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John TRETHURFFE

John TRETHURFFE

Male Abt 1399 - Yes, date unknown

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Generation: 1

  1. 1.  John TRETHURFFEJohn TRETHURFFE was born about 1399 in Of Trethurffe, Cornwall, England; and died.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: ADCE8B05068C44A3937DD32C4891AEC5DF31

    Family/Spouse: TRENOWITH. was born about 1403 in Of Trethurffe, Cornwall, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 2. Jane TRETHURFFE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1427 in Of Trethurffe, Cornwall, England; and died.
    2. 3. Reynold TRETFORD  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1515 in Of Ashton, Devonshire, England; and died.


Generation: 2

  1. 2.  Jane TRETHURFFEJane TRETHURFFE Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1) was born about 1427 in Of Trethurffe, Cornwall, England; and died.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 2D98323D7B82472B9038FCCD82F80443F55C

    Family/Spouse: John TREVENOR. John and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 3.  Reynold TRETFORDReynold TRETFORD Descendancy chart to this point (1.John1) was born about 1515 in Of Ashton, Devonshire, England; and died.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 8F6B023A065D4FA6A14C3E534EB11EB0D9DC

    Notes:

    BIOGRAPHY: Also of Trethurffe,Cornwall,England.

    Reynold married Margaret ST. AUBYN about 1540 in Of Ashton, Devonshire, England. Margaret (daughter of John ST.AUBYN and Catherine CHALLONS) was born about 1418 in Of St. Aubyn, Cornwall, England; and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 4. John TRETHURFFE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1451 in Of Trethurffe, Cornwall, England; died on 20 Jun 1510.
    2. 5. Margaret TRETHURFFE (TRETHFORD)  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1505 in Landrake, Cornwall, England; died on 28 Jun 1576.


Generation: 3

  1. 4.  John TRETHURFFEJohn TRETHURFFE Descendancy chart to this point (3.Reynold2, 1.John1) was born about 1451 in Of Trethurffe, Cornwall, England; died on 20 Jun 1510.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 0D84AD9B096D42308D0BCBB2C82F6ACF0681

    Family/Spouse: Elizabeth COURTENAY. Elizabeth and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  2. 5.  Margaret TRETHURFFE (TRETHFORD)Margaret TRETHURFFE (TRETHFORD) Descendancy chart to this point (3.Reynold2, 1.John1) was born in 1505 in Landrake, Cornwall, England; died on 28 Jun 1576.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: LHG7-BM7
    • _UID: 73A959457D7345A7AE63762C31F4B4C9EB6A

    Notes:

    CONFLICT: Birth, 1545, Ashton, Cornwall, England, Marriage, 1564, Cornwall England, hum3.paf

    Family/Spouse: Richard BULLER. Richard and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Margaret married Edward COURTNEY in Nov 1525. Edward (son of Edward COURTENAY and Alice WOTTON) was born about 1495 in Landrake, Cornwall, England; died on 1 Mar 1539 in Landrake, Cornwall, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 6. William COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1530 in Landrake, Cornwall, England; and died.
    2. 7. Edward COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1533 in Landrake, Cornwall, England; died after 1555.
    3. 8. Peter COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1536 in Ladock, Cornwall, England; died on 28 May 1606 in Cornwall, England.
    4. 9. Katherine COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1539 in Landrake, Cornwall, England; and died.

    Margaret married Thomas H. HOLCOMBE on 20 Jun 1559 in Ashton, Cornwall, England. Thomas (son of Ellis HOLCOMBE and Elizabeth SYDENHAM) was born in 1526 in Hull, Devonshire, England; died about 1579 in Ashton, Cornwall, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 10. Christopher HOLCOMBE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1560 in Devonshire, England; was christened on 15 Jan 1560 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales; and died.
    2. 11. Gilbert HOLCOMBE  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1565 in Hole (Hull), Devonshire, England; died on 14 Oct 1623 in Mylor Churchtown, Cornwall, England.
    3. 12. Josias HOLCOMBE  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1568 in Of Cornwall, England; was christened in Nov; died in in Cornwall, England.
    4. 13. Robert HOLCOMBE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1570; and died.
    5. 14. Nicholas HOLCOMBE  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1570; died in 1628.
    6. 15. John HOLCOMBE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1572; and died.
    7. 16. Margaret HOLCOMBE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1574; and died.


