Margaret DE NORFOLK, Duchess of Norfolk

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• FamilySearch ID: LTKH-4FN

Family/Spouse: John DE SEGRAVE, 4th Baron Segrave. John was born on 4 May 1315 in Croxton Abbey, Leicester, England; died on 1 Apr 1353 in Repton, Derbyshire, England; was buried in Apr 1353 in Chacombe Priory, Chacombe, South Northamptonshire Borough, Northamptonshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• FamilySearch ID: LTDJ-X1W
• Name: Elizabeth DE MOWBRAY
• _UID: 502A2D32AD974CE788CC55EEC21FE0C76F8A
• TitleOfNobility: 1338, Segrave, Leicestershire, England; 5th Baroness Segrave

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Elizabeth, Lady Segrave, b. 25 Oct 1338, dead 1368, daughter of John, Lord Segrave, by Margaret, daughter of Thomas de Brotherton, Earl of Norfolk, son of Edward I. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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Elizabeth de Segrave, who m. John de Mowbray, 4th Baron Mowbray (slain near Constantinople on his way to the Holy Land in 1368), and had issue, John, and Thomas. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 485, Segrave, Barons Segrave of Barton Segrave]

ELIZABETH de Segrave (Croxton Abbey 25 Oct 1338-before 1368). A manuscript record of the Mowbray family states that "Johannes filius [Johannis]" married "filiam et h?redem domini de Segrave?Elizabetha"[1073]. m (1349) JOHN Mowbray, son of JOHN Mowbray Lord Mowbray & his wife Joan of Lancaster (Epworth 25 Jun 1340-killed in battle [Palestine] 1368). He succeeded his father as Lord Mowbray. [Medieval Lands.]

Elizabeth married John de MOWBRAY about 1349. John (son of John 3Rd Baron De MOWBRAY, Of Thirsk, Sir and Joan PLANTAGENET) was born on 25 Jun 1340 in Epworth, Isle Of Axholme, Lincolnshire, England; died on 17 Jun 1368 in Thrace, Byzantium, Turkey. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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From soc.genealogy.medieval:

Dear Newsgroup ~

The immigrants Robert Abell, Richard More of the Mayflower and Rev. John Oxenbridge are lineal descendants of Reginald Lucy, died 1437, of Dallington, co. Northampton, and his wife, Margaret. Until now, Margaret Lucy's identity and parentage have been unknown. However, recently I came across this couple's marriage license in an obscure episcopal register:

"Kal. Jul. [1 July] 1369. At Heywod. To Reginald de Lucy, son of Sir Geoffrey de Lucy, and Margaret, daughter of Sir John de Moubrey, to be married in the chapel within Bretteby [Bretby] Castle [co. Derby]" [Reference: Lichfield Episcopal Registers, Register of [Bishop] Robert de Stretton, published in William Salt Archaeological Society, n.s., 8 (1905): 47].

As indicated by the license quoted above, the bride's name was Margaret Mowbray, daughter of Sir John de Mowbray. Due to the name, chronology and place of marriage, Margaret Mowbray can be readily identified as a hitherto unknown daughter of Sir John de Mowbray, 4th Lord Mowbray, by his wife, Elizabeth, daughter and heiress of John de Segrave, 4th Lord Segrave, of Bretby Castle, co. Derby.

In this case, the place of marriage is significant as Bretby Castle was one of the holdings of the Segrave family and fell to Mowbray family on the marriage of Elizabeth Segrave to John de Mowbray, 4th Lord Mowbray. This was presumably one of the Segrave family's principal residences, as Elizabeth's father, John de Segrave, prepared his will in 1352 at Bretby [Reference: Complete Peerage, 11 (1949): 609]. I assume this license was missed by Lucy and Mowbray researchers as the Lucy family was seated principally at Northampton, whereas the Mowbray family's chief holdings were in cos. Lincoln and York. One would not expect to look in Derbyshire for a marriage license for this couple.

