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Carney & Wehofer Family
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Abt 1326 - Aft 1365 (~ 40 years)
Generation: 1
Generation: 2
2. | Sir Walter Of Auchterhouse OGILVY (1.Walter1) was born about 1348 in Lintrathen, Angusshire, Scotland; died about 1392 in Battle Of Glenbrierachan, Perth, Scotland. Other Events:
- TitleOfNobility: ; Sheriff of Angus
- _UID: 75E40CA8FC6E4820BDB010822E631DC450D7
Notes:
Sheriff of Forfar, killed fighting robbers
About Sir Walter Ogilvy of Auchterhouse
Sir Walter Ogilvy, of Auchterhouse; married Isabel, daughter and heir of Sir Malcolm Ramsay; and was killed in a skirmish with robbers 1391. [Burke's Peerage]
From Darryl Lundy's Peerage page on Sir Walter Ogilvy of Auchterhouse:
http://thepeerage.com/p291.htm#i2908
Sir Walter Ogilvy of Auchterhouse [1]
M, #2908,
b. circa 1360,
d. 1392
Last Edited=22 Feb 2011
Sir Walter Ogilvy of Auchterhouse was born circa 1360.[2]
He married Isabel Ramsay, daughter of Sir Malcolm Ramsay, circa 1380.[1],[2]
He died in 1392, killed in action.[1],[3]
He was the son of Walter Ogilvy of Wester Powry and Auchterhouse.[1]
He held the office of Sheriff of Forfarshire.[1]
He lived at Auchterhouse, Angus, Scotland.[1]
He fought in the Battle of Glasklune in 1392, against Highland invaders.[3]
Children of Sir Walter Ogilvy of Auchterhouse and Isabel Ramsay
1. Sir Alexander Ogilvy of Auchterhouse+[1] d. bt 14 Jul 1421 - 2 Oct 1483
2. Sir Walter Ogilvy of Lintrathen+[1] d. 1440
3. John Ogilvy [1]
4. George Ogilvy [3] d. 1411
Child of Sir Walter Ogilvy of Auchterhouse
1. Henry Ogilvy [4]
Citations
1. [S8] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition, 2 volumes (Crans, Switzerland: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 1999), volume 1, page 45. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 106th edition.
2. [S5162] Werner Kittel, "re: Normandy FAmilies," e-mail message to Darryl Roger LUNDY (101053), 4 February 2011. Hereinafter cited as "re: Normanday Families."
3. [S37] Charles Mosley, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Wilmington, Delaware, U.S.A.: Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 1, page 59. Hereinafter cited as Burke's Peerage and Baronetage, 107th edition.
4. [S323] Sir James Balfour Paul, The Scots Peerage: founded on Wood's edition of Sir Robert Douglas's The Peerage of Scotland (Edinburgh, Scotland: David Douglas, 1904), volume I, page 111. Hereinafter cited as The Scots Peerage.
From "Duncan the fat's descendants become Robertsons" by Joe Adair:
http://www.adair.ca/Robertson/Robertson.html
Duncan's son, Robert became second Lord of Struan about 1355. Through his second marriage, he acquired the lands of Stermont. However, his first marriage to the daughter of Sir John Sterling of Glenesk created some friction due to shared inheritance of the lands of Glenesk in Angus with her sister who married Sir Alexander Lindsay. The Lindsays had a son, Sir David Lindsay.
The Lindsays were very powerful, owning 2/3 of Angus County and were overlords of the highland district of Strathnairn. The division of land to the two sisters may have annoyed our chief.
Sir David Lindsay expected trouble from his aunt's family, and quite rightly so as it turned out. He arranged a meeting with Robert to discuss the matter. Robert did not attend. Sir David Lindsay sent a scout to find out what was going on. The scout never returned. Robert did not attend the meeting, instead secretly met with Sir Duncan Stewart who was backed by his men and the Roses from Strathnairn.
Robert had 3 younger half brothers, through their father's second marriage. They were Patrick of Lude, Thomas of Strowan and Gibbon. These brothers led a small army of our clansmen and secretly joined with Sir Duncan Stewart and his men to form an army of over 300 in 1392. They marched into Angus to the east and killed many Lindsays and their Ogilvies allies and their homes were burnt. Three thousand head of Angus cattle were stolen and driven to Rannoch.
