Robert De OGLE, Sir Knight

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• _UID: C15C0A41BC2B46F98AE28B84AECBB2023646
• Alt. Birth: Between 1369 and 1373; Alt. Birth

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Sir Robert Ogle, Knight, b. 1369/73, d. 12 Aug 1436, warden of Roxborough Castle. [Ancestral Roots]

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SIR ROBERT DE OGLE, knight, son and heir, was said variously to be aged 26 and 30 in 1409. In 1400, on some unknown occasion, he had been made prisoner by the Scots. In February 1402/3 he was appointed by the Bishop of Durham constable of Norham Castle, and justice, seneschal, sheriff and escheator in Norhamshire and Islandshire for 7 years; and in September for life. He had the King's writ for livery of his inheritance, 3, and livery 12 May 1410, being then a knight (d1). In May 1410 he was one of the commissioners to treat of a truce with Scotland, and in July commissioner of array in Northumberland. Sheriff of Northumberland, 1417-18, and Knight of the Shire, 1419-21, 1425 and 1435- In 1419 he recaptured Wark from William de Haliburton. In 1422 and succeeding years he was a commissioner of the peace. He was lieutenant of the Duke of Bedford as captain of Berwick Castle in 1423; and in the following year one of the escort appointed to conduct the King of Scots from Durham to Scotland. From 1425 to 1435 he was warden of Roxburgh Castle; in 1426 was one of the commissioners in Northumberland to arrange a short-term loan to the King; and in 1435 sheriff of Hexhamshire. He married, on or before 21 May 1399, Maud, daughter of Thomas GREY, lord of Wark. He died 12 or 13 August 1436 (d2). His widow was living 22 August 1451 (e). [Complete Peerage X:28-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

(d1) He had, upon his father's death, violently contested the possession of Bothal with his younger brother John. The Commons presented a petition on behalf of John in the Parliament that met in Jan 1490/10, setting forth that at midnight on the day after their father's death Robert came to Bothal with 200 men-at-arms, some of whom were hired men, and some "even Scots" and enemies of the King, and besieged the castle with "escales, pavises, hurdises et autres orinances de guerre," till after 4 days' siege John was obliged to surrender. Robert remained in possession, and the Commons prayed that the matter should be referred to the Council--"considerantz qe les ditz Chastell & Manoir sont sy pres le Est-Marche d'Escoce, qe sufficeant remedie au dit suppliant par cours de la Commune Ley illoeqes ne poet estre fait." Robert was summoned to answer before the Council, and must have made his peace before the issue of his writ of livery.

(d2) He had issue: younger sons John and William, and a daughter Margery, m. to Robert, son and heir of Rober Harbottle, Esq.

(e) When her son Robert granted a reversion after her death to his brother William. She was probably still alive in 1453/4, when Maud Ogle, widow, paid tithes of Newbigging, in Norham.

Note: Maybe somebody can't do simple arithmetic, but I get 1379-83 when I compute Robert's birth year from the information in CP. AR and MCS (who say 1369-73) also refer to a publication by Clay on the Extinct Peerages of the Northern Counties of England, so maybe he overrode CP. I think I will stick with CP until I find different.

Alt. Birth:
Ogle, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England

Robert married Maud GREY before 21 May 1399. Maud (daughter of Thomas GREY, Of Heton & Wark, Sir and Joan (Jane) De MOWBRAY) was born about 1386 in Heaton Castle, Wark-On-Tweed, Northumberland, England; died after 22 Aug 1451. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• _UID: E046018D2FD84CEE84BE8A77D0DD4AD60545

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Elizabeth Ogle, m. (1) dispensation 13 Jan 1411/12, Sir William Heron, Knight, of Ford, b. Nov 1400, d. 1425, knighted Feb 1421/2, Justice of Northamptonshire 1422, Sheriff of same 1425; m. (2) Sir John Middleton. Dispensation 13 Jan 1411/12 permits Elizabeth, daughter of Robert Ogle, to marry her cousin, William Heron. [Ancestral Roots]

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Elizabeth Ogle; m. (1) 13 Jan 1411/12 Sir William Heron, Knight, of Ford, b. 1400, d. 1425; m. (2) Sir John Middleton. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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He [William Heron] married (dispensation 13 January 1411/2, the parties being related in the fourth degree) Anne, daughter of Sir Robert OGLE. He died s.p.m., 1 September 1425. [Complete Peerage VI:487-8, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Elizabeth married William HERON, Of Croydon, Sir on 13 Jan 1411-1412 in 1st Husband 1St Wife - Dispensation Date. William was born in Nov 1400 in Croydon, Cambridgeshire, England; died on 1 Sep 1425. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Elizabeth married John MIDDLETON, Sir after 1425 in 2ND Husband. John was born about 1400 in Belsay, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• _UID: 212B08AF9E93482592B954B801B2275B2DB0