The newly discovered Margaret Mowbray gives the immigrants, Robert Abell, Richard More and John Oxenbridge an all new descent from King Edward I plus many other interesting connections. For newsgroup interest, I have prepared the descent down to Robert Abell. For fuller particulars of the Lucy and allied families, please see the forthcoming 3rd edition of Plantagenet Ancestry.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Margaret married Reynold (Reginald) LUCY, Of Dallington, Sir on 1 Jul 1369 in Bretby Castle, Derbyshire, England. Reynold (son of Geoffrey DE LUCY and Katherine GREY) was born before 1360 in Cublington, Buckinghamshire, England; died on 9 Nov 1437 in Dallington, Northamptonshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• FamilySearch ID: LB31-5XF
• _UID: D0FD3356264F4A6393985625A24D9087241A

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Eleanor, sister of John (DE MOWBRAY), EARL OF NOTTINGHAM, and of Thomas (DE MOWBRAY), DUKE OF NORFOLK and EARL MARSHAL, 1st daughter of John, 4th LORD MOWBRAY, by Elizabeth, suo jure (according to modern doctrine) BARONESS SEGRAVE, daughter and heir of John (DE SEGRAVE), 4th LORD SEGRAVE. She, who was born shortly before 25 March 1364, may have been living in 1399. [Complete Peerage]

Eleanor married John 5Th Baron De WELLES, Sir Knight before May 1386 in 1st Wife?. John was born on 20 Apr 1352 in Conisholme, Lincolnshire, England; died on 24 Aug 1421. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• FamilySearch ID: GJJ5-THR
• Government: Duke of Norfolk
• Name: Robert GOUSHILL
• _UID: ABE7E75351B644CF928F1A59CE26E5C013A5
• TitleOfNobility: 1383; Barons Mowbray & Segrave
• Alt. Burial: Sep 1399, Saint George Abbey, Venice, Provincia Di Venezia, Veneto, Italy

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Sir Thomas de Mowbray, KG, b. 22 Mar 1365/6, d. Venice, 22 Sep 1399, Lord Mowbray, Segrave, and Stourton, Earl of Nottingham 1383, Earl Marshal of England 1384, Duke of Norfolk 1397; m. (1) Elizabeth, Baroness Strange of Blackmere, dsp 1383; m. (2) July 1384, Elizabeth Fitz Alan. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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Thomas de Mowbray [succeeded elder brother John, died unmarried just prior to 12 Feb 1382/3], 6th Lord (Baron) Mowbray and 7th Lord (Baron) Segrave, also 1st Duke of Norfolk, so created 29 Sep 1397, as also earlier 12 Feb 1382/3 Earl of Nottingham and 12 Jan 1385/6 Earl Marshal; in addition 3rd Earl of Norfolk (as which succeeded his grandmother 24 March 1398/9), KG (c1383); born 22 March 1365/6; Marshal of England 1385; served against the Scots 1385 and a Franco-Hispanic-Flemish fleet off Margate March 1386/7, a Lord Appellant 1387/8; Keeper of Berwick and Roxburgh and Warden of the East March 1389; Captain in Calais Feb 1390/1-95/6; King's Lt in Artois, Calais, Flanders and Picardy 1392; Jt Ambassador to France Feb 1396/7 and Rhine Palatinate June 1397; quarreled with the Duke of Hereford (later Henry IV), each accusing the other of treason; both banished 1398; after his old enemy had usurped the throne as Henry IV the conferring of the Dukedom of Norfolk was annulled by Parliament 6 Oct 1399; married 1st 15 March 1382/3 Elizabeth (dsp 23 Aug 1383), daughter and heiress of 1st Lord (Baron) Strange of the 1360 creation; married 2nd July 1384 Elizabeth (married 3rd by 19 Aug 1401 Sir Robert Goushill (by whom she was mother of Elizabeth, who married Sir Robert Wingfield, of Letheringham) and 4th by 3 July 1414 Sir Gerard Usflete and died 8 July 1425, leaving further issue), widow of Sir William de Montagu (dsp), eldest son of the Earl of Salisbury, and daughter of 11th/4th Earl of Arundel, and died of plague in Venice 22 Sep 1399. [Burke's Peerage]

