORD TUCHET?). According to modern doctrine, which was not then invented, the issue of a writ would probably be regarded as terminating the abeyance (then unknown) in the Barony of Audley. He married, Isabel, who was living June 1405. He died in December 1408, aged about 38. [Complete Peerage I:340-41 XIV:51, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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In a post to SGM, 2 Apr 2002, Douglas Richardson provides an entry from his forthcoming book "Plantagenet Ancestry" which identifies John's wife Elizabeth:

In answer to your question, the wife of John Tuchet, Knt., 4th Lord Audley, was Elizabeth Stafford, a hitherto unidentified daughter of Humphrey Stafford, Knt., of Amblecote, Bramshall, and Perton, co. Stafford, by his lst wife, Alice, daughter and heiress of John Grenville, Knt. Elizabeth Stafford has Carolingian ancestry through her paternal grandmother, Margaret (Stafford) Stafford, who was a daughter of Ralph Stafford, lst Earl of Stafford, by his lst wife, Katherine Hastang.

Complete Peerage sub Audley states that John Tuchet's wife's given was Isabel, but the records I have found of this woman all call her Elizabeth. This includes her assignment of dower and her inquisition post mortem. Exactly why the editor picked the name Isabel is a complete mystery to me.

Below please find a record of John Tuchet, Knt., and his wife, Elizabeth Stafford, which is taken from my forthcoming book, Plantagenet Ancestry, 3rd edition.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

E-mail: [email protected]

I. JOHN TUCHET, Knt., of Ashwell, Markeaton, Leegomery, etc., and Buglawton and Newhall, co. Chester, Keeper of Llandovery Castle, Keeper of Brecknock Castle, son and heir, born 23 Apr. 1371. He was co-heir in 1391 to his great-uncle, Nicholas Audley, 3rd Lord Audley, by which he inherited a 1/3 share in the Audley barony, including the Castle and lordship of Heleigh, co. Stafford, and the Castle and lordship of Newport (in Camois), co. Pembroke. He married before 1398 ELIZABETH STAFFORD, daughter of Humphrey Stafford, Knt., of Amblecote, Bramshall, and Perton, co. Stafford, by his 1st wife, Alice, daughter and heiress of John Grenville, Knt., of Southwick. They had three children, James [5th Lord Audley], Margaret (wife of John Luttrell), and Elizabeth (wife of John Baskerville, Knt., of Eardisley, co. Hereford). He was in the Welsh wars against Owen Glendower. He was summoned to Parliament on 20 Oct. 1403 by writ directed Johanni Tochet, and from 25 Aug. 1404 to 26 Aug. 1407 by writs directed Johanni Tuchet. He was frequently styled Lord Audley in official documents, although never summoned to Parliament as such. JOHN TUCHET, 4th Lord Audley, died 19 Dec. 1408. In 1409 the King requested that his widow?s brother, Humphrey Stafford the younger, deliver her son and heir to his custody. In 1436 Thomas Stawell sued Elizabeth, late the wife of John Tuchet, Knt., her son, James Tuchet, Knt., her brother, John Stafford, Bishop of Bath and Wells, and William Lee for the manors of Nether Stowey, Honeybare, etc., Somerset. She died 1446-7 (date of her Inq.p.m.).

References:

Ormerod 1 (1819): 489, 3: 23-24.
Papal Letters, 1404-1415 (1904), pg. 16.
C.P. 1 (1910): 340-341.
Col. G.D. Stawell A Quantock Family (1910), pp. 42-43.
Genealogist n.s. 36 (1920): 9-22.
Cal. Close Rolls, 1405-1419 (1931), pp. 438,483.
VCH Rutland 2 (1935): 108-109.
VCH Shropshire 8 (1968): 228-229.
C.P. 12 Pt. 2 (1959): 60-61 (sub Tuchet).
VCH Shropshire 11 (1985): 219.
Bodine (1995), pg. 31.
Genealogist n.s. 18: 26.