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Margaret Ogle; m. Sir Robert Harbotel, d. 14 Mar 1443. [Magna Charta Sureties]

Margery married Robert HARBOTTLE, Of Preston, Esq in Jun 1424 in 1st Husband. Robert was born about 1400 in Preston, Tynemouth, Northumberland, England; died on 14 Mar 1442-1443. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Margery married Nicholas BELLINGHAM on 14 Nov 1443 in 2ND Husband. Nicholas was born about 1406 in Burnside, Kendal, Westmorland, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• _UID: 3AB7EA5AF94F4FAAB80D7A29A3D1CC5D7B90

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Elizabeth Heron, b. 1422; m. her cousin, under dispensation, 11 July 1438, Sir John Heron, Knight, son of William and Isabel (Scott) Heron, b. 1415/18, Sheriff of Northumberland 1440-1441, 1451-1452, 1456-57, slain at battle of Towton, 29 Mar 1461. [Ancestral Roots]

No evidence that the Elizabeth Heron who m. Sir Robert Tailboys is their daughter. Hedley's "Northumberland Families" shows no daughter Elizabeth. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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5. ELIZABETH, daughter and heir, was 3 years of age at her father's death, and the Bishop of Durham granted her wardship and marriage to William Heron, of Ford, who was slain at Etal, near Ford, 20 January 1427/8. She married (dispensation 11 July 1438) John, son of her guardian, William HERON afsd., by his wife Isabel. John was 10 or 13 years of age in 1428 and then in ward to the King. John and Elizabeth had livery of their lands in Northamptonshire and Elandshire from the Bishop of Durham in 140-41, and, having entered on the other lands of their inheritance without due livery, received the King's pardon in 1449. As "John Heron esq." he was appointed one of the Keepers of Bamborough Castle in 1438, assisting Sir William Elmedon, and in 1448 became sole Keeper on Elmedon's death; in 1459 John's son Roger became joint Keeper with him. He was thrice Sheriff of Northumberland, in 1440-41, 1451-52, and 1456-57. His authority in Redesdale is shown by a letter of apology addressed to him by the Prior of Durham in 1446; in 1455, as "Sir John Heron of Ford, kt.," he, with Robert Manners, "esq.," was thanked by the Privy Council for diligence in resisting the Scots' attack on Berwick. He filled many public offices in the district, being Commissioner of array, justice, &c., down to 1460. He fought on the Lancastrian side in the Wars of the Roses, and was slain at the battle of Towton, 29 March 1461. For having taken part in the execution of Richard, Duke of York, at Wakefield, 30 December 1460, he was attainted, and all his estates and dignities were forfeited, including the manor of Croydon, co. Cambridge, held by him jointly with William Tailboys. Robert Ogle was ordered to take possession of Ford Castle and to seize the body of Roger, Sir John's son and heir. [Complete Peerage VI:488-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Elizabeth married John HERON, Of Ford, Sir Knight on 11 Jul 1438 in Dispensation Date. John was born between 1415 and 1418 in Of Chillingham & Ford, Northumberland, England; died on 29 Mar 1461 in Battle Of Towton, Yorkshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: Bertram HARBOTEL
• _UID: B270607C0B51416EB597FFBEE01F60F667AF
• Alt. Death: 1466; Alt. Death

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Bertram Harbotel, d. 1466; m. 1439, Joan, daughter of Thomas Lord Lumley. [Magna Charta Sureties]

Bertram married Joan De LUMLEY in 1439 in 1st Husband. Joan was born about 1430 in Little Lumley, Chester Le Street, Durham, England; died after 9 Dec 1492. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• _UID: C3D457516F694AC79F1F27CB811F91CDD617

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According to both Ancestral Roots & Magna Charta Sureties, probably referring to the citation by The Complete Peerage given below , there is no evidence that Elizabeth is daughter of Sir John Heron & Elizabeth Heron, whom I have as her parents. They do not state that she is not a daughter, just that there is no evidence; therefore I am placing her as their daughter, without evidence, based on numerous people in World Connect who have done so and the citation from CP.

Note: Elizabeth's father John Heron & Robert's father William Tailboys held Croydon Manor together, so there was a family connection.

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He [Robert Tailboys] married Elizabeth, daughter of Sir John HERON. He died 30 January 1494/5, and was buried in Kyme Priory. Will as Sir Robert Tailboys, of Redesdale and Kyme, Knight, dated 6 April 1493 and testament 16 November 1494, proved 19 June 1495. [Complete Peerage VII:361, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Family/Spouse: Robert TAILBOYS, 8th Baron Kyme, Sir Knight. Robert (son of Sir William TAILBOYS and Elizabeth BONVILLE) was born about 1451 in Kyme, Sleaford, Lincolnshire, England; died on 30 Jan 1494-1495 in Kyme Priory, Lincolnshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• _UID: 91AE9F211CB840BA9C56F34D063EF6AFE8BD