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Thomas de Mowbray, 6th baron, then seventeen years of age, who was created Earl of Nottingham, as his brother had been, by charter, dated 12 February, 1383, and three years afterwards was constituted Earl Marshal by reason of his descent from Thomas, of Brotherton, his lordship being the first who had the title of earl attached to the office. In the 10th Richard II [1387], his lordship participated in the naval victory achieved by Richard, Earl of Arundel, over the French and Spaniards, and the subsequent conquest of the battle of Brest. In the 16th of the same reign, he was made governor of Calais, and in four years afterwards obtained the king's charter of confirmation of the office of earl marshal of England to the heirs male of his body, and that they, by reason of the said office, should bear a golden truncheon, enameled with black at each end, having at the upper end the kings arms, and at the lower, their own arms engraven thereon. Moreover, he stood in such favour that the king, acknowledging his just and hereditary title to bear for his crest a golden leopard with a white label, which of right belonged to the king's eldest son, did, by letters patent, grant to him and his heirs authority to bear the golden leopard for his crest, with a coronet of silver about his neck instead of the label; and the same year appointed him justice of Chester and Flintshire for life. In the 18th Richard, he attended the king into Ireland, but, afterwards siding with the parasites who controlled that weak and unfortunate prince, he not only aided in the destruction of his father-in-law, Richard, Earl of Arundel -- being one of the chief persons that guarded the unhappy nobleman to the place of execution -- but he is also accused of being an accomplice in the murder of Thomas, of Woodstock, Duke of Gloucester, the king's uncle. Certain it is that he was at this period in high estimation with the prevailing party and obtained a grant of all the lands of the unfortunate Lord Arundel, with those of Thomas Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick, which had also vested in the crown be forfeiture. These grants bore date 28 September, 1396, and the next day he was created Duke of Norfolk (his grandmother, Margaret, Duchess of Norfolk, being still alive). Prosperous, however, as this nobleman's career had hitherto been, it was doomed eventually to a disgraceful termination. Henry, Duke of Hereford (afterwards Henry IV), having accused his Grace of Norfolk, of speaking disrespectfully of the king, a challenge ensued, and a day was named for the combat, when the lists were accordingly set up at Gosford Green, Coventry, and the king and court were present, but just as the combatants were about to engage and the charge had been sounded, Richard interfered, and by the advice of his council, prohibited the conflict, banishing the Duke of Hereford for ten years,m and the Duke of Norfolk for life -- who, thereupon going abroad, d. at Venice, of the pestilence, but, according to Sandford, of grief, in 1400. The duke, who along with his other great honours, was a knight of the Garter, m. 1st, Elizabeth, dau. of John, Lord Strange, of Blackmere, but had no issue; he m. 2ndly, Lady Elizabeth FitzAlan, dau. of Richard, Earl of Arundel, sister and co-heir of Thomas, Earl of Arundel, and widow of William de Montacute, by whom he had issue, Thomas, John, Isabel, Margaret, and Elizabeth. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 387, Mowbray, Earls of Nottingham, Dukes of Norfolk, Earls-Marshal, Earls of Warren and Surrey]

Thomas, 6th Lord Mowbray, created after the decease of his brother, Earl of Nottingham and Duke of Norfolk, Earl Marshal, and K.G. His grace, for his military services, was authorised to bear for his crest a golden leopard with a coronet of silver. In 1398 he was accused by Henry Bolingbroke, Earl of Hereford, of having spoken slanderously of the king, when he charged with a design of destroying the principal members of the nobility. Norfolk denied the accusations and desired Hereford to prove its truth in single combat. The lists were set at Coventry in the presence of the king and the peers of the disputants, but on the eve of the contest the king interposed and forbade the combat. Both Norfolk and Hereford were banished, the former for life and the other for ten years. Norfolk d. of the plague at Venice in 1399. By his first wife, Elizabeth, dau. and heir of John, Lord Strange, of Blackmere, he had no issue. By his second wife, Elizabeth, dau. and co-heir of Richard FitzAlan, Earl of Arundel and Surrey, he left two sons and two daus., viz., Thomas, John, Margaret, and Isabel. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited, and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, 1883, p. 485, Segrave, Barons Segrave of Barton Segrave]

