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Abt 1365 - 1439 (~ 74 years)
Generation: 1
Generation: 2
2. | Lady Isobel STEWART (1.Isobel1) was born in 1378 in Tullibardine Perthshire, Scotland; died on 26 Oct 1446 in Perth, Perthshire, Scotland. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: 9Q8X-QZ4
- Name: Christian Stuart
- Name: Isabel "Countess of Tullibardine?
- _UID: C539C29B70BB4FD9803E9781B696D7C970F4
Notes:
When Lady Isabel Stewart was born in 1378 in Innermeath and Lorn, Argyllshire, Scotland, her father, John, was 20, and her mother, Isabel, was 16. She married David Murray and they had one son together. She also had one son and two daughters with William Oliphant. She died on October 26, 1446, in Tullibardine, Perth, Perthshire, Scotland, at the age of 68.
Isobel married David Of Tullibardine MURRAY in 1394 in Perth, Perthshire, Scotland. David and died. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Isobel married Sir William Of Gallery OLIPHANT in 1394 in Innermeath, Perth, Scotland. William (son of Sir John OLIPHANT and Lady Filia BORTHWICK) was born in 1379 in Perth, Perthshire, Scotland; died after 3 Dec 1425 in London, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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Generation: 3
6. | Sir John OLIPHANT, Knight Of Aberdalgy (2.Isobel2, 1.Isobel1) was born about 1408 in Aberdalgie, Gask, Perthshire, Scotland; died on 23 Jan 1444 in Killed in the Battle of Arbroath, Scotland. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: L5YR-QRG
- Name: John Oliphant
- _UID: F4ABFB9AC41C4DBC95774BCF3E9EE29B9CBA
Notes:
23 Jan 1444
Killed in the Battle of Arbroath
He was killed at Arbroath on 24 January, 1445, assisting the Ogilvies against the Lindsays of Crawford in a dispute which had arisen as to the ownership of the office of Bailie of Arborath Abbey.
Battle of Arbroath
Part of Gordon ? Lindsay feud
Arbroath Abbey - geograph.org.uk - 3180.jpg
Arbroath Abbey where the battle took place
Date24 January 1445 or 1446
LocationArbroath, Scotland
ResultVictory for Alexander Lindsay, Master of Crawford
Belligerents
Clan Ogilvy
Clan Gordon
Clan Oliphant
Clan Seton
Clan ForbesClan Lindsay
Commanders and leaders
Alexander Ogilvy, 2nd Baron of InverquharityAlexander Lindsay, Master of Crawford
Casualties and losses
500.[1]At least 100.[1]
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Clan Gordon-Clan Lindsay feud
The Battle of Arbroath was fought on 24 January 1445 (or by another version in 1446) at Arbroath in Scotland. It was between rivals claimants to the post of Baillie of the Regality.[1]
Contents
Background
The conflict began after the monks of the Abbey of Aborath, appointed Alexander Lindsay, Alexander Lindsay, Master of Crawford as the "Bailie of the Regality", a position charged with dispensing justice throughout the domain of the monastery.[2]
The monks soon regretted the appointment, as the Master of Crawford began quartering large numbers of his men in the abbey, whose behavior vile and cruel.[2]. The monks described the Master of Crawford as "uneasy to convent", and soon dismissed the Master of Crawford.[2] Afterwards the appointed Alexander Ogilvy, 2nd Baron of Inverquharity, as Bailie.[2] It should be noted that Alexander Ogilvy not only had the right of election, but also had hereditary claims to the office.[2] The Master of Crawford disputed the rights Ogilvy had to the position.[2] When unable to reconcile the dispute, he arbitrated with the sword.[2]
The Master of Crawford, who would become the 4th Earl of Crawford, was the son of David Lindsay, 3rd Earl of Crawford, and son of Marjory Ogilvy, daughter of Alexander Ogilvie of Auchterhouse.[3]
The battle
On 24 January 1445, the Master of Crawford arrived at the gates of the abbey with over one thousand men, mostly Lindsays, including a group of Hamiltons from Clydesdale.[2] Alexander Ogilvy of Inverquharity, was fortunate that he was entertaining guests on the day of the attack; Alexander Gordon, 1st Earl of Huntly, Sir John Oliphant of Aberdagie, Maxwell of Tealing, Brucklay of Gartley, Forbes of Pitsligo, and Gordon of Borrowfield, were all in the Baron's company.[2] Though outnumbered, Ogilvy and his allies drew up the lines of battle.[2] Alexander Ogilvy's force was supported by men from Clan Oliphant, Clan Seton, Clan Gordon and Clan Forbes.[2]