John married Elizabeth (Isabel) De STAFFORD before 1398. Elizabeth was born about 1375 in Amblecote, Stourbridge, Staffordshire, England; died after Jun 1405. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events:

• Baron of Audley: , Audley, Stafford, England
• Name: James 5Th Baron De Audley TOUCHET
• _UID: AB38E6EE399F4A7083003C95F309C9FB5DD4

Notes:

James Touchet, 5th Lord (Baron) Audley; Chief Justice 1423 and Chamberlain of South Wales 1438/9 and 1441, supported Henry VI in Wars of Roses. [Burke's Peerage]
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James Tuchet, Lord Audley, b. c 1398, d. 23 Sep 1459, MP 1421-1455; m. (1) c 1415 Margaret de Ros (1-8), living 1423. [Magna Charta Sureties]
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BARONY OF TUCHET (II)

BARONY OF AUDLEY (V)

JAMES (Tuchet), LORD AUDLEY, son and heir, aged ten years in 1408. He was summoned to Parliament 26 February 1420/1 to 26 May 1455, the writs being directed Jacobo de Audley. Chief Justice of South Wales 17 November 1423, Chamberlain of South Wales 11 February 1438/9, and again 24 October 1441. He distinguished himself in the wars with France, having the chief command of some forces in 1430. On 26 October 1447, he had exemption for life, as James Tuchete, Lord of Audley, from attendance in Parliament. Having raised 10,000 men on behalf of Henry VI, he was defeated and slain by the Yorkists at the battle of Blore Heath, Salop.

He married, 1stly, Margaret, da. of William (Roos), LORD Roos, by Margaret, daughter of John (ARUNDEL), LORD ARUNDEL (Papal Dispensation. 6 Kal. March 1415, to him to remain in marriage contracted but not consummated). She was living 15 Kal. September 1423. He married, 2ndly, (Papal Dispensation to remain in marriage contracted but not consummated) though related in the 3rd degree, dat. 16 Kal. March 1429/30) Eleanor, illegitimate daughter of Edmund (de Holland), 4th Earl of Kent, by Constance, widow of Thomas (le Despencer), 2nd son of 5th Lord Despencer and sometime Earl of Gloucester, daughter of Edmund (of Langley), 1st Duke of York. He died 23 September 1459, aged about 61. [Complete Peerage I:341 XIV:51, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Baron of Audley:
2nd Baron of Audley

James married Margaret De ROS, Baroness Of Audley on 24 Feb 1414-1415 in , Heleigh, Stafford, England. Margaret was born in 1398 in Belvoir Castle, Belvoir, Leicestershire, England; died after 18 Aug 1423 in Heleigh Castle, Audley, Staffordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

James married Eleanor De HOLAND, Baroness Of Audley on 14 Feb 1429 in . Eleanor (daughter of Constance PLANTAGENET, Princess Of England) was born about 1407 in Woodstock, Kent, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: Elizabeth TOUCHET
• _UID: F6B8F51CDDFD4A919B60EACD21F4E1C8E411

Family/Spouse: John BASKERVILLE, Of Combe & Eardisley, Sir. John was born on 12 Feb 1407-1408 in Combe, Kington, Herefordshire, England; died on 23 Dec 1455 in Eardisley Castle, Kington, Herefordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• AFN: 9B02-LC
• Baron of Audley: , Audley, Stafford, England
• Reference Number: HWS16196
• _UID: 3DF3FF9B36E44E8C832B2F6334655924144D

John married about 1445 in , Heleigh, Stafford, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: Margaret TOUCHET
• _UID: 72A0BDAC854847B780423267A248EA1D9269

Margaret married Roger VAUGHAN, Of Tretwr, Sir Knight before 1438 in 1st Husband 2ND Wife. Roger (son of Roger VAUGHAN, Of Bredwardine, Sir Knight and Gwladus Verch DAFYDD) was born about 1410 in Tretwr, Llnfhngl Cwm Du, Breconshire, Wales; died in 1471 in Beheaded. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Margaret married Richard Baron GREY, Of Powis, Sir about 1460 in 2ND Husband. Richard was born on 5 Nov 1436 in Pontesbury, Shropshire, England; died on 17 Dec 1466. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• AFN: 91K5-CP
• Reference Number: HWS83039
• _UID: 63767CE34516408E89B0031FFC33B3AC4A75