Thomas married Elizabeth Baroness Le STRANGE on 15 Mar 1382-1383 in 1st Wife. Elizabeth was born on 6 Dec 1356 in Blakemere, Weobley, Herefordshire, England; died on 23 Aug 1383 in Chawton, Hampshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Thomas married Elizabeth FITZALAN between 6 and 7 Jul 1384 in 2ND Husband, 2ND Wife. Elizabeth (daughter of Richard FITZALAN, 4th Earl of Arundel and Elizabeth DE BOHUN) was born in 1366 in Arundel Castle, Arundel, Sussex, England; died on 8 Jul 1425 in Hoveringham, Nottinghamshire, England; was buried on 9 Jul 1425 in Hoveringham, Nottinghamshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• FamilySearch ID: L6T8-ZKL
• _UID: C26DEEED26294403BF640BAB60F5C773088B

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Jane de Mowbray; m. Sir Thomas Gray of Wark. [Ancestral Roots]

Joan de Mowbray; m. Sir Thomas Grey of Heaton, d. c 30 Nov 1400. [Magna Charta Sureties]

Note: Sometimes it is hard to recognize that these two sources are talking about the same people.

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Said to be daughter of John de Mowbray and Elizabeth de Segrave. 4 sons & 1 daughter

There are at least two sources which identity Thomas Gray's wife, Joan, as the daughter of John de Mowbray. The first source is the Visitation of the North taken c. 1480-1500 in which Joan is called "Ionetta filia Johannes Moubray." [Reference: Surtees Soc., 144 (1930): 53-54]. The visitation is one of the earliest visitations on record and one of the best in my opinion.

The second source is the monumental inscription of Joan (Mowbray) Gray's son, Henry Gray, which reads as follows:
"Here lyeth Syr Henry Grey, the sonne of Syre Thomas Grey, and Jone, hys wyf, that was systere to the Duke of Norfolk, that dyed at Venis." [Reference: Scott, Memorials of the Family of Scott (1876), p. 126
footnote p].

The Duke of Norfolk who died in Venice was Thomas Mowbray, Duke of Norfolk, who died there of pestilence in 1399. He was the son of John de Mowbray, 4th Lord Mowbray, and his wife, Elizabeth de Segrave.

I trust that answers your question.

Best always, Douglas Richardson, Salt Lake City, Utah

Joan married Thomas GREY, Of Heton & Wark, Sir in 1st Husband. Thomas was born about 1359 in Heaton Castle, Wark-On-Tweed, Northumberland, England; died about 30 Nov 1400. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Joan married Thomas TUNSTALL, Of Thurland, Sir before 30 Nov 1402 in 2ND Husband, 2ND Wife. Thomas was born about 1358 in Thurland Manor, Tunstall, Lancashire, England; died on 5 Nov 1415 in Thurland Castle, Tunstall, Lancashire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• FamilySearch ID: GQ1H-C87
• _UID: 74C9509FAFBE43779E17CF1FF05E24238BF0

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WALTER LUCY, son and heir, was aged 40 and (much] more when he succeeded his father. His marriage made him a landowner in the West of England; as early as 1415 he was a commissioner in the marches of Wales, and later justice of the peace, and commisioner on several occasions in Hereford, Salop, and Worcs. In 1416 he was a knight, though it was as plain Walter Lucy, of Richard's Castle, that he had protection on going to the French war, January 1419/20, in the company of the Earl of March.

