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John De LA POLE, 2nd Duke Of Suffolk

John De LA POLE, 2nd Duke Of Suffolk

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  1. 1.  John De LA POLE, 2nd Duke Of SuffolkJohn De LA POLE, 2nd Duke Of Suffolk was born on 27 Sep 1442 in Lincolnshire, England; died before 27 Oct 1492 in Wingfield, Suffolk, England; was buried in Wingfield Church, Suffolk, England.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 2AB91107E88E4F21B6B695C5C788965EEA38

    Notes:

    Suffolk, other creations. The [1st] Duke, for all his disgrace, had never been attainted and his son John de la Pole succeeded him in the titles. John married Elizabeth of York, sister of Edward IV and Richard III, with the result that his son the 3rd Duke (and 6th Earl) of Suffolk became after the Tudors had ascended the throne a potential claimant to it and a very real embarrassment to the new dynasty. The de la Poles, at any rate such of them who had not gone abroad or were content to live in obscurity, were accordingly liquidated by the usual Tudor methods of trumped up attainders and beheadings. [Burke's Peerage]

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    BARONY OF POLE (III)

    EARLDOM OF SUFFOLK (IX, 5)

    MARQUESSATE OF SUFFOLK (II)

    DUKEDOM OF SUFFOLK (II)

    EARLDOM OF PEMBROKE (XVI, 2)

    JOHN (DE LA POLE), DUKE OF SUFFOLK [1448], MARQUESS OF SUFFOLK [1444], and EARL OF SUFFOLK [1385], also, apparently, EARL OF PEMBROKE [1447] (but as that Earldom was never recognized to him or to his descendants no further notice of it is here taken), son and heir, was born 27 September 1442; joint Constable (in survivorship with his mother and father) of Wallingford Casde and Steward of the Chiltern Hundreds, 27 November 1445, (with his wife) 6 August 1461-August 1483, and sole, 21 September 1485-March 1488/9. Having married Elizabeth, 2nd daughter of Richard, DUKE OF YORK, he fought as a Yorkist at the battles of St. Albans, 17 February, Ferrybridge, 28 March, and (presumably) Towton, 29 March 1461; was Lord High Steward for the Coronation of (his wife's brother) Edward IV, 28 June 1461, from whom he received confirmation as Duke of Suffolk, 23 March 1462/3; and he bore St. Edward's sceptre at the Coronation of Elizabeth (Wydevill), the Queen Consort, 26 May 1465. In the Parliament of 1464-65 the attainder of 1387/8 was reversed, whereby the Barony of de la Pole (created according to modern doctrine by the writ of 1366) was revived and he probably (then or later) became LORD DE LA POLE. He was a Commissioner of array for cos. Oxford, Berks, Norfolk and Suffolk ex parte Edward IV, 1469-72, and was among the peers and others who swore to accept Edward, Prince of Wales, as heir to the Crown, 3 July 1471. High Steward of Oxford University, circa 1472; K.G. circa 1473; took part in Edward IV's expedition to France in 1475; Lieutenant of Ireland, 10 March-July 1478; Bearer of the sceptre with the dove at the Coronation of (his wife's brother) Richard III, 6 July 1483, and of the Queen's sceptre at that of (his wife's niece) Elizabeth (of York), the Queen Consort, 25 November 1487. He married, 1stly, between 28 January and 7 February 1449/50, his father's ward, Margaret, only daughter and heir of John (BEAUFORT), DUKE OF SOMERSET, by Margaret, widow of Sir Oliver ST. JOHN, sister and heir of John BEAUCHAMP, and daughter of John BEAUCHAMP, of Bletsoe. This child marriage was dissolved before 6 March 1452/3. He married, 2ndly, before October 1460, Elizabeth, sister of EDWARD IV and RICHARD III, 2nd daughter of Richard (PLANTAGENET), 3rd DUKE OF YORK, by Cecily, daughter of Ralph (NEVILL), 1st EARL of WESTMORLAND. He died between 29 October 1491 and 27 October 1492, being buried at Wingfield. M.I. there and at Ewelme. His widow, who was born 22 April 1444 at Rouen, died between 7 January 1502/3 and 3 May 1504, and was bur. with him. M.I. [Complete Peerage XII/1:448-50, XIV:602, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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    John de la Pole, 2nd Duke (1442-91), married Elizabeth, sister to Edward IV and Richard III and from this marriage sprang John, Earl of Lincoln (c1464-1487), Edmund, Earl of Suffolk (c1472-1513, executed by Henry VIII), two churchmen, four daughters, and Richard, on whose death at the battle of Pavia (1525) the line became extinct. (Chambers Biographical Dictionary)

