Mrs. Emma (Nmn-Roger) MONTGOMERY

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Emma married Roger I DE MONTGOMERY, Vicomte D'hiemois about 1038. Roger (son of Rogerus MAGNUS) was born about 985 in Probably St. Germain, Montgomery, Normandy, France; died about 1040 in Exiled To Paris, Seine, France; was buried in 1022 Founded Troarn Abbey. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Shrewsbury, Earldom of: In early December 1074 Roger de Montgomery was created Earl of Shropshire or Shrewsbury. As with other medieval earldoms, little distinction was then made between the county town and county proper when designating a specific name for a title, chiefly because an earl, who was then more or less and official, albeit often hereditary, was inconceivable except as earl of a county.

Roger was son of another Roger de Montgomery, seigneur of the Norman places (St Germain-de-Montgomery and Ste-Foy-de-Montgomery) of that name in the Calvados region. He was a prominent member of the nobles grouped around William (later William I of England, The Conqueror) of Normandy well before the 1066 invasion of England but stayed behind in Normandy during the actual enterprise. The year after Hastings he went to England and received land grants in Sussex. He is thought to have constructed the Castle of Montgomery (now in Powys, but formerly named Mongomeryshire after his family), doing so shortly before the Domesday Survey. [Burke's Peerage, p. 2604]

Roger married Mabel De Talvas D' ALENCON before 1048 in Perche, France. Mabel (daughter of William II Talvas Count D' ALENCON, Prince De Belleme and Hildeburge De BEAUMONT) was born in 1026 in Alencon, Eure, Normandy, France; died on 2 Dec 1079 in Bures Castle. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Ancestral File Number: 9NR4-H6

Maud married about 1054. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: Robert II De BELLEME
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Shrewsbury, Earldom of: Under the system then prevailing the Earldom passed to an elder brother, Robert de Belleme, who constructed Bridgnorth Castle and continued the family policy of harrying the Welsh. He rebelled against Henry I and in 1102 was deprived of the Earldom of Shrewsbury/Shropshire, together with his English and Welsh estates. [Burke's Peerage, p. 2604]

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According to Winston Churchill in "A History of the English Speaking People", the Montgomeries (a very great house of Norman England) sided with Robert, Duke of Normandy, against his brother Henry I, in the war of succession after William Rufus, William The Conqueror's designated heir for England was killed in a hunting accident [in which Henry I was involved--some think more than an "accident"]. Henry I destroyed the power of the Montgomeries starting in September, 1100. He captured Robert in Normandy in the battle at Tinchebrai and combined England and Normandy again.

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Seigneur de Belleme and Alecon.

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• Name: 02nd Earl Of ARUNDEL
• Name: 2nd Earl Of SHREWSBURY
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Shrewsbury, Earldom of: His [Roger, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury's] son, the2nd Earl of Shrewsbury (or Shropshire) of the 1074 creation, was killedby a missile launched from a Norse (or conceivably Irish) raiding partyoff the Anglesey coast while riding along the forshore on that islandtrying to fend them off. He was accounted gentle by the English andNormans but a Hammer by the Welsh. Under the systerm then prevailing theEarldom passed to an elder brother, Robert de Belleme, who constructedBridgnorth Castle and continued the family policy of harrying the Welsh.He rebelled against Henry I and in 1102 was deprived of the Earldom ofShrewsbury/Shropshire, together with his English and Welsh estates.[Burke's Peerage, p. 2604]

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EARLDOM OF ARUNDEL (II) 1094

EARLDOM OF SHREWSBURY (II) 1094

HUGH (DE MONTGOMERY), EARL OF SHREWSBURY, 3rd but 2nd surviving son by1st wife, was born probably between 1053 and 1059 (b). In December 1079he was at the Castle of Bures when his mother was murdered there and hepursued the murderers in vain. In the summer of 1080 at Caen he joinedhis brothers in attesting his father's charter for Troarn for the soul oftheir mother. Before his father's death he was already recognised as hisheir in England. In 1092 he was at the siege of Breval and with othermagnates he made peace between William de Br?teuil and Ascelin Goel. OnRoger's death in 1094 he succeeded him as EARL OF SHROPSHIRE orSHREWSBURY and to all his lands in England and Wales. In that year theWelsh rose in arms. Hugh fought them with some success in North Wales,but in 1095 they took Montgomery and slaughtered the garrison. Hugh tookpart in the conspiracy against William II in 1095, but he bought theKing's favour for ?3,000. In 1098 with the Earl of Chester he invaded andconquered Anglesey, treating the Welsh with great cruelty. When aNorwegian fleet appeared off the coast of North Wales, the 2 Earls met atDiganwy (co. Carnarvon) and crossed to Anglesey. As the fleet approachedthe land, the Earl rode along the shore and was struck by an arrow shot,or a javelin thrown, from a ship and fell dying into the sea. Thus hedied unmarried about 31 July 1098 and was buried about 17 August atShrewsbury Abbey.[d] [Complete Peerage XI:688-9, (transcribed by DaveUtzinger)]

(b) He may or may not have been the 3rd child. According to a Welshannalist, he was fighting in Wales in 1072; but this seems impossiblyearly. [Note: I think that many of Roger II's children were born earlierthan CP states.]