He married, in or before May 1385, Eleanor, elder daughter and coheir of Sir Warin ARCEDEKNE, by Elizabeth, daughter of Sir John TALBOT, of Richard's Castle. He died 4 October 1444. His widow died 20 July 1447. [Complete Peerage VIII:261-2, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Walter married Eleanor L' ARCEDEKNE before May 1385 in Cornwall, England. Eleanor was born in 1383 in Richard's Castle, Ludlow, Herefordshire, England; died on 20 Jul 1447. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• _UID: 6DFDC46251614327ADAD214B49DBDB047518

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[IVES (or EON) DE WELLES, son and heir apparent, by 1st wife, took part in the rebellion of 1405, for which he was fined 100 marks and pardoned, 7 August 1405. He had licence to travel abroad, 20 December 1407. He married Maud, daughter of Ralph (DE GREYSTOKE), 3rd LORD GREYSTOKE, by Katherine, daughter of Roger (DE CLIFFORD), 5th LORD CLIFFORD. He died v.p.] [Complete Peerage XII/2:443, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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Eudo de Welles, d. bef. 26 Aug 1421, oldest son of John de Welles & wife Eleanor, daughter of John de Mowbray by wife Elizabeth de Seagrave. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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Eudo m. Maude, dau. of Ralph, Lord Greystock. [Sir Bernard Burke, Dormant, Abeyant, Forfeited and Extinct Peerages, Burke's Peerage, Ltd., London, England, 1883, p. 572, Welles, Barons Welles]

Died:
(Dvp)

Family/Spouse: Maud De GREYSTOKE. Maud was born in 1390 in Greystoke, Cumberland, England; died in 1416. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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John de Mowbray [succeeded elder brother Thomas beheaded (dsp) without trial 8 June 1405 for involvement in plot against Henry IV], 8th Lord (Baron) Mowbray and 9th Lord (Baron) Segrave, also 3rd Earl of Nottingham, 5th Earl of Norfolk and Earl Marshal, KG (1421), PC (1422); born 1392; served last phase of Hundred Years War; restored as 2nd Duke of Norfolk 30 April 1425; married 12 Jan 1411/2 Lady Katherine Nevill(e), daughter of 1st Earl of Westmorland, and died 19 Oct 1432. [Burke's Peerage]

John married Katherine NEVILLE on 12 Jan 1411-1412 in 1st Husband. Katherine was born about 1397 in Raby Castle, Durham, England; died after Jan 1477-1478. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• FamilySearch ID: 9KBD-B1T
• _UID: C5CFF0D9347B429788000FC5537B4386D86E

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Lady Margaret de Mowbray, elder daughter of 1st Duke of Norfolk of the 1397 creation by his 2nd wife Elizabeth Fitz Alan. [Burke's Peerage]

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Margaret de Mowbray; m. c 1420, Sir Robert Howard, KG, b. c 1383, d. 1436, of Stoke-by-Nayland, Suffolk, son of Sir John Howard. [Magna Charta Sureties]

Margaret married Robert HOWARD in 1420 in Norfolk, England. Robert (son of John HOWARD and Alice TENDRING) was born about 1385 in Stoke Neyland, Suffolk, England; died on 1 Apr 1436 in Stoke By Nayland, Suffolk, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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• FamilySearch ID: K4F4-GKQ
• Name: Isabelle DE MOWBRAY
• _UID: EF6E4BF508594F7984C749F86B6F48C438E3

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Note: "Some Correction & Additions to CP", citing CP IX:610 note (c), suggests that Isabel may have been a younger daughter than her sister Margaret (because it was Margaret's son who became Duke of Norfolk), despite all the sources that have Isabel as eldest daughter.

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Isabel, widow of Henry Ferrers, son and heir of William, Lord Ferrers of Groby, and 1st daughter and in issue coheir of Thomas de Mowbray, Duke of Norfolk. She died a prisoner of Margaret, Countess of Shrewsbury, 2nd wife of John Talbot, Earl of Shrewsbury, and step-mother of James Berkeley's 4th wife. She [Margaret] was granddaughter and coheir of Thomas Berkeley, Lord Berkeley, uncle of James, from whom the title had passed to James. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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Isabel de Mowbray, d. 27 Sep 1452; m. (2) 1423/4, James de Berkeley, Lord Berkeley, b. c 1394, d. Nov 1463, MP 1421-1461 (son of Sir James de Berkeley, b. c 1353/4, dvf 13 June 1405 (elder brother & male heir of Sir Thomas de Berkeley, Lord Berkeley), and Elizabeth, daughter and heir of Sir John Blouet of Raglan, co. Monmouth, both sons of Maurice de Berkeley by Elizabeth Despencer [sic.], daughter of Sir Hugh le Despencer [sic.] and Alianore de Clare. [Magna Charta Sureties]