    John married Margaret BEAUFORT, Duchess Of Suffolk before 7 Feb 1449-1450 in 1st Husband 1St Wife - Divorced By 24 Mar 1452/3. Margaret (daughter of Margaret De BEAUCHAMP) was born on 31 May 1443 in Bletsoe Castle, Bedfordshire, England; died on 29 Jun 1509 in Westminster, London, Middlesex, England; was buried in Abbot's House, Cheyney Gates, Westminster Abbey. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    John married Elizabeth "Of York" PLANTAGENET before Oct 1460 in 2ND Wife. Elizabeth was born on 22 Apr 1444 in Rouen, Seine-Maritime, France; died before 3 May 1504 in Wingfield, Suffolk, England; was buried in Wingfield Church, Suffolk, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. John De LA POLE, 1st\Last Earl Of Lincoln  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1462 in Wingfield, Suffolk, England; died on 16 Jun 1487 in Battle Of Stoke, Nottinghamshire, England (Dsp &Vp).


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  John De LA POLE, 1st\Last Earl Of LincolnJohn De LA POLE, 1st\Last Earl Of Lincoln Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1) was born about 1462 in Wingfield, Suffolk, England; died on 16 Jun 1487 in Battle Of Stoke, Nottinghamshire, England (Dsp &Vp).

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    • _UID: C26FD288601243A49117A774A30F2667E670

    Notes:

    John de la Pole, 1st and last Earl of Lincoln of the March 1466/7 creation (dsp 1487). [Burke's Peerage]

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    EARLDOM OF LINCOLN (XIV, 1)

    JOHN DE LA POLE, son and heir apparent of John (DE LA POLE), DUKE OF SUFFOLK, by the Lady Elizabeth, sister of EDWARD IV, was born circa 1462. On 13 March 1466/7 he was created EARL OF LINCOLN, with ?20 per annum from the issues of the county of Lincoln. In company with the King's sons he was ceremonially knighted, K.B.. on Whit Sunday, 14 May 1475. He attended the funeral of Edward IV, 16/17 April 1483. He was bearer of the Orb at the Coronation of Richard III, 6 July 1483, and with many other nobles joined him in August at Warwick. On 13 April 1484 he had grants of manors for his good service against the rebels, on 1 May was made a commissioner of array in the North, and in July was appointed President of the Council of the North. On 21 August he was appointed Chief Governor of Ireland, as the King's Lieutenant. In 1485, about May, he was declared by his uncle King Richard to be the next heir to the Crown, failing issue to himself. He is said to have fought for Richard at Bosworth, 22 August 1485, but, like his father, quickly submitted to Henry Vll. He was in Henry's service up to the middle of 1486, when he fled to Flanders and took an active part in promoting the cause of Lambert Simnel there. He proclaimed Simnel in Dublin, 24 May 1487, and, crossing to England, landed at Furness 4 June; and fighting for him at the battle of Stoke, 16 June, was slain. He married Margaret, daughter of Thomas (FITZALAN), EARL OF ARUNDEL, by Margaret, daughter of Richard (WYDVILL), EARL RIVERS, and sister of Elizabeth, wife of EDWARD IV. He died as aforesaid, v.p. and s.p., 16 June 1487, when his Earldom became extinct, and he was tainted. His widow Margaret was living in 1493 or later. [Complete Peerage VII:688-90, XIV:437, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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    Following copied from www.fifteenthcentury.net/battles.html:
    About the last full battle of the War of Roses: 4000 rebels &
    3000 loyalists killed.
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    The Battle of Stoke
    Date: 16 June 1487
    Victor: Tudor (Lancaster)
    York Leadership: John, Earl of Lincoln; Francis, Viscount Lovell; Martin Schwarz
    Lancastrian Leadership: Henry VII; John De Vere, Earl of Oxford; Jaspar Tudor, Duke of Bedford
    Notable Deaths: John, Earl of Lincoln

    In 1487, Henry would face a serious threat to his throne. A young man named Lambert Simnel had been trained by a priest named Richard Symonds to pass himself off as the Earl of Warwick. When presented to the Earl of Kildare in Ireland, he was accepted as the Yorksit heir to the English throne. The real Earl, as the heir to the House of York (he was nephew to Edward IV and Richard III, Clarence's son), had been imprisoned in the Tower by Henry after Bosworth. In order to prove the rumours false, Henry paraded the Earl through the streets of London, but questions remained as to who was the real Earl.