The surviving enemy regrouped and caught up with our clan near Blairgowrie. At the battle of Glasclune, the Angus men were defeated, but we suffered heavy losses. The cattle were driven along the valley of Strathardle to our clan territory.
Still the enemy was not content to let it stand. Sir Walter Ogilvie, hereditary Sheriff of Angus, got it in his head that our clan's action was on shaky legal ground. He and his possy joined the retreating Angus men previously defeated and caught up with our men at Glenbrierachan in western Strathardle, six miles northeast of Pitlochry. Sixty mounted knights and sundry others comprised the enemy.
This steel armour and long lances were matched against our array of weapons:
Claymore - large broadsword, sharp on both edges
Targe - small, light shield which sacrifices defense to make offence easier
Dirk - dagger that can be used while the enemy fends off your claymore
We sent the Angus cattle ahead and positioned ourselves on rough ground, difficult for the enemy horses. Thus a charge by the knights with lances lowered would be difficult.
The battle did not last long. Sir David Lindsay had pinned one of our men to the ground. Our clansman pulled himself up using Sir David's own lance and using his claymore, penetrated Sir David's stirrup and armour steel boot to nearly sever Sir David's foot off, having cut through to the bone. Unfortunately, our brave clansman died later of his wounds.
In the quick defeat of the enemy and their subsequent panic, Sir Walter Ogilvie (the now late sheriff), his brother, nearly a dozen knights and about 60 others were killed by our clan. After so much harassment over this simple cattle transaction, our clan realized that
Walter married Isabel RAMSEY about 1377 in Auchterhouse, Forfar, Scotland. Isabel (daughter of Malcom RAMSEY) was born about 1356 in Auchterhouse, Forfar, Scotland; died in in Carcary, Forfar, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 3. Walter OGILVY
was born in 1385 in Auchterhouse, Forfar, Scotland; died in 1440 in Lintrathern, Forfar, Scotland.
- 4. Isabel Or Margaret OGILVY
was born about 1420 in Auchterhouse, Angusshire, Scotland; died after 1471.
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Generation: 3
4. | Isabel Or Margaret OGILVY (2.Walter2, 1.Walter1) was born about 1420 in Auchterhouse, Angusshire, Scotland; died after 1471. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: MM74-HZN
- TitleOfNobility: ; Isabel of Auchterhouse
- Name: Isabel Margaret (Margaretha) Ogilvy
- Name: Margaret Ogilvy
- _UID: AB1B6367B56D475085EB3C93A7FC3991F51A
Isabel married Sir John OLIPHANT, Knight Of Aberdalgy in Aberdalgie, Perth, Scotland. John (son of Sir William Of Gallery OLIPHANT and Lady Isobel STEWART) was born about 1408 in Aberdalgie, Gask, Perthshire, Scotland; died on 23 Jan 1444 in Killed in the Battle of Arbroath, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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Generation: 4
5. | Sir Laurance (Lawrence) OLIPHANT (4.Isabel3, 2.Walter2, 1.Walter1) was born about 1439 in Aberdalgie, Gask, Perthshire, Scotland; died on 8 Apr 1500 in Arbroath, Forfarshire, Scotland. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: LR3L-R8L
- Name: Laurence OLIPHANT OF ABERDALGIE
- Occupation: ; Sheriff of Perth, Lord of Privy Council.
- _UID: CB138BC3282B4FCDB6F4E0387234F6E5DE3B
- TitleOfNobility: 1458, Alberdalgie, Scotland; 1st Lord of Oliphant
- TitleOfNobility: Between 1464 and 1498; 1st Lord Oliphant
Notes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurence_Oliphant,_1st_Lord_Oliphant
Laurence Oliphant, 1st Lord Oliphant (c. 1434 ? 1498) was a Scottish peer.[1][2][3]
Laurence Oliphant was first styled as Lord Oliphant in July 1455, one month after he came of age.