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Isabel Mowbray (died 27 Sep 1452), eldest daughter of 1st Duke of Norfolk of the 1396 creation and widow of Henry Ferrers (dvp 1394), son and heir of 5th Lord (Baron) Ferrers (of Groby). [Burke's Peerage]

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He [James de Berkeley] married, 3rdly, 1423-24, Isabel, widow of Henry FERRERS, son and heir apparent of William, Lord FERRERS (of Groby), and 1st daughter (whose issue became coheirs) of Thomas (DE MOWBRAY), DUKE OF NORFOLK, by Elizabeth, da. of RICHARD (FITZ ALAN), EARL OF ARUNDEL. She was, while about to appeal to the King in Council on behalf of her husband, arrested by order of Margaret, Countess of Shrewsbury (granddaughter and coheir of the last Lord Berkeley), and imprisoned at Gloucester, where she died 27 September 1452, and was buried in the church of the Greyfriars there. [Complete Peerage II:132-3, XIV:87, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

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He [Henry Ferrers] married, shortly before 13 July 1416, Isabel, 1st daughter of Thomas (MOUBRAY), DUKE, or NORFOLK and EARL MARSHAL, by his 2nd wife, Elizabeth D'ARUNDELLE, sister and coheir of Thomas EARL OF ARUNDEL and 1st daughter of Richard EARL OF ARUNDEL. He died v.p. and s.p.m. His widow married, in or before 3 Hen. VI, as 2nd wife, Sir James BERKELEY, of Berkeley, co. Gloucester [LORD BERKELEY]. She died in Gloucester Castle, being then a prisoner there 23 September 1452, and was buried in the Church of the Grey Friars at Gloucester. He, who was born at Raglan, co. Monmouth, about 1394, died in Berkeley Castle shortly before 5 December 1463, and was buried in Berkeley Church. [Complete Peerage V:357-8, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Note: Funny how some authors for CP (and other publications) like to fancy up the names "Moubray", "Arundelle", etc. It just adds to the difficulty (unnecessarily) of genealogy. Compare this entry to the similar one just above it for James de Berkely from CP. Rather than creating showy names, the author (G. W. Watson) of this article could have spent more productive time coming up with an approximate birth or death date for Henry. If the author was trying to stick close to the original spelling in certain documents, then why not "Richardus" instead of "Richard", or "Isabela" instead of "Isabel", or "Jacoba" instead of "James", as these were the names as written in Latin.

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Note: Isabel died in the custody of Margaret de Beauchamp because of a prolonged feud over the estates of Thomas de Berkeley and Margaret de Lisle. The feud ended 20 March 1469/70 with the Battle of Nibley Green in which James de Berkeley & Isabel de Mowbray's eldest son William 1st/last Marquess de Berkeley killed Margaret de Beauchamp & John Talbot's grandson Sir Thomas Talbot, 2nd/last Viscount Lisle. See notes under James de Berkeley & William de Berkeley.

Lady Isabelle Berkeley (de Mowbray) MP
Gender:Female
Birth:circa 1396 Epworth, North Lincolnshire, England
Death:September 29, 1452 (52-60)
Berkeley Castle, Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England
Place of Burial:Greyfriars, Gloucester, Gloucestershire, England

Immediate Family:
Daughter of Thomas de Mowbray, 1st Duke of Norfolk and Elizabeth FitzAlan, Duchess of Norfolk