Generation: 4

  1. 6.  William COURTENAYWilliam COURTENAY Descendancy chart to this point (5.Margaret3, 3.Reynold2, 1.John1) was born in 1530 in Landrake, Cornwall, England; and died.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 138FD4C6B5964CC3839DD41E125BAA12D1A8


  2. 7.  Edward COURTENAYEdward COURTENAY Descendancy chart to this point (5.Margaret3, 3.Reynold2, 1.John1) was born about 1533 in Landrake, Cornwall, England; died after 1555.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: E440AA35EA384DB2ADCDE00ACE1168FDCC4E


  3. 8.  Peter COURTENAYPeter COURTENAY Descendancy chart to this point (5.Margaret3, 3.Reynold2, 1.John1) was born in 1536 in Ladock, Cornwall, England; died on 28 May 1606 in Cornwall, England.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: L1WB-WJJ
    • _UID: 1E8C852E46234B43B79A0729BD598E8B044D
    • Residence: 1569, Landrake, Cornwall, England; Muster roll
    • Lease for lives, Trewince, Ladock: 10 Jan 1582; Peter Edgecomb, esq. to John Courteney, Edwd Courteney and Wm Courteney, sons of Peter Courteney of Trethurff, Ladock, esq.
    • Will: 16 Dec 1605; Proved 28 May 1606

    Notes:

    DEATH: Will 16 Dec 1605, Proved 28 May 1606, Cornwall,England. CONFLICT: WFT Birth 1550, Cornwall, England, Marriage 1570, Cornwall, England.

    Peter married Katherine RESKYMER in 1566 in Ladock, Cornwall, England. Katherine (daughter of William RESKIM and Alice DENSELL (DENYSEL)) was born in 1546 in Haylford, Cornwall, England; died on 28 Jun 1576 in Ashton, Cornwall, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 17. John COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1556 in Of Landrake, Cornwall, England; died on 8 Jul 1615.
    2. 18. William COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1557 in Of Landrake, Cornwall, England; died after 25 Sep 1639.
    3. 19. Edward COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1570 in Ladock, Cornwall, England; died on 16 Jun 1622.
    4. 20. Mary COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1572 in Ladock, Cornwall, England; died on 27 Feb 1646; was buried on 27 Feb 1646.
    5. 21. Anne COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1573 in Ladock, Cornwall, England; died before 1642 in France.
    6. 22. Sir Peter COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1575 in Of Landrake, Cornwall, England; died on 18 Jul 1648.
    7. 23. Margaret COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1577 in Ladock, Cornwall, England; died on 4 Dec 1658; was buried on 4 Dec 1658.
    8. 24. John COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1577; and died.
    9. 25. Reskimer COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1580 in Ladock, Cornwall, England; died on 26 Aug 1665; was buried on 26 Aug 1665.
    10. 26. Mary COURTENAY  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1587 in Of Landrake, Cornwall, England; and died.

  4. 9.  Katherine COURTENAYKatherine COURTENAY Descendancy chart to this point (5.Margaret3, 3.Reynold2, 1.John1) was born in 1539 in Landrake, Cornwall, England; and died.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 61769E7D2DEF48CD8F18D47D8C28B6A4299E

    Family/Spouse: George KEKEWICH. George and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  5. 10.  Christopher HOLCOMBEChristopher HOLCOMBE Descendancy chart to this point (5.Margaret3, 3.Reynold2, 1.John1) was born about 1560 in Devonshire, England; was christened on 15 Jan 1560 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales; and died.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: LKSX-P7J
    • _UID: 65DE4C3FF988495BA9038823A2DFE825D894

    Family/Spouse: MEARS. and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Christopher married Joyce about 1621. Joyce and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  6. 11.  Gilbert HOLCOMBEGilbert HOLCOMBE Descendancy chart to this point (5.Margaret3, 3.Reynold2, 1.John1) was born in 1565 in Hole (Hull), Devonshire, England; died on 14 Oct 1623 in Mylor Churchtown, Cornwall, England.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: LRZ5-FD3
    • _UID: 0008D10E7B524AF5B5D3A30CD731ABA27FC9
    • Will: 14 Oct 1623; Proved 18 Aug 1624 by sole legatee & exec. brother in law Wm Bonython

    Notes:

    Thomas Holcombe is NOT the son of Gilbert Holcombe and Anne Courtenay
    George McCraken writing in The American Genealogist, Vol. 26:109 found that Gilbert Holcomb's oral (noncupative) of 14 October 1623, will stated "d.s.p.", (which means died without issue), and that Gilbert left his estate to his brother-in-law, Richard Bonithon. SEE SOURCE.

