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1190 - Aft 1254 (65 years)
Generation: 1
1. | Agnes DE LONGVILLERS was born in 1190 in Farnley, Yorkshire, England; died after 1254 in England. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: LC2B-8D1
Family/Spouse: Alan PENNINGTON. Alan was born about 1172 in Pennington, Lancashire, England; died in 1234 in Pennington, Lancashire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 2. Alicea PENNINGTON was born in 1212 in Pennington, Lancashire, England; died in 1306 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England.
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Generation: 2
2. | Alicea PENNINGTON (1.Agnes1) was born in 1212 in Pennington, Lancashire, England; died in 1306 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: LDSR-PFC
- Name: Alice PENNINGTON
Notes:
Alice de PENNINGTON 1, 2 was born in Pennington, Lancashire, England, daughter of Alan de Peninton of Peninton Hall. She married Sir Roger de VENABLES Baron of Kinderton in Kinderton, Cheshire, England.
They had the following children:
Sir William de VENABLES Baron of Kinderton was born 1218 and died 1292. Married 1) unknown 2) Margaret Dutton
Amy de VENABLES 1 was born 1221 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England. Married Hugh de Hatton
Roger de VENABLES 1 was born 1224 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England. Parson of Rosthorne
Rose Venables born in Kinderton, Cheshire, England; married Alexander De Bramville.
citations
713.George Ormerod, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester, Second Edition, Revised and Enlarged by Thomas Helsby, Published in 1882, London, England, by George Routledge and Sons, Volumes I-III "Alice married Roger de Venables Baron of Kinderton, son of Hugh de Venables Baron of Kinderton and Agnes de Oxton, about 1240 in England."
Refs
Visitations of Cheshire-Toll site
Ormerod's Hist. Ches
Links
http://cybergata.com/roots/5228.htm
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=johanson&id=I3696
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~hwbradley/aqwg1190.htm#21422
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=aet%2Dt&id=I54260
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Alice de Pennington's Timeline
1212
1212
Birth of Alice
Peninton, Cheshire, England
1225
1225
Age 13
Birth of Roese de Venables
Kinderton Cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England
1235
1235
Age 23
Birth of Sir William de Venables, Baron of Kinderton
Kinderton Cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England
1240
1240
Age 28
Birth of Margaret Venables
Kinderton,,Cheshire,England
1250
1250
Age 38
Birth of Roger de Venables
Kinderton, Cheshire, England
1251
1251
Age 39
Birth of Amy de Venables
Kinderton Cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England
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Death of Alice at Kinderton, Cheshire, England
Kinderton, Cheshire, England
Alicea married Roger DE VENABLES, Baron of Kinderton about 1230 in Pennington, Lancashire, England. Roger (son of Hugh DE VENABLES, Baron of Kinderton and Alice OXTON) was born in 1211 in Kinderton Cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died on 29 Sep 1260 in Kinderton Cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 3. Amy VENABLES was born in 1231 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England; died in 1327 in Alvanley, Cheshire, England.
- 4. Sir William DE VENABLES, 6th Baron of Kinderton was born in 1233 in Kinderton-cum-Hulme, Northwich, Vale Royal, Cheshire, North West, England; died on 12 Jul 1292 in Kinderton-Cum-Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England; was buried in Jul 1292 in Kinderton-Cum-Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England.
- 5. Margaret VENABLES was born about 1240 in Of Kinderton, Cheshire, England; died in 1282 in Cheshire, England.
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Generation: 3
3. | Amy VENABLES (2.Alicea2, 1.Agnes1) was born in 1231 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England; died in 1327 in Alvanley, Cheshire, England. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: G8LX-QSC
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4. | Sir William DE VENABLES, 6th Baron of Kinderton (2.Alicea2, 1.Agnes1) was born in 1233 in Kinderton-cum-Hulme, Northwich, Vale Royal, Cheshire, North West, England; died on 12 Jul 1292 in Kinderton-Cum-Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England; was buried in Jul 1292 in Kinderton-Cum-Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: KZJ9-9VD
- Title: ; Sir Knight
- TitleOfNobility: ; Baron
- Occupation: ; 6th Baron of Kinderton
Notes:
Venables Family and Personal Papers
http://catalogue.cheshirearchives.org.uk/CalmView/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=DLT%2f11%2f3%2f5%2f7&pos=2
46. William son and heir of Roger de Venables granted to Hugh son and heir of William de Venables half the vill of Bradwall for life, for a pair of white gloves.
49. William de Venables lord of Kinderton granted to William his son, all the land which he had of the gift of Elizabeth in Routhestorne Tatton and Haselhurst.
50. William de Venables son and heir of Roger de Venables, confirmed the gift which Hugh de Venables made to Roger his son, of the fourth part of Hope.
52. William de Venables of Kinderton gave to William, his son, all his land in the vill of Bradwall, except that approved from the waste.