Wife of James de Berkeley "The Just", 1st Baron Berkeley and Henry Ferrers - 6th Baron Ferrers of Groby
In about 1424, James was wed to Lady Isabel de Mowbray (b. 1396 - d. 29 November 1452), in which James was her second husband and Henry Ferrers was her first. They had the following issue:
Elizabeth de Berkeley (b. 1425 - d. 1482)
Sir William de Berkeley, Earl of Nottingham (c. 1427 - 1492); William became the 2nd Baron Berkeley sometime after his father's death in 1463.
James de Berkeley, Esquire (b. 1429)
Alice de Berkeley (b. 1432)
Sir Maurice de Berkeley VI, Lord Berkeley (c. 1435 - 1 September 1506), who was married to Isabel Meade, daughter of merchant Phillip Meade and his wife Isabel, in 1465 and had issue.
Thomas de Berkeley, Esquire (b. 1435 - d. 1484)
Isabel de Berkeley (b. 1438 - d. 1482)

Mother of Alice Arthur (de Berkley); Elizabeth de Berkeley; Sir William de Berkeley, 7th Lord Berkeley; James de Berkeley, Lord; Isabel Berkeley and 6 others

Sister of Thomas de Mowbray, 4th Earl of Norfolk; John de Mowbray, 2nd Duke of Norfolk; Elizabeth Catherine Pole Beaumont (Mowbray) and Lady Margaret de Mowbray
Half sister of Elizabeth Hardwick, Duchess of Norfolk; Joan Goushill, Baroness of Stanley and Joyce Goushill

Isabel was arrested by order of Margaret, the Countess of Shrewsbury, the granddaughter and co-heiress of the last Lord Berkeley, and the wife of the Earl of Shrewsbury, the son-in-law of the James' cousin, Elizabeth, who was forced to concede Berkeley Castle to James after a feud between James and Elizabeth, Countess of Warwick, daughter of the fifth Baron Berkeley and the wife of Richard de Beauchamp, 13th Earl of Warwick. Isabel was imprisoned at Gloucester Castle and died there 27 Sept 1452.

Isabel married Henry FERRERS, Of Groby, Sir before 13 Jul 1416 in 1st Husband. Henry was born about 1394 in Groby Old Hall, Leicestershire, England; died before 1423. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Isabel married James "The Just" 1St Baron De BERKELEY, Sir between 1423 and 1424 in 2ND Husband 3Rd Wife. James was born about 1394 in Raglan, Monmouthshire, Wales; died in Nov 1463 in Berkeley Castle, Thornbury, Gloucestershire, England; was buried in St Mary's Berkeley, Gloucestershire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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He [Michael de la Pole] married, before 24 November 1403, Elizabeth, 3rd daughter of Thomas (MOWBRAY), DUKE OF NORFOLK, by his 2nd wife, Elizabeth, daughter of Richard (FITZALAN), EARL OF ARUNDEL. He died s.p.m., 25 October 1415, being slain at the battle of Agincourt, and is said to have been buried at Ewelme, Oxon. His widow took the veil at Bruisyard, Suffolk, before 17 January 1419/20, and was living, 1 December 1423. [Complete Peerage XII/1:442-3, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Elizabeth married Michael De LA POLE, 3rd Earl Of Suffolk before 24 Nov 1403. Michael (son of Michael De LA POLE, 2nd Earl Of Suffolk and Katherine De STAFFORD) was born about 1394 in Cotton, Suffolk, England; died on 25 Oct 1415 in Battle Of Agincourt, Artois/Pas-DE-Calais, France (Dspm). [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

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SIR JOHN GRAY or GREY, younger son of Sir Thomas GRAY, of Heton and Wark-on-Tweed, Northumberland (who d. 26 November or 3 December 1400) (c), by Joan, his wife (who was living 30 November 1402). He was born after 1384. On 29 June 1404 he and Richard de Ledes, who had challenged two Scots to six courses on horseback , with lances, had licence to fulfil their challenges at Carlisle before the King's brother, Ralph, Earl of Westmorland, or before John, son of that Earl. On 14 August 1409 he was granted, for his good services to the King and the Prince of Wales, 40 marks a year, for life, from the issues of Northumberland. On 8 August 1415 the King granted him all the lands held in fee simple which his eldest brother, Thomas Grey of Heton chr., deceased, had forfeited, and the keeping of the lands which the said Thomas had held in fee tail. He fought at the battle of Agincourt, 25 October 1415. He accompanied the King to France in July 1417. On 31 October 1417 he was appointed Captain of the castle and town of Mortagne, during pleasure. On 24 November following the King gave him the castle and lordship of Tilly in Normandy, late of Philip Harecourt chr., to hold in tail male. Nominated K.G. about 1418/9. On 31 January 1418/9 he was granted the comte' of Tancarville, in tail male, to hold by homage, rendering yearly a basinet at the castle of Rouen.