    Yorkist sympathisers such as John de la Pole, Earl of Lincoln (another Yorkist heir as son of Richard III and Edward IV's sister, Elizabeth) and Viscount Lovell were living in exile at the court of the Duke of Burgundy, whose wife was Margaret of York (another sister of Richard III and Edward IV). As soon as they heard of the Yorkist sympathy in Ireland, they sailed there, armed with financial support from Margaret, and two thousand German mercenaries under the command of Martin Schwarz. On 24 may 1487, Simnel was crowned Edward VI in Christ Church in Dublin. They were now joined by other dissaffected Yorkists, and with this backing, some Irish troops and the mercenaries, the Yorkists decided to invade England.

    On 4 June the Yorkists landed on the Lancashire coast. From here they headed to Yorkshire, Richard's area of greatest popularity, and gathered supporters as they went. Their force soon numbered as many as nine thousand men. From Masham, Lincoln wrote a note to the lord mayor and the city leaders of York, warning him that their force would soon be reaching York, where it would be gathering supplies. The city leaders wrote back declaring they would not let the forces enter. The Earl of Northumberland had sent orders to the city to support Henry. With the city of York closed the them, the Yorkists turned south.

    By 15 August, the Yorkists, who now numbered about ten thousand men, had reached Newark, and Henry was closing in on them with a large army. The Yorkist army, thanks mainly to Lincoln's leadership, was very well disciplined and had very high morale. The Yorksits had hoped to cross the River Trent here, but found out that the castle and bridge at Newark were being held by a group of the king's men who had ridden ahead of the main army. They decided instead to ford the river at Fiskerton, west of Newark, and by 15 June had travelled there and crossed the river. They made camp in a meadow, west of a small village called East Stoke.

    In the morning, the Yorkists moved into a defensive position, on a hill known as Burham Furlong. With their army in place, they waited for the king's forces to arrive, unwilling to lose their advantageous position. Unbeknownst to the Yorkists, the king's commanders did not know where the rebels were, or whether they had even crossed the Trent. Oxford was the first to discover their whereabouts, and he was forced to make a quick decision whether to attack the Yorkists, sending word and hoping the rest of the king's forces would arrive in time, or wait for the rest of the forces to arrive, and risk being attacked in the open. He decided to attack and advanced his forces into battle line. The Yorkists attacked downhill, and Oxford found his forces were being pushed back. It was only the timely arrival of the king's main army that saved Oxford's men from a rout. As more and more fresh troops kept arriving, the Yorkists began to be pushed back up the hill, until they broke and fled.

    Most of the Yorkists tried to escape along a ravine leading from the hill to the river. They were cornered by the king's men and hudnreds were killed. This place is still known as the "Red Gutter". The Yorkists were pursued for several days, thousand being killed and hundreds being captured. Lincoln and Schwartz were killed, and Lovell disappeared without a trace. The German mercenaries were allowed to return to their homes. Simnel was captured and later put to work in the royal kitchens.

    Family/Spouse: Margaret FITZALAN. Margaret (daughter of Thomas FITZALAN, 17th Earl Of Arundel, Kb, Kg and Margaret WYDEVILLE) was born about 1470 in Arundel, Sussex, England; died after 1493. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 3. Margaret De LA POLE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1487 in Wingfield, Suffolk, England; and died.


Generation: 3

  1. 3.  Margaret De LA POLEMargaret De LA POLE Descendancy chart to this point (2.John2, 1.John1) was born about 1487 in Wingfield, Suffolk, England; and died.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: F6943684E2F441858C3C74B7214694A47270

    Notes:

    The ancestry of Margaret is not certain. Many have her the daughter of a Michael de la Pole, "a younger son of the Earl of Suffolk". Although the Earl of Suffolk was still around as a lesser title for the Dukes, nobody, except for the 2nd Duke's son Edmund (c1471-1513) (he was too young to be such a Michael's father) had gone by the title of Earl of Suffolk for 3 generations by the time of Margaret de la Pole. The last Earl of Suffolk who had children was a Michael de la Pole, d. 1415. Therefore if Michael de la Pole, as Margaret's father, was a younger son of a titled peer, he would have been the younger son of one of the Dukes.

    I found this ancestry in World Connect, db=:2181483, Jeanie Davis. It is as probable as any, and more than most. The only "iffy" part of it is Margaret being the daughter of John de la Pole, Earl of Lincoln, whom Burke's Peerage states died without issue (dsp).

    Margaret married before 1503. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]