[d] The Normans and English long sought for his corpse, drawn away by thetide, and found it at length; and on the 17th day after his death bore itto Shrewsbury, where it was buried in the abbey amid great mourning. Hewas the only one of the sons of Mabel who was gentle and amiable. Thisseems hardly compatible with the alleged cruelties to the Welsh inAnglesey.

Note: Hugh died unmarried, but I have a son, undoubtedly illegitimate, byhim.

Hugh married in No Marriage. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• Name: DE BELLEME
• Name: Robert II De BELLEME
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Seigneur de Belleme and Alecon.
Exiled 1102 from England by Henry I and lost English Lands.
Shrewsbury, Earldom of: Under the system then prevailing the Earldom passed to an elder brother, Robert de Belleme, who constructed Bridgnorth Castle and continued the family policy of harrying the Welsh. He rebelled against Henry I and in 1102 was deprived of the Earldom of Shrewsbury/Shropshire, together with his English and Welsh estates. [Burke's Peerage, p. 2604]

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According to Winston Churchill in "A History of the English Speaking People", the Montgomeries (a very great house of Norman England) sided with Robert, Duke of Normandy, against his brother Henry I, in the war of succession after William Rufus, William The Conqueror's designated heir for England was killed in a hunting accident [in which Henry I was involved--some think more than an "accident"]. Henry I destroyed the power of the Montgomeries starting in September, 1100. He captured Robert in Normandy in the battle at Tinchebrai and combined England and Normandy again.

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Seigneur de Belleme and Alecon.

Robert married in 1083 in Of Poitou, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Robert married before 9 Sep 1087. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• AFN: V9V1-X5
• FamilySearch ID: LBH5-S3X
• Marriage Fact: See Note Page
• Name: MAUD

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Alt. Born Abt. 1066
Ancestral File Number: V9V1-X5

Sybil married Lord Robert FITZHAMON, of Gloucester and Glamorgan about 1084 in Normandy, France. Robert (son of Hamo Dapifer CREVECOUER, Sire De Torigny and Mrs. Hamo CREVECOUER) was born in 1050 in Cruelly, Calvados, Normandy, France; died on 10 Mar 1107 in At The Battle Of Falaise; was buried in 1107 in Tewkesbury Abbey, Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire, England, United Kingdom. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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Mabel married about 1085 in Normandy, France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• AFN: V9V7-C2
• FamilySearch ID: 9CZC-NNC
• Royal House: ; FitzHamon
• Title (Nobility): ; Countess of Gloucester
• Name: Matilda
• Name: Sibylle

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Royal Ancestry by Douglas Richardson, Vol. 3 pg 85
... daughter and heiress of Robert Fitz Hamon, of Gloucester, Bristol, Tewksbury, and Cardiff, seigneur of Cruelly in Calvados, and Torigny in Manche, Normandy, hereditary Governor of Caen, by Sybil, daughter of Roger de Montgomery, Earl of Shrewsbury.

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Foundation for Medieval Genealogy
MABEL [Matilda or Sibylle] FitzRobert, daughter & heiress of ROBERT FitzHamon Lord of Glamorgan and Gloucester & his wife Sibylle de Montgomery (-[29 Sep] 1157). The Chronica de Fundatoribus et Fundatione of Tewkesbury Abbey names (in order) "Mabiliam, Hawysiam, Ceciliam, Amisiam" as the four daughters of "Robertum filium Haymonis, dominum de Astramervilla in Normannia", recording that Mabile married Robert Fitzroy. Orderic Vitalis records that "Rodbertus Henrici regis filius" married "Rodberto Haimonis filio...[et] Sibiliam Rogerii comitis filiam...filiam...Mathildem". Robert of Torigny records that "filia Roberti Belismensis" was the mother of "Rogerius Wigornensis episcopus", son of "Robertus comes Gloecestrensis?filius primi Henrici regis Anglorum", clarifying that the bishop's grandfather was "Robertus filius Haimonis dominus de Torigneio". The Annals of Tewkesbury record that "Mabilia comitissa Gloucestri?" died in 1157.