    SEE IN MEMORIES: Appears Gilbert and Anne Courtenay had no children.
    HOLCOMBE OF HULL
    The visitations of the county of Devon : comprising the herald's visitations of 1531, 1564, & 1620, Part 2 (H-Z) Page 474.
    https://www.familysearch.org/library/books/viewer/126381/?offset=0#page=39&viewer=picture&o=&n=0&q=

    "J. L. Vivian's edition of the Visitations of Devon (Exeter, 1887), p. 474, states categorically that Gilbert Holcombe died at Milor, Cornwall, leaving a nuncupative will 14 Oct. 1623 in which he bequeathed his estate to his brother-in-law, Richard Bonithon. However, Richard Bonithon himself died before execution of the will and his next of kin was nephew John Bonithon (Bonython). The statement contains the abbreviation "d.s.p." which surely stands for "decessit sine prole" and means "died without issue." Since the immigrant Thomas Holcombe must be presumed to have been then living in England, he cannot have been a son of Gilbert Holcombe."

    Thomas' history is derived mostly from land and probate records

    At the time of Thomas' birth, the Renaissance was ending as was the reign of Queen Elizabeth I. Perhaps one of the major events of his childhood was the publishing of the King James Bible, which may have affected his life more than any other event of the early 17th century. The Mayflower landed in Plymouth in 1620 and Thomas certainly would have heard of it and perhaps been excited by the possibilities for a young man. The Colony of Massachusetts was founded in 1628 and the Colony of Connecticut was founded in 1633. The stage was set for the second wave of English colonists of which Thomas was a part.

    Unknown Ancestry

    The early published genealogies, Seaver on his page 8, and McPherson on her page 9, listed his parents as Gilbert Holcombe and Ann Courtenay. Neither of these writers cites specific references for this statement and there is evidence to prove the contrary. Both of these authors apparently used the Hiram Frank Holcomb Genealogical Research Collection at the Connecticut Historical Society, call number GEN029. This ancestry, unfortunately, has been perpetuated across the internet.

    Shortly after the publication of McPherson's work, George McCracken wrote (TAG 26:109): Our two genealogies of the Holcombe family, those of Jesse Seaver, The Holcomb(e) Genealogy (Philadelphia, 1925) and of Hannah Elizabeth Weir (Mrs. Lewin D.) McPherson, The Holcombes, Nation Builders (Washington, 1947) both leave us with the impression that it is all but proved that the parents of Thomas Holcombe of Dorchester, Mass., and Windsor, Conn., were Gilbert Holcombe of Hull, Devon, and of his wife, Ann Courtenay, daughter of Peter Courtenay of Vrotonin, Cornwall.
    Neither of these writers cites specific references for this statement and there is evidence to prove the contrary. J. L. Vivian's edition of the Visitations of Devon (Exeter, 1887), p. 474 [IN MEMORIES], states categorically that Gilbert Holcombe died at Milor, Cornwall, leaving a nun-cupative will dated 14 Oct. 1623 in which he bequeathed his estate to his brother-in-law, Richard Bonithon. The statement contains the abbreviation "d.s.p." which surely stands for "decessit sine prole" and means "died without issue." Since the immigrant Thomas Holcombe must be presumed to have been then living in England, he cannot have been a son of Gilbert Holcombe.

    McCracken then goes on to dispute other conclusions made by McPherson about Thomas' heritage.