He married Joan, elder daughter and coheir of Sir Edward CHERLETON, of POWiS, co. Montgomery (LORD CHERLETON], by his 1st wife, Alianore, sister and coheir of Edmund, EARL OF KENT, and eldest daughter of Thomas (DE HOLAND), EARL OF KENT. He was killed at the battle of Baug? in Anjou, 22 March 1420/1. On 20 July 1422 his widow had ivery of her purparty of her father's lands. She died 17 September 1425. [Complete Peerage VI:136-8, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

(c) He d. Thursday before, or Tuesday after, St. Andrew 2 Henry IV, according to the inquisitions taken in Northumberland and at Newcastle-on-Tyne, respectively. In 1398 he obtained the castle, manor, and lordship of Wark-on-Tweed from Ralph, Earl of Westmorland, in exchange for other manors. He, who was aged 10 in 1369, was son and heir of Sir Thomas Grey, of Heton (author of the "Scalacronica"), by Margaret, daughter and heir of William de Pressene, of Presson, Northumberland. The last-named Thomas, who d. shortly bef. Monday after St. Luke (22 Oct] 1369, had done homage to the Bishop of Durham, and had livery of the manor of Heton 10 Apr 1344. He was son and heir of Sir Thomas de Grey, of Heton in Islandshire, who d. shortly bef. 12 Mar 1343/4, by Agnes, his wife.

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Joan Cherleton; m. Sir John Grey (or Gray), KG, created Earl of Tankerville in Normandy, b. aft. 1384, d. 22 Mar 1420/1, son of Sir Thomas Gray, d. 1400, of Heton & Wark-on-Tweed, co. Northumberland, by his wife Joan. [Ancestral Roots]

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The following post to SGM, 17 May 2003, by Adrian Channing, explains where Heaton Castle was:

From: [email protected] ([email protected])
Subject: Re: Grays of Heton, Northumberland
Newsgroups: soc.genealogy.medieval
Date: 2003-05-17 05:12:15 PST

There are two Warks in Northumberland (in addition to Warkworth), both had castles. Heaton Castle was a few miles north east of Wark on Tweed, and a little SE of Twisel. In 1415 it belonged to Sir Thomas Gray (one tower was a large carving of a lion rampant, the emblem of the Hetons and the Greys). The site is now a farmstead. Heton/Heaton is said to be ghosted. Close by is the ruins of Etal Castle.

As for the Castle of Wark upon Tweed, I beleive I have preveiously posted details and should be in the archives. Cornhill (which, in 1541 had a tower) is between Heton and this Wark. The other Wark is on the Tyne.

Adrian

Family/Spouse: Joan CHERLETON. Joan was born about 1400 in Upper Powys, Montgomeryshire, Wales; died on 17 Sep 1425. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events:

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Notes:

Maud Grey, living 22 Aug 1451; m. c 21 May 1399, Sir Robert Ogle, Knight, b. 1369/73, d. 12 Aug 1436, warden of Roxborough Castle. [Ancestral Roots]

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He [Robert de Ogle] married, on or before 21 May 1399, Maud, daughter of Thomas GREY, lord of Wark. He died 12 or 13 August 1436. His widow was living 22 August 1451. [Complete Peerage X:28-9, (transcribed by Dave Utzinger)]

Maud married Robert De OGLE, Sir Knight before 21 May 1399. Robert was born between 1379 and 1383 in Ogle, Castle Ward, Northumberland, England; died on 12 Aug 1436. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]