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• AFN: 91K5-DV
• Reference Number: HWS106010
• _UID: 36762766D91244D2A845271959FD72CAF929

Elizabeth married about 1446 in <, Heleigh, Stafford, England>. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• AFN: 91K5-G7
• Reference Number: HWS106020
• _UID: A5919CC889914A5C8DE7DB3256E056E84FA7

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• AFN: 91K5-HD
• Reference Number: HWS106033
• _UID: D89295105F15459AA7FE339965F9E027383A

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• AFN: 18HW-96M
• Reference Number: HWS106040
• _UID: AA8C253EAA34459A922FE01E345A6ABAC76B

Eleanor married about 1459 in , Pontesbury, Shropshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: Constance TOUCHET
• _UID: 0C0CE74595E94405804AC38BCCB2D2279ACB

Family/Spouse: Robert WHITNEY, Sir. Robert was born about 1423 in Whitney, Herefordshire, England; died about 1500 in Whitney, Herefordshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• _UID: 88532D72F06343CEBEEC7A46603EC641ED9F

Notes:

Following copied from website at [http://www.moonrakers.com/genealogy/baskerville/baskerville_family_histor y.htm]:

BASKERVILLE FAMILY HISTORY

Supplied by Brian Erwin

Edited by Peter Baskerville Rance.

Sir John Baskerville?s second son, John, married Eleanor, heiress of Thomas Helcott of Wotton, of which place he became possessed in the right of his wife, and their son William, had three daughters, one of whom married Thomas Pembridge of Mancel Gamage. Sir John's only daughter, Sibella, was wife to Richard Rowdon. He died in 1455 and was succeeded by his eldest son JAMES BASKERVILLE, who was made knight banneret on the Battlefield of Stoke and Knight of the Bath at the Coronation of Henry II. His wife SYBELLA OR KATHERINE, DEVEREAUX, was daughter of Lord Farrers of Chartley. Through this alliance the Baskerville family derived the royal blood of the Plantagenets, along with that of Castile and Leon. This couple's third son was Philip who married the widow of John Scudmore and he had a son Thomas of Netherwood, in the parish of Thornbury. [1990 P.B.R. My research shows that it is from this Thomas that my own branch of the Baskervilles is descended (See recently published copy of our Family tree)]

Family/Spouse: Katherine DEVEREUX. Katherine (daughter of Sir. Walter IV DEVEREUX, Baron and Anna DE FERRERS, Baroness Of Chartley) was born about 1455 in Weobley, Herefordshire, England; died about 1499. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• _UID: 7DF940E910C747DCBC2A6D2D020BEBF809F7

Notes:

Following copied from website at [http://www.moonrakers.com/genealogy/baskerville/baskerville_family_histor y.htm]:

BASKERVILLE FAMILY HISTORY

Supplied by Brian Erwin

Edited by Peter Baskerville Rance.

Sir John Baskerville?s second son, John, married Eleanor, heiress of Thomas Helcott of Wotton, of which place he became possessed in the right of his wife, and their son William, had three daughters, one of whom married Thomas Pembridge of Mancel Gamage. Sir John's only daughter, SIBELLA, was wife to RICHARD ROWDON. He died in 1455 and was succeeded by his eldest son James Baskerville, who was made knight banneret on the Battlefield of Stoke and Knight of the Bath at the Coronation of Henry II. His wife Sybella or Katherine, Devereaux, was daughter of lord Farrers of Chartley. Through this alliance the Baskerville family derived the royal blood of the Plantagenets, along with that of Castile and Leon. This couple's third son was Philip who married the widow of John Scudmore and he had a son Thomas of Netherwood, in the parish of Thornbury. [1990 P.B.R. My research shows that it is from this Thomas that my own branch of the Baskervilles is descended (See recently published copy of our Family tree)]

Family/Spouse: Richard ROWDON, Of Milton. Richard was born about 1435 in Milton, Banbury, Oxfordshire, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]