Meanwhile, the Earl of Crawford rode with great haste from Dundee in order to prevent hostilities.[2] The Earl rode across the field, between the two armies, to confer with Ogilvy.[2] but one of the men assembled under Ogilvy, mistook his approach for hostilities, threw a spear which struck the Earl in the mouth, killing him instantly.[2] Although an accident, this ended any chance for a peaceful resolution.[2] The battle began, both lines with spears at the ready.[2] It is said in an account of the battle by Buchanan, that the Lindsays cried out "Why do you bring those goads with you, as if you had to do with oxen? Pray, throw them away, and let us fight it out with out swords, hand to hand, by true valour, as becomes men."[2] As a result, both sides abandoned their spears, with the exception of a hundred of the Clydesdale men, who held the points of their spears in their hands behind them.[2] When they entered combat, the Clydesdale men held the spears out, creating a spear wall, which broke the ranks of the Ogilvy line.[2]
The Ogilvy force retreated, and made a last desperate stand about three miles away, at the village of Leysmill, where they rallied and turned to face the pursuers.[2] This second battle raged into the night, and Ogilvy and Pitsligo fell.[2] The Lindsays, though victorious, suffered heavy casualties at Leysmill, and were unable to pursue the Ogilvys further when they fell back to Kinnell, the men carrying the bodies of Ogilvy and Pitsligo with them.[2] It was determined that the body of Ogilvy should be interred in the aisle of the church in Kinnell.[2] This couplet was engraved on the aisle where he was buried: "While the girss grows green and the water rins clear, Let nane but Ogilvys lie here".[2]
Aftermath
Though the battle ended in Clan Lindsay's favor, they lost a disproportionate number of men, and the Earl of Crawford.[2] Alexander Ogilvy, Forbes of Pitsligo, Brucklay of Gartley, Gordon of Borrowfield, and Sir John Oliphant of Aberdalgie perished.[2]
Following the battle, the Master of Crawford, who would later be known as "The Tiger Earl of Crawford", unleashed what remained of his army upon the lands of his enemies: "and the flames of their castles, the slaughter of their vassals, the plunder of their property, and the captivity of their wives and children, instructed the remotest adherents of the Bailie of Aborath, how terrible was the vengeance which they had provoked."[2]
From this time forward, clan Lindsay had an aversion to the color green, and from the battle originated the couplet: "An Ogilvy in Green, Should never be seen".[2] It appears to have become a curse to the Lindsays, who were later defeated at the Battle of Brechin against the Earl of Huntley.[2] The Earl of Crawford attributed this loss to the Lindsays being dressed primarily in green, much like the Ogilvys at Arborath.[2]
The body of Alexander Ogilvy, 2nd Baron of Inverquharity, was uncovered at the Church of Kinnell in 1885, during a demolition. A local tale stated that for hundreds of years, the large boots and spurs of the Baron hung over the aisle.[2] The remains found were of a "gigantic" man, confirming the stories of the great stature of Ogilvy.[2] The spur, having been recovered, now sits in the vestibule of the present church at Kinnell.[2]
John married Isabel Or Margaret OGILVY in Aberdalgie, Perth, Scotland. Isabel (daughter of Sir Walter Of Auchterhouse OGILVY and Isabel RAMSEY) was born about 1420 in Auchterhouse, Angusshire, Scotland; died after 1471. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
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Generation: 4
7. | Sir Laurance (Lawrence) OLIPHANT (6.John3, 2.Isobel2, 1.Isobel1) was born about 1439 in Aberdalgie, Gask, Perthshire, Scotland; died on 8 Apr 1500 in Arbroath, Forfarshire, Scotland. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: LR3L-R8L
- Name: Laurence OLIPHANT OF ABERDALGIE
- Occupation: ; Sheriff of Perth, Lord of Privy Council.
- _UID: CB138BC3282B4FCDB6F4E0387234F6E5DE3B
- TitleOfNobility: 1458, Alberdalgie, Scotland; 1st Lord of Oliphant
- TitleOfNobility: Between 1464 and 1498; 1st Lord Oliphant
Notes:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laurence_Oliphant,_1st_Lord_Oliphant
Laurence Oliphant, 1st Lord Oliphant (c. 1434 ? 1498) was a Scottish peer.[1][2][3]
Laurence Oliphant was first styled as Lord Oliphant in July 1455, one month after he came of age.