    Several early authors state he was a member of Reverend Ephraim Huit's church, and Huit was from Kenilworth in Warwickshire. But, no Holcomb births or records were found from the Diocesan Court at Worchester. The Register of Wroxal, 300 @24, for the year 1634 did list the following; Sarah Huit daughter of Ephraim and Isabell his wife was baptized, and Nathaniel Griswold the son of Samuel Griswold and Anne his wife was baptized. Bowman has found clues recently that Thomas may have been from county Somerset, the city of Bridgewater. She has recently discovered that one of the early Holcomb births in Connecticut was recorded as James the eighth. This could be a clue to ancestry of Thomas Holcomb in that the birth occurred in the third generation of American Holcomb's, i.e. not time to have had eight generations.

    Bowman lists the ancestry of Gilbert and Ann Courtney Holcomb in her Volume 2 without resolving the question of Thomas' parentage in order that future researchers not duplicate others' efforts in delineating this line.

    Most recently (October 25, 1998), Bowman updated her Volume 2 with the comment that Christopher was the most likely ancestor of Thomas. The birth and death dates normally assigned to the son of Christopher are not correct nor the marriage to Joan Prideaux. The birth and death dates are those of Thomas, the actor, of London who married Francis Bartlett.

    In 2018, for the first time since McCracken, David Williams, a published British researcher, investigated the possibilities of a lineal descent for the Southern Holcomb(e) lines from the Holcombes of Hole in Devon and/or their cadet branch of Brownslate in Pembrokeshire. In the "Magazine of Virginia Genealogy", Vol. 56, No. 4, page 278, he repeats previous disclaimers about Gilbert: "Gilbert sold the estate and mansion of Hole in 1605 to the Bartlett family . . . " and "died without issue in 1623 leaving his estate to his brother-in-law, Richard Bonython." He cites the will of Gilbert and parish registers.
    ************************
    Gilbert was eldest son of Thomas Holcombe and Margaret Trethurffe. He Married Ann Courtenay of Votton, Cornwall in about 1594. In about 1600, he sold the Holcombe estate at Hole, Devon, England to Mr Mallock & Ellis Bartlett. The estate was subsequently renamed Down Ralph.


    Gilbert married Anne COURTENAY in 1600 in Votten, Cornwall, England. Anne (daughter of Peter COURTENAY and Katherine RESKYMER) was born in 1573 in Ladock, Cornwall, England; died before 1642 in France. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Children:
    1. 27. Alfred HOLCOMBE  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1605 in Pembroke, Pembrokeshire, Wales; and died.
    2. 28. William HOLCOMBE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1615; died in 1700.
    3. 29. Roger HOLCOMBE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1617; died in 1648.
    4. 30. Gilbert HOLCOMBE  Descendancy chart to this point was born in 1619 in Hole (Hull), Devonshire, England; died in 1619.
    5. 31. Nicholas HOLCOMBE  Descendancy chart to this point was born about 1621; and died.

  7. 12.  Josias HOLCOMBEJosias HOLCOMBE Descendancy chart to this point (5.Margaret3, 3.Reynold2, 1.John1) was born in 1568 in Of Cornwall, England; was christened in Nov; died in in Cornwall, England.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: LHWJ-F3X
    • _UID: D6FDFDE32826466FB7898CD83B57834CBBEF

    Family/Spouse: Katherine BUCKLAND. Katherine and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

    Josias married Katherine LOWMAN about 1598. Katherine and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]


  8. 13.  Robert HOLCOMBERobert HOLCOMBE Descendancy chart to this point (5.Margaret3, 3.Reynold2, 1.John1) was born about 1570; and died.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: LHHQ-SSW
    • _UID: E0D8250561E3471DB60CD22D4F5574A2059D


  9. 14.  Nicholas HOLCOMBENicholas HOLCOMBE Descendancy chart to this point (5.Margaret3, 3.Reynold2, 1.John1) was born in 1570; died in 1628.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 56180D931C754733B65C2611E725358B2E4A


  10. 15.  John HOLCOMBEJohn HOLCOMBE Descendancy chart to this point (5.Margaret3, 3.Reynold2, 1.John1) was born about 1572; and died.

    Other Events:

    • _UID: 236C19BE68634537B89FF6E3A1420A69335D


  11. 16.  Margaret HOLCOMBEMargaret HOLCOMBE Descendancy chart to this point (5.Margaret3, 3.Reynold2, 1.John1) was born about 1574; and died.

    Other Events:

    • FamilySearch ID: LZXF-69B
    • _UID: 4A3F4DB5CC3F47E2A1A0F7091F7494779E8B
  

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