Laurence Oliphant was the eldest son and heir of Sir John Oliphant of Aberdalgie and Isobel, daughter of Sir Walter Ogilvie of Auchterhouse, Hereditary Sheriff of Angus. Born around 1438, his father was killed fighting in a feud between his Ogilvie brother-in-law and the Lindsays on 23 January 1445 when Laurence was seven or eight years old. He had brothers James Oliphant, 1st of Ardchailzie; John Oliphant and sisters Christian who married Alexander Blair of Balthayock; Elizabeth married James Herring of Tullibole and Lethendy and Margaret who married Sir Henry Wardlaw of Torrie.[3] In 1450, King James II granted "the ward and marriage" of Laurence to Sir David Hay of Yester.[4]
References:
Burke's Landed Gentry 19th Edition, The Kingdom in Scotland
Burke's Peerage & Baronetage 107th Edition
The Red Book of Perthshire by Gordon MacGregor
The Oliphants in Scotland
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Laurence Oliphant, 1st Lord of Oliphant married Elizabeth Cunningham, daughter of Sir Humphrey Cunningham and Marjorie Scot; His 2nd wife.3,4 Laurence Oliphant, 1st Lord of Oliphant married Isabel Hay, daughter of Sir William Hay, 1st Earl of Erroll, 2nd Lord Hay, Constable of Scotland and Beatrix Douglas, before 20 May 1472.5 Laurence Oliphant, 1st Lord of Oliphant died between 1 February 1499 and 8 April 1500.1
Family 1
Elizabeth Cunningham
Family 2
Isabel Hay
Children
John Oliphant, 2nd Lord of Oliphant+1 d. bt 12 Apr 1516 - 18 Nov 1516
William Oliphant2,6
Isabella Oliphant+
Isabel Oliphant+7 b. c 1476
Per Our royal, titled, noble...com sources
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father: Laurence Oliphant 1440? Death before April 8, 1500 (Age 60) Killed At Arbroath, Scotland
mother: Elizabeth Cunningham 1450?
daughter: Isabella Oliphant, 1480?
Laurence's family with second wife Isabel Hay, 1440
half-brother: John Oliphant, 1460? 1516
half-sister: Isabel Oliphant, 1472?
half-brother: William Oliphant, 1475? 1508
Per http://myfamilytree.scot/webtrees/individual.php?pid=I354145&ged=tree3 sources
Laurance married Lady Isabel HAY on 20 May 1472 in Forfarshire, Scotland. Isabel (daughter of William HAY, Earl Of Errol and Lady Beatrice DOUGLAS, Countess of Erroll) was born in 1441 in Errol, Perthshire, Scotland; died on 27 Jun 1509 in Perth, Perthshire, Scotland, United Kingdom; was buried in Gask, , Angus, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 8. Isabel OLIPHANT
was born in 1446 in Perthshire, Scotland; died about 1525 in Stirling, Stirlingshire, Scotland.
- 9. Matthew Oliphant OF GASK
was born after 1450 in Gask, Perthshire, Scotland; died on 12 Apr 1516 in Scotland.
- 10. Lady Euphemia OLIPHANT
was born in Jan 1456 in Findo Gask, Perthshire, Scotland; died in 1525 in Stirling, Stirlingshire, Scotland.
- 11. John OLIPHANT
was born about 1461 in Abergeldie Castle, Abergeldie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland; died on 9 Sep 1513 in Flodden Field, Branxton, Northumberland, England.
- 12. Sir John OLIPHANT, Baron Olip
was born about 1465 in Forfar, Angus, Scotland; died in 1516 in Scotland.
- 13. William OLIPHANT
was born about 1470 in Gask, Angus, Scotland; died in 1509 in Berridale, Caithness, Scotland; was buried in 1509 in Scotland.
- 14. George OLIPHANT
was born in 1479 in Gask, Inverness-shire, Scotland, United Kingdom,; and died.
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6. | Christian OLIPHANT (4.Isabel3, 2.Walter2, 1.Walter1) was born about 1441; died before 26 Jan 1517 in Balthayock, Perth, Scotland, United Kingdom. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: LR2W-GVV
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