82. William son of William Venables of Bradwall granted to John de Leigh all his lands which he had of the gift of his father. Witnessed by Peter de Warburton, William de Bagglegh, knights, William de Modburlegh, Robert de Masci of Tatton, Hamo de Asheley.
1319
And much more...
From
Sir Peter Leycester's 'Pedigrees of Cheshire Families', 1666, Cheshire Records Office
http://catalogue.cheshirearchives.org.uk/CalmView/Record.aspx?src=CalmView.Catalog&id=DLT%2f11%2f3%2f5
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Sir William de Venables, knight and baron of Kinderton son of Roger, mentioned 1267 and died 1292.
1st wife unknown. They had a daughter Cecily who married Adam the clerk of Allehulme near Brereton.
Ormerod volume 3 page 198
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Sir William de VENABLES Baron of Kinderton was born 1218 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England. He died 1292 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England. He was the son of Roger de Venables & Alice Pennington.
He married Margaret de DUTTON on 1245 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England. Margaret de DUTTON was born 1227 in Dutton, Cheshire, England. She was the daughter of Thomas Dutton & Phillipa de Sandon.
They had the following children:
1. Sir Hugh de VENABLES Baron of Kinderton was born 1246 and died 1311. Married Agatha de Vernon
2. Sir William de VENABLES Knight was born 1248 and died 1301. Married Agnes de Legh.
3. Elizabeth de VENABLES was born 1254. Married Richard Donne.
Children also seen in this generation:
Cecilia de Venables b: ABT 1276 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England.
Catherine de Venables b: ABT 1272 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England
Notes
His name appears on several deeds, the first of which bears the date of 1267. He restored to the monks of Chester the advowson of Ashbury, of which his father had despoiled them.
(Ormerod) Sir William de Venables.
Sources:
1. Ormerod, George, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester (London: Lackington, Hughes, Mavor & Jones, 1819.), 1:499, 644, Family History Library, 942.71 H2or.
2. Ormerod, G., History of the County Palatine of Chester, 3:199.
Links
http://www.multiwords.de/genealogy/Ve20%20Joan%20Venables.html
http://www.celtic-casimir.com/webtree/16/35895.htm
http://cybergata.com/roots/5225.htm
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=johanson&id=I36154
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Sir William de Venables, Baron of Kinderton's Timeline
1235
Birth of William, Kinderton Cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England
1256
Age 21, Birth of Hugh de Venables, 8th Baron Kinderton, Kinderton Cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England
1257
Age 22, Birth of Sir William Venables, of Bradwall, Kinderton Cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England
1265
Age 30, Birth of Elizabeth Done, Kinderton, Cheshire, England
1276
Age 41, Birth of Cecilia de Venables, Kinderton, Cheshire, England
July 12, 1291
Age 56
Death of William, Kinderton Cum Hulm. Northwick, Cheshire, England
William married Lady Margaret DE DUTTON in 1253 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England. Margaret (daughter of Thomas DUTTON, 7th Lord of Dutton and Lady Philippa STANDON) was born in 1235 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England; died in 1293 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 6. Catharine DE VENABLES was born about 1254 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England; and died.
- 7. Margaret DE VENABLES was born in 1255 in Bollin, Cheshire, England; and died.
- 8. Hugh DE VENABLES, of Kinderton was born in 1256 in Northwich, Cheshire, England; died on 25 Apr 1311 in Kinderton cum Hulme, Cheshire, England.
- 9. Cecilia DE VENABLES was born about 1256 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England; died in 1274 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England.
- 10. Elizabeth DE VENABLES was born in 1257 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England; died in 1289; was buried in Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom.
- 11. William DE VENABLES was born about 1258 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England; was christened in in Kinderton, Cheshire, England; died before 1313 in Bradwell, Cheshire, England.
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5. | Margaret VENABLES (2.Alicea2, 1.Agnes1) was born about 1240 in Of Kinderton, Cheshire, England; died in 1282 in Cheshire, England. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: GF61-W67
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Generation: 4
8. | Hugh DE VENABLES, of Kinderton (4.William3, 2.Alicea2, 1.Agnes1) was born in 1256 in Northwich, Cheshire, England; died on 25 Apr 1311 in Kinderton cum Hulme, Cheshire, England. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: 9Z4P-J9S
- Title (Nobility): ; 8th Baron of Kinderton
- TitleOfNobility: ; Sir
- Occupation: ; Sheriff of Cheshire
Notes:
Sir Hugh de Venables, baron of Kinderton, died 4 Edw II (1310/11). Married Agatha, dau of Ralph Vernon, baron of Shipbrook, 23 Edw 1. In addition to their two eldest sons William and Hugh the younger, this couple also had Reginald, Roger, John, and daughters Ellen, wife of John son of Sir John Arderne, 1307; Isabel, wife of David Egerton; Elizabeth wife of Richard Done of Utkinton.
Ormerod volume 3 page 198
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Sir Hugh de VENABLES, 8th Baron Venables of Kinderton, was born 1246 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England. He died 1311 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England.
Parents: William De Venables, 5? B. Venables of Kinderton, and Margaret De Dutton
Married
in 1293 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England to Agatha De VERNON. Born: ABT 1280. She was the daughter of Ralph De VERNON (B. Vernon of Shipbrook) & Mary DACRE
Children include
Alice de VENABLES was born 1296 and died 1327.
Sir Hugh de VENABLES, 7th Baron Venables of Kinderton, born 1298 and died 1368. He married Catherine De Houghton.
notes
Sir Hugh de Venables, Knight, Baron of Kinderton, son and heir of William, died 4 Edward III, married Agatha, daughter of Sir Ralph de Vernon, baron of Shipbrook, 23 Edward I.
Ormerod: The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester Vol III pp. 47, 51, 133
(regnal year calculation: 23 Edward l = 1294/5; 4 Edward lll = 1330/1)
Sources:
Weis, Frederick Lewis, Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists Who Came to America before 1700 (7th ed., Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1992.), pp. 230-32.
Brown, Henrietta Margaret Brady, Some Venables of England and America (Cincinnati, Ohio: Kinderton Press, 1961.)
Ormerod, George, The History of the County Palatine and City of Chester (London: Lackington, Hughes, Mavor & Jones, 1819.), 3:252, Family History Library, 942.71 H2or.
Weis, Frederick Lewis, The Magna Charta Sureties, 1215 (5th ed., Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1999.), pp. 130-7, Los Angeles Public Library, 929.273 W426 1999.
Ormerod, G., History of the County Palatine of Chester, 2:85, 3:199.
Richards, W. S. G., The History of the De Traffords of Trafford, circa A.D., 1000-1893 (Plymouth, England: W. H. Luke, 1896. FHL US/CAN Film #823,879 Item 1.), p. 28, Family History Library.
Boyer, Carl, Medieval English Ancestors of Robert Abell (Santa Clarita, California: C. Boyer, 2001.), p. 5, Los Angeles Public Library, 929.2 A141-2.
medieval Cheshire
An important natural resource of Cheshire was salt: Below the surface of the county lie large deposits of saline rock, the presence of which may well have been known to the Romans. . . In the Middle Ages, the salt producing towns were called, collectively, the Wiches, ? Nantwich, Middlewich, Northwich. Medieval Cheshire, Large areas of salt lands were owned by abbeys and clerics, but Lay owners of salt houses, where salt pans filled with salt water were boiled, were even more numerous and diverse in status. . . . Among the proprietors of salt houses, land, or messuages in the Wiches were Venables ... [and many other Cheshire families].
Links
http://www.multiwords.de/genealogy/Ve20%20Joan%20Venables.html
http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/VERNON.htm
http://www.wallace-venable.name/Venable_Genealogy/Some_Venables_of_England_and_America.pdf
http://cybergata.com/roots/5224.htm
http://www.ukbmd.org.uk/genuki/chs/kindertoncumhulme.html
Kinderton cum Hulme was a township in Middlewich ancient parish, Northwich hundred, which became a civil parish in 1866. The civil parish was abolished in 1894 to become parts of Middlewich and Kinderton.
Hugh married Agatha DE VERNON in 1295 in Cheshire, England. Agatha (daughter of Ralph DE VERNON and Mary DACRE) was born about 1270 in Shipbrook, Northwich, Cheshire, England; died in 1350 in Kinderton Cum Hulme, Northwich, Cheshire, England. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]
Children:
- 12. Hugh DE VENABLES was born in 1296 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England; died on 22 Oct 1368 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England; was buried in Kinderton, Cheshire, England.
- 13. William DE VENABLES was born in 1296 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England; died in 1312 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England.
- 14. Alice DE VENABLES was born on 8 Jan 1299 in Alvanley, Cheshire, England, United Kingdom; died in 1328 in Aldford, Cheshire, England; was buried in 1328 in Aldford, Cheshire, England.
- 15. Reginald DE VENABLES was born about 1300 in England; and died.
- 16. Elizabeth DE VENABLES was born about 1302 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England; died in 1348 in England.
- 17. Roger DE VENABLES was born about 1304 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England; died about 1336 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England.
- 18. John DE VENABLES was born about 1309 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England; died after 1336.
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9. | Cecilia DE VENABLES (4.William3, 2.Alicea2, 1.Agnes1) was born about 1256 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England; died in 1274 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: LHNQ-LGV
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10. | Elizabeth DE VENABLES (4.William3, 2.Alicea2, 1.Agnes1) was born in 1257 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England; died in 1289; was buried in Staffordshire, England, United Kingdom. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: L29B-Q1V
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11. | William DE VENABLES (4.William3, 2.Alicea2, 1.Agnes1) was born about 1258 in Kinderton, Cheshire, England; was christened in in Kinderton, Cheshire, England; died before 1313 in Bradwell, Cheshire, England. Other Events:
- FamilySearch ID: LZNL-CJ4
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