Laurence Oliphant was the eldest son and heir of Sir John Oliphant of Aberdalgie and Isobel, daughter of Sir Walter Ogilvie of Auchterhouse, Hereditary Sheriff of Angus. Born around 1438, his father was killed fighting in a feud between his Ogilvie brother-in-law and the Lindsays on 23 January 1445 when Laurence was seven or eight years old. He had brothers James Oliphant, 1st of Ardchailzie; John Oliphant and sisters Christian who married Alexander Blair of Balthayock; Elizabeth married James Herring of Tullibole and Lethendy and Margaret who married Sir Henry Wardlaw of Torrie.[3] In 1450, King James II granted "the ward and marriage" of Laurence to Sir David Hay of Yester.[4]
References:
Burke's Landed Gentry 19th Edition, The Kingdom in Scotland
Burke's Peerage & Baronetage 107th Edition
The Red Book of Perthshire by Gordon MacGregor
The Oliphants in Scotland
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Laurence Oliphant, 1st Lord of Oliphant married Elizabeth Cunningham, daughter of Sir Humphrey Cunningham and Marjorie Scot; His 2nd wife.3,4 Laurence Oliphant, 1st Lord of Oliphant married Isabel Hay, daughter of Sir William Hay, 1st Earl of Erroll, 2nd Lord Hay, Constable of Scotland and Beatrix Douglas, before 20 May 1472.5 Laurence Oliphant, 1st Lord of Oliphant died between 1 February 1499 and 8 April 1500.1
Family 1
Elizabeth Cunningham
Family 2
Isabel Hay
Children
John Oliphant, 2nd Lord of Oliphant+1 d. bt 12 Apr 1516 - 18 Nov 1516
William Oliphant2,6
Isabella Oliphant+
Isabel Oliphant+7 b. c 1476
Per Our royal, titled, noble...com sources
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father: Laurence Oliphant 1440? Death before April 8, 1500 (Age 60) Killed At Arbroath, Scotland
mother: Elizabeth Cunningham 1450?
daughter: Isabella Oliphant, 1480?
Laurence's family with second wife Isabel Hay, 1440
half-brother: John Oliphant, 1460? 1516
half-sister: Isabel Oliphant, 1472?
half-brother: William Oliphant, 1475? 1508
Per http://myfamilytree.scot/webtrees/individual.php?pid=I354145&ged=tree3 sources
Laurance married Lady Isabel HAY on 20 May 1472 in Forfarshire, Scotland. Isabel (daughter of William HAY, Earl Of Errol and Lady Beatrice DOUGLAS, Countess of Erroll) was born in 1441 in Errol, Perthshire, Scotland; died on 27 Jun 1509 in Perth, Perthshire, Scotland, United Kingdom; was buried in Gask, , Angus, Scotland. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 10. Isabel OLIPHANT was born in 1446 in Perthshire, Scotland; died about 1525 in Stirling, Stirlingshire, Scotland.
- 11. Matthew Oliphant OF GASK was born after 1450 in Gask, Perthshire, Scotland; died on 12 Apr 1516 in Scotland.
- 12. Lady Euphemia OLIPHANT was born in Jan 1456 in Findo Gask, Perthshire, Scotland; died in 1525 in Stirling, Stirlingshire, Scotland.
- 13. John OLIPHANT was born about 1461 in Abergeldie Castle, Abergeldie, Aberdeenshire, Scotland; died on 9 Sep 1513 in Flodden Field, Branxton, Northumberland, England.
- 14. Sir John OLIPHANT, Baron Olip was born about 1465 in Forfar, Angus, Scotland; died in 1516 in Scotland.
- 15. William OLIPHANT was born about 1470 in Gask, Angus, Scotland; died in 1509 in Berridale, Caithness, Scotland; was buried in 1509 in Scotland.
- 16. George OLIPHANT was born in 1479 in Gask, Inverness-shire, Scotland, United Kingdom,; and died.
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8. | Christian OLIPHANT (6.John3, 2.Isobel2, 1.Isobel1) was born about 1441; died before 26 Jan 1517 in Balthayock, Perth, Scotland, United Kingdom. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: LR2W-GVV
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