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Mabel FitzRobert, Countess of Gloucester (1090 - 29 September 1157) was an Anglo-Norman noblewoman, and a wealthy heiress who brought the lordship of Gloucester, among other prestigious honours to her husband, Robert, 1st Earl of Gloucester upon their marriage. He was the illegitimate son of King Henry I of England.

Her father was Robert Fitzhamon, Lord of Gloucester and Glamorgan. As she was the eldest daughter of four, and her younger sisters had become nuns, Mabel inherited all of his honours and properties upon his death in 1107.

As Countess of Gloucester, Mabel was significant politically and she exercised an important administrative role in the lordship.

Mabel was born in Gloucestershire, England in 1090, the eldest of the four daughters of Robert FitzHamon, Lord of Gloucester and Glamorgan, and his wife, Sybil de Montgomery. Her three younger sisters, Hawise, Cecile and Amice all became nuns, making Mabel the sole heiress to her father's lordships and vast estates in England, Wales, and Normandy.

Her paternal grandfather was Hamon, Sheriff of Kent, and her maternal grandparents were Roger de Montgomery, 1st Earl of Shrewsbury and Mabel Talvas of Belleme.

In March 1107, her father died in Normandy, leaving his lordships and estates to Mabel. Her mother married secondly Jean, Sire de Raimes.

In 1107, Mabel married Robert of Caen, an illegitimate son of King Henry I by his mistress Sybil Corbet. Their marriage is recorded by Orderic Vitalis who also names her parents. He would later become an important figure during the turbulent period in English history known as The Anarchy which occurred in the reign of King Stephen of England. Throughout the civil war, he was a loyal supporter of his half-sister Empress Matilda who would make him the chief commander of her army. He had originally sworn fealty to King Stephen, but after quarrelling with him in 1137, his English and Welsh possessions were forfeited, and thus he joined forces with Matilda.

Mabel brought to her husband the honours of Gloucester in England, Glamorgan in Wales, Sainte-Scholasse-sur-Sarthe, Evrecy and Creully in Normandy. By right of his wife, he became the 2nd Lord of Glamorgan, and gained possession of her father's castle of Cardiff in Wales. In August 1122, he was created 1st Earl of Gloucester; henceforth, Mabel was styled as Countess of Gloucester.

As countess, Mabel exercised a prominent administrative role in the Gloucester lordship. Her political importance was evident when she was made responsible for seeing that her husband upheld his side of the agreement in the treaty he made with Miles de Gloucester, 1st Earl of Hereford. She also witnessed four of Robert's charters; as well as giving her personal consent for his foundation of the Abbey of Margam, whose endowment came from her own lands. Later, after Robert's death, Mabel assumed control of the honour of Gloucester's Norman lands on behalf of her eldest son William.

Together Robert and Mabel had at least eight children:
William Fitz Robert, 2nd Earl of Gloucester (23 November 1112- 23 November 1183), married Hawise de Beaumont by
whom he had five children, including Isabella of Gloucester, the first wife of King John of England, and Amice FitzRobert,
Countess of Gloucester.
Roger, Bishop of Worcester (died 9 August 1179)
Hamon FitzRobert, (died 1159), killed in the Siege of Toulouse.
Robert FitzRobert of Ilchester (died before 1157), married Hawise de Redvers, by whom he had a daughter Mabel who in
her turn married Jordan de Cambernon.
Richard FitzRobert, Sire de Creully (died 1175), inherited the seigneury of Creully from Mabel, and became the ancestor of
the Sires de Creully. He married the daughter of Hughes de Montfort by whom he had five children.
Philip FitzRobert, (died after 1147), Castellan of Cricklade. He took part in the Second Crusade.
Maud FitzRobert (died 29 July 1190), married Ranulf de Gernon, 4th Earl of Chester by whom she had three children.
Mabel FitzRobert, married Aubrey de Vere

Robert also sired an illegitimate son, Richard, Bishop of Bayeux by Isabel de Douvres.

Mabel's husband died on 31 October 1147. Mabel herself died on 29 September 1157 in Bristol at the age of sixty-seven years.
Countess of Glo

Maud married Robert FITZROY, 1st Earl of Gloucester in Jun 1119 in Lisieux, Calvados, Duchy of Normandy, France. Robert (son of King Henry I Beauclerc Of Angevin ENGLAND, Of England and Concubine Edith Fitzforne SIGULFSON) was born in 1090 in Caen, Calvados, France; was christened in in Bristol, Gloucestershire, England; died on 31 Oct 1147 in Bristol Castle, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England; was buried in 1147 in St. James Priory, Bristol, Bristol Unitary Authority